Jump to content
citykid09

East River - KBR Site Puchased by Midway

Recommended Posts

hahaha, no worries, I just thought the response was appropriately funny :)

Edited by samagon
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/2/2017 at 8:33 PM, AnTonY said:

I'm not sure why people have a problem with palm trees being planted. While SE/coastal areas of the metro feature the most optimal growing climate (and with the largest varieties of species), everywhere in the Houston has a climate warm enough to support the planting of many types of palms.

 

There are two native palm varieties specifically to the Houston area (sabal minor and sabal brazoria), but even if there weren't, it doesn't matter, since many palms have been shown to do well in Houston's climate, from dates to washingtonias to sabals. No palm is native to coastal California, doesn't stop places like LA from planting loads of them.

 

It really doesn't matter if a plant is native or not; if it can grow well, then there is no problem using it. Crape myrtles aren't native to the US, yet they grow just fine in Houston, and no one throws a fit at their presence.

 

They just don't provide much shade in a city that needs shade along sidewalks. 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
36 minutes ago, Texasota said:

Exactly. Shade trees make a huge difference here.

Which makes it even more perplexing that the City routinely allows developers to hack down mature sidewalk shade trees with a 20' canopy for darn near every urban construction project.  "Oh, don't worry, a new 5' tree with a 3' spread will be planted in its place......".   

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, kdog08 said:

 

They just don't provide much shade in a city that needs shade along sidewalks. 

In Houston we can grow a decent variety of palm trees from Pindos, Queens, to several varieties of fan palms some more cold hardy than others. They are beautiful and give a feeling of the tropics. For shade purposes I would think deciduous trees are better. They leaf up during the hot season and un-leaf during winter ( as brief as ours is)  allowing sunlight through. The crepe myrtle if turned into a "tree shape"  would look beautiful in our area. If is shade is what one wants can't beat the live oak or the magnolias that grow around here. Either way shading our streets and sidewalks would make the city a more pleasant place.

Edited by Twinsanity02
grammar error
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said:

Which makes it even more perplexing that the City routinely allows developers to hack down mature sidewalk shade trees with a 20' canopy for darn near every urban construction project.  "Oh, don't worry, a new 5' tree with a 3' spread will be planted in its place......".   

 

Pretty sure the city actually does not allow that.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The city has an ordinance on file that does indeed not allow that.

 

However, there appear to be quite a few variances approved for this ordinance.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 hours ago, samagon said:

The city has an ordinance on file that does indeed not allow that.

 

However, there appear to be quite a few variances approved for this ordinance.

Bingo.

 

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah some new  town homes right near me just chopped down 4 mature oak trees so the ordinance is not very effective. 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 4/7/2017 at 7:22 PM, jmitch94 said:

Yeah some new  town homes right near me just chopped down 4 mature oak trees so the ordinance is not very effective. 

 

Report it to the city

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
25 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

 

Report it to the city

The ordinance doesn't apply to trees on private property. Only trees on the City right of way. If the removed trees were on a lot, the City doesn't have any control .

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Ross said:

The ordinance doesn't apply to trees on private property. Only trees on the City right of way. If the removed trees were on a lot, the City doesn't have any control .

They lined the street so I don't know. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 4/5/2017 at 5:46 PM, kdog08 said:

 

They just don't provide much shade in a city that needs shade along sidewalks. 

That's only a problem if they are the only type of landscaping being used. But in most cases, various types of broad leaf trees are planted with the palms, so the shade requirement is never neglected.

 

The sidewalks aren't even where I would favor as a place for palms; they look best when they spread (en-mass) across green-belts and parks, like in the photo below. Hermann Park seems like an ideal place for it:

Prado in Montevideo

BotanicGardenPrado.jpg

https://www.cruisebe.com/parque-prado-montevideo-uruguay

.

On 4/6/2017 at 7:59 AM, Twinsanity02 said:

In Houston we can grow a decent variety of palm trees from Pindos, Queens, to several varieties of fan palms some more cold hardy than others. They are beautiful and give a feeling of the tropics. For shade purposes I would think deciduous trees are better. They leaf up during the hot season and un-leaf during winter ( as brief as ours is)  allowing sunlight through. The crepe myrtle if turned into a "tree shape"  would look beautiful in our area. If is shade is what one wants can't beat the live oak or the magnolias that grow around here. Either way shading our streets and sidewalks would make the city a more pleasant place.

The problem with deciduous trees is that they can make a landscape look quite dull when they have gone bare. But, I can accept certain varieties of subtropical/tropical origin, like the crepe myrtles, or the bald cypress. Luckily, many far ranging varieties in the US become more "semi-evergreen" in warmer climates like the South.

Edited by AnTonY
  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, AnTonY said:

That's only a problem if they are the only type of landscaping being used. But in most cases, various types of broad leaf trees are planted with the palms, so the shade requirement is never neglected.

 

 

Well yes obviously as I was referring to just palm trees

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, kdog08 said:

 

Well yes obviously as I was referring to just palm trees

I understand your viewpoint, I just showed why the requirements aren't necessarily neglected.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, AnTonY said:

I understand your viewpoint, I just showed why the requirements aren't necessarily neglected.

 

Fair enough. Highland Village on Westheimer is a place that actually gets some foot traffic that is lined with just palm trees. Just never understood that type of streetscape. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, kdog08 said:

 

Fair enough. Highland Village on Westheimer is a place that actually gets some foot traffic that is lined with just palm trees. Just never understood that type of streetscape. 

It's just the palm-boulevard type of landscaping. It's quite tacky when the palms are just by themselves, without any trees (or even shrubs) in the mix, and also when they are used on the sidewalks. Medians serve as better areas to line with palms.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, AnTonY said:

It's just the palm-boulevard type of landscaping. It's quite tacky when the palms are just by themselves, without any trees (or even shrubs) in the mix, and also when they are used on the sidewalks. Medians serve as better areas to line with palms.

 

 

Maybe look glamorous, don't require much water, can grow surrounded by concrete without lifting it up, are ever-green, create focal points and don't litter a parking lot with 4 tons of leaves annually? 

 

How can a tree be tacky lol? 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 4/10/2017 at 6:38 AM, iah77 said:

 

 

Maybe look glamorous, don't require much water, can grow surrounded by concrete without lifting it up, are ever-green, create focal points and don't litter a parking lot with 4 tons of leaves annually? 

 

How can a tree be tacky lol? 

If you'd have just read previous pages of this thread (or even just scrolled further up), you'd have seen that you are quoting someone who clearly supports the use of palms in landscaping, even reviving the thread just to defend their use:

Anyways, "tacky" was clearly in reference to the style of planting, not to the palms themselves. I support palms in landscaping, I just feel that their presentation is better as components of a sort of "vegetation wall," well blended with trees, shrubs, and flora that are evergreen (bolded because I dislike deciduous trees, my problems with them going beyond just annual mass leaf-litter issues), rather then just them lining streets by themselves. Basically, something like Gulf Freeway:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7403574,-95.354988,3a,37.5y,177.3h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC9aVuu94Gr4wwB5Y_8eGsg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

And as I said in another previous post, I also feel green-belts, parks, etc (and even medians) are better areas than sidewalks for en-masse plantings of palms:

 

Edited by AnTonY
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They mowed the bulldozer scraped two blocks here at the corner of Jensen and Sydnor last week.  Not sure what exactly it indicates. But, it's the first heavy equipment spotted on the site since the soil remediation completed in 2013. Also, CenterPoint re-ran all the power lines and replaced all the power poles around the site recently. Not sure if that means anything either. 

One more interesting thing is that I cannot figure out... A residential trailer was placed in the middle of the property and someone is living in it. It's not a construction office either. Someone with their dog lives in it. Very curious. I figure it has something to do with tax status. There appears to be no other function. Anyone know what that could be about? 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Naviguessor said:

They mowed the bulldozer scraped two blocks here at the corner of Jensen and Sydnor last week.  Not sure what exactly it indicates. But, it's the first heavy equipment spotted on the site since the soil remediation completed in 2013. Also, CenterPoint re-ran all the power lines and replaced all the power poles around the site recently. Not sure if that means anything either. 

One more interesting thing is that I cannot figure out... A residential trailer was placed in the middle of the property and someone is living in it. It's not a construction office either. Someone with their dog lives in it. Very curious. I figure it has something to do with tax status. There appears to be no other function. Anyone know what that could be about? 

Maybe it's this Special Districts

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A couple interesting observations at the KBR site. 

1.  So, mid size trees are being planted in a grove like fashion in the lots which were previously scraped. I've speculated that these have been removed from Midway's HEB/Washington Project and are just being stored here. I doubt the intent is to reforest the site. 

2.  Many of the larger weeds and wild flower areas along Bayou St, within the KBR's boundaries, have been marked with small landscape flags. Obviously this is so landscapers don't mow them down.  It's nice, but I'm not sure why. Not much traffic here, except dog walkers, sleeping cops, cyclist who know how to get to the bayou trail and the people that live in the mystery trailer. 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Media Kit from Midway. 

 

eastriverHTX.com

 

Broad in concept. Short on details. 

 

Info on the Transplanted Trees.  They are coming from the Post Oak, rework. 

  • Like 9

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2017/08/07/midway-ceo-shares-updates-on-east-river-project.html

 

East River will be developed in phases, Brinsden said. Phase I will include retail, entertainment, office, multifamily, single-family homes and potentially a grocery component. It'll sit on the east side of the property, and future phases will work their way westward.

 

The East River's future phases will work westward as TxDOT's planned highway improvements are completed. Brinsden said Midway's done a complete master-plan on the project and is in the midst of designing Phase I.

"The idea is that each phase could be its own fully, self-contained mixed-use project," Brinsden said. "We’ll work our way through it over time."

 

 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm surprised that they would develop the east side first. Maybe they have potential anchor tenants. If so, that would allow for the development of land around the company. Over the next 5 years, there will be an additional 400 homes to the existing 400 new homes in the area. They will need to coordinate around the TXDOT project becuase people wont visit if there is a giant traffic jam right in the middle of the project.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think it might be a good idea to have a light rail line branching out from the green line onto Hirsch Rd. To go through this developments. Make it accessible from downtown and vice versa

IMG_6063.PNG

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The original idea was to have a trolly system linking the east end and lower 5th ward circulating the bayou around Clinton and Navigation. Probably 20 years away from this though.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

×
×
  • Create New...