BigFootsSocks Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, Houston? said: So, Midway isn't going to do anything with this, since y'all talking about an amusement park? No, the amusement park is all speculation. The only facts here are; 1) Midway bought this land 2) It's not called Northbank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pragmatist Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Heh. Maybe they should just use the Hermann Park golf course for an amusement park. It's about 125 acres in a centralized location with great access to transit. Slightly more on topic, the good news for redevelopment of this lot is that Clinton Drive may be repaved to where it doesn't feel like a 4x4 Wrangler is a necessity. Edited July 12, 2016 by The Pragmatist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 9 hours ago, The Pragmatist said: Heh. Maybe they should just use the Hermann Park golf course for an amusement park. It's about 125 acres in a centralized location with great access to transit. Slightly more on topic, the good news for redevelopment of this lot is that Clinton Drive may be repaved to where it doesn't feel like a 4x4 Wrangler is a necessity. ha, and they don't even need to put in parking, cause there's so much around Hermann park! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Would you really need a tremendous number of parking spots with a location like Hermann? A drivers paradise like KBR would definitely need tons of lots, but Hermann does seem to manage lots of visitors by having more options via both cars and Public Transit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 The plan is to build an underground parking garage at Hermann Park either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Triton said: The plan is to build an underground parking garage at Hermann Park either way. About time. Is there anything publicly available with any details on that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lockmat said: About time. Is there anything publicly available with any details on that? 1,200 car underground parking garage. Master plan posted by Mab back in February. Edited July 13, 2016 by Triton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 page not found are they going to be turning all the surface parking into park with trees and grass and stuff? that will be awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 56 minutes ago, samagon said: page not found are they going to be turning all the surface parking into park with trees and grass and stuff? that will be awesome! http://houstonfirst.com/static/media/uploads/attachments/mot_master_plan_6.22.15_reduced.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 1 hour ago, samagon said: page not found are they going to be turning all the surface parking into park with trees and grass and stuff? that will be awesome! No, it looks like they might be adding even more surface parking, but also, the long term goal (2035) is to build an underground parking garage with trees and grass and stuff on top of it to provide more parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 1 hour ago, samagon said: page not found are they going to be turning all the surface parking into park with trees and grass and stuff? that will be awesome! Yea I posted that in the master plan thread.. was hoping Mab would respond but it looks like Beernut has us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted September 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2016 http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Midway-making-plans-for-transformative-project-9302558.php One of the city's most prominent developers on Wednesday will give investors a look at early plans for the former KBR site, a 147-acre tract with water and skyscraper views that could be transformative for the traditionally working-class East End. Midway executives, who gave the Chronicle an exclusive look at early concepts for the residential and commercial project, are presenting their proposal at the company's annual investor conference in a ballroom of a hotel on the grounds of CityCentre. The proposed development, to be called East River, could take 10 to 15 years to complete. It will be a joint venture between Midway and William Harrison of Cathexis. Harrison, a wealthy Houstonian with business in energy and real estate, bought the property in late 2012 from KBR, which used it as an office and industrial complex for decades. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 they're saying the right things with regards to how it should be developed - historical focus, multi-staged development, mixed income, focus on the bayou. i'd love to finally see something truly innovative for houston on this site. we don't need any highrises here, or at least no more than one or two, and if they do choose that route they better not be beige stucco boxes - they need character. drawing inspiration from dumbo and the meatpacking district is promising. also didn't know harrison stayed on board but that makes sense... he would've lost money on an outright sale and his plan was always long term. here's hoping for the best. midway was a real opportunity to develop a transformative project here. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTT Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 What part of economic downturn does no one understand? The developer is actually quoted comparing the site to New York City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, BTT said: What part of economic downturn does no one understand? The developer is actually quoted comparing the site to New York City. 10-15 years. River Oaks District was in planning since around 2003. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post swtsig Posted September 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2016 31 minutes ago, BTT said: What part of economic downturn does no one understand? The developer is actually quoted comparing the site to New York City. what part of long term, multi-phase development do you not understand? or preliminary stage? or anything else in that entire article? move along. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 31 minutes ago, BTT said: What part of economic downturn does no one understand? The developer is actually quoted comparing the site to New York City. That's a short term issue. Larger projects such as these usually require long term planning and take many years to unfold. Not too concerned. Besides, unless there's a global recession, chances are 2018 might be the year Houston truly rebounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTT Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, swtsig said: what part of long term, multi-phase development do you not understand? or preliminary stage? or anything else in that entire article? move along. What part of the costs to carry real estate do you not understand? Which part of historical amounts of office and multifamily vacancy and supply do you not get? I would guess your too daft to even understand how much of a failure (economically) City Center was when first developed. I would also guess you've never left Texas, nor do you understand the impact of land use regulation on the economics of commercial property in this city. If you believe in this development so much, get out there, start raising money and buy yourself some nice property in the area to benefit from all the value this $3-4 billion project will create. Or, don't and continue to blog away internet tough guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Money Posted September 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2016 I personally wouldn't question swtsigs knowledge in these matters... 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 @BTT what do you propose this site should be used for? Stating City Center was a failure early on carries little weight when it is repeatedly used as an example of mega successful mixed-use projects. Several people on this forum are in the industry, so be careful not to lose credibility early on. There is nothing controversial about this article. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The sigophants are out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 This guy sounds like a troll. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I like this new idea of swt not knowing what he's talking about. Let's explore it further; is swtsig really his name? Discuss. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 this property like many others around the downtown freeways (59 and Pierce Elevated) are all in a holding pattern waiting on txDOT to move forward on its downtown freeway circulation plan. This site is less affected than sites like the post office, but it will still play a major impact on the traffic studies and feasibility for different use cases. Like the article said, this is a fantastic property and we will see development happen. When that development comes to fruition is contingent on so many external factors that even the developers involved would be stupid to throw out delivery dates. Now all we need is for someone to sneak into Gensler's or HOK's office and find one of their site massing models for the site. You know an intern spent their summer on one...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, tangledwoods said: this property like many others around the downtown freeways (59 and Pierce Elevated) are all in a holding pattern waiting on txDOT to move forward on its downtown freeway circulation plan. This site is less affected than sites like the post office, but it will still play a major impact on the traffic studies and feasibility for different use cases. Like the article said, this is a fantastic property and we will see development happen. When that development comes to fruition is contingent on so many external factors that even the developers involved would be stupid to throw out delivery dates. Now all we need is for someone to sneak into Gensler's or HOK's office and find one of their site massing models for the site. You know an intern spent their summer on one...... This. 2017 is going to be a big year where we get a lot of news on these kinds of projects since next year is when they will supposedly have the alignment set and ready to bid and move forward. They did say that they were going to do the downtown section first and would start 2017 or 2018 if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Triton Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Thank God they didn't explain to us what "east" meant. I think they're concerned people are going to ask "Why use River instead of Bayou?" Think East River just sounds more marketable than East Bayou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 What is the arched roof structure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post swtsig Posted September 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2016 ^^^basketball court/gym. dick chaney's old office is surprisingly unremarkable save for the trap door in the antique book case leading to his sex dungeon. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Could be extremely interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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