Richmond Strip Dying On Richmond Ave.

[segovia]

Hello,

I was wondering why there are so many businesses closing their doors off Richmond. The closer you get to Hillcroft, the more of them you see. Is this related to crime or just lack of sustainable business?

Thank you.

[The Great Hizzy!]

More that the types of businesses that lined Richmond are moving to areas like Downtown, Midtown and Westchase. There's no real need for a Richmond Strip anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if you see a lot of these properties start changing over to garden style apartment developers or to more traditional strip centers that deal more in commercial goods than entertainment.

[bachanon]

it's interesting to see that the residential areas in close proximity to the richmond strip area could not sustain the businesses that were there. people were coming from the burbs to those establishments. now, people from the burbs come downtown/midtown.

[LTAWACS]

It was always overrated and there where also elements of the unwanted there.

[bachanon]

i went to the strip once and never returned. when restaurants like fat tuesdays couldn't survive, it was apparent that the money coming to the area was not being spent on food. it felt more dangerous than lower westheimer in the early eighties.

[MidtownCoog]

It was cheezy back during the Club 6400 days.

[segovia]

The Richmond strip area seems dominated by older apartment complexes. There are several thriving adult shops as well. During the day, it seems pretty normal but at night, it comes alive with folks cruising and clubbing. The upper Richmond area near the Galleria mall has a lot of new residential development. I just hope it continues down the strip. It would be a shame to see the area wither into a neighborhood pocket of crime, prostitution, and neglect.

[sevfiv]

i knew it was all downhill when they had to put up "no u-turn" signs

[LTAWACS]

It was cheezy back during the Club 6400 days.

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I remember when that place burned down. Malone - the radio guy at 104 - was practically in tears while reporting live from the scene.

[LTAWACS]

i knew it was all downhill when they had to put up "no u-turn" signs 

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:werd:

[westender]

I remember when that place burned down. Malone - the radio guy at 104 - was practically in tears while reporting live from the scene.

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That place burned down in 1989. malone wasn't around until 1992 or so. Plus 93Q was the staion that would broadcast out of that club. Say what you will about the club but it was anything but cheezy. Very few of the songs mixed there were played on radio stations. It helped propel the industrial dance movement and was a forbearer of modern house and trance. That club is known the world over dance-music wise.

[MidtownCoog]

Sheesh, all 6400 did was copy the real deal that started a few years before Power Tools and #s. Heck, you can even throw Cabaret Volatire (McKinney and Live Oak) into that category.

All 6400 did was take it mainstream.

I'll take Power Tools any day.

[sevfiv]

*cringes as technotronic blasts in the background*

[LTAWACS]

That place burned down in 1989. malone wasn't around until 1992 or so. Plus 93Q was the staion that would broadcast out of that club. Say what you will about the club but it was anything but cheezy. Very few of the songs mixed there were played on radio stations.  It helped propel the industrial dance movement and was a forbearer of modern house and trance.  That club is known the world over dance-music wise.

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You sure abuot the radio stations? I still have some of the tapes I would record from the broadcasts.

I remember the 93QZoo and the afternoon jock... I forget his name. And I think you're confusing the guy who would do the zoogerizations with the 104 character. Or perhaps I am wrong... Can anyone shed some light on this?

I never knew Houston's 2600 as THE forebearer in that genre of muzak. I do know there were various DJ's in Chicago that were instrumental in this. The Garage, Paradise Loft, and Heaven were some of the more innovative clubs in Chicago during this period. I should know. I used to hang out with 2 In A Room, DJ Laz, and others.

[LTAWACS]

*cringes as technotronic blasts in the background*

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Here... let me turn it up for ya...

[MidtownCoog]

I still have all these on 12" vinyl.

[bachanon]

we used to chase off richmond strip club types who wandered in to numbers and power tools. when we saw a pair of z cavarricci's we knew where they were from. we made "no z cavarricci" t-shirts to show our disdain. those were the days.

[sevfiv]

we used to chase off richmond strip club types who wandered in to numbers and power tools.  when we saw a pair of z cavarricci's we knew where they were from.  we made "no z cavarricci" t-shirts to show our disdain.  those were the days.

[sevfiv]

Here... let me turn it up for ya...

my ears shall bleedeth forever

[YakuzaIce]

my ears shall bleedeth forever 

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LOL

Who can't love that beautiful music!?!?

[Casual Observer]

vinyl is dead - go home grandpa..

[YakuzaIce]

It will live on forever muhuhahaha!!

But seriously yeah it is dead, granted I have alot of good old vinyls.

[MidtownCoog]

What about the "Red Square" club on Main? I think it's only on Wednesday, but they music is this type of classic.

Somebody posted about it recently.

Anyone been?

[MidtownCoog]

FWIW, all the music artists are releasing their new music on vinyl.

Green Day, Tori Amos, Beck, Madonna, Cher, you name it.

And these are 2005 albums.

You need to get our more, young one.

Black Dog Records, Soundwaves and Vinyl Edge have a TON of new LPs to choose from.

[sevfiv]

all we need now are in-dash LP players

[Casual Observer]

FWIW, all the music artists are releasing their new music on vinyl.

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Yes, but ask any aspiring DJ and he'll tell you vinyl is too expensive compared to digital. Add to the fact that Pioneer and Denon make cd players that can perfectly reproduce the imperfections and scratching of vinyl - records now only serve two purposes: nostalgia & taking up space.

The digital revolution is here. Melt all your vinyls into an iPod today.

[sevfiv]

vinyl (not to mention laserdiscs and the ever-beloved CED - if you break it out of its casing) make fantastic frisbees!

[Parrothead]

OMG this thread has brought back lots of memories! I used to love 6400, Xcess, Decadance, Red Square....those were the days....some of the best music in the world! My fave was Voyeux's "Houseman"!

[editor]

all we need now are in-dash LP players 

They used to have these. There was an LP model that went where the glove box is. There was a 45 version that went on the center console.

My mother told me that when my father was young, he was a hoodlum, and replaced the front grille of his car with speakers and would blast music in the old neighborhood.

Later in life his favorite album was Barbara Streisand singing in Spanish.

His taste in music changed, but it still left other people's ears bleeding.

[bachanon]

My fave was Voyeux's "Houseman"!

ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-HOUSEMAN!

etomipro is a file sharing software i stumbled across lately. now, i don't exactly approve of this type of file sharing; however, music that is out of print.....is another story. considering the direction of this thread i thought it necessary to let you whose ears still bleed, and those who would know groups/artists like nitzer ebb, gene loves jezebel, peter murphy, etc. that a search on etomipro for "razormaid" brings up hundreds of club mixes from that time. do not start this unless you have some time to kill. unfortunately, i discovered this treasure chest of 80's club music on a work night and had to rip myself away from my pc in the wee hours while still downloading 30 or 40 more songs.

the richmond strip is dead, but the music is forever!!!!

[sevfiv]

They used to have these.  There was an LP model that went where the glove box is.  There was a 45 version that went on the center console.

well, i think i've just been dated (and you too...heh)

His taste in music changed, but it still left other people's ears bleeding.

[westender]

You sure abuot the radio stations? I still have some of the tapes I would record from the broadcasts.

I remember the 93QZoo and the afternoon jock... I forget his name. And I think you're confusing the guy who would do the zoogerizations with the 104 character. Or perhaps I am wrong... Can anyone shed some light on this?

I never knew Houston's 2600 as THE forebearer in that genre of muzak. I do know there were various DJ's in Chicago that were instrumental in this. The Garage, Paradise Loft, and Heaven were some of the more innovative clubs in Chicago during this period. I should know. I used to hang out with 2 In A Room, DJ Laz, and others.

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The onnly thing I could find with Sam Malone's arrival year. Look toward the bottom of the page:

http://texasrighttolife.com/col04.htm

Only thing i found on the burn down date>

http://www.inthe80s.com/clubs2.shtml

And I meant that the music was a forebearer not the club. Sorry.

[RedScare]

You know, seeing a link to a list of bars full of drunks and wiggers next to a right to life website just gives me the heebies.

Loved the 80s bar list. My head hurt just seeing the names of all those joints I used to hang in. Some may disagree, but Houston's club peak may well have been that decade. There were so many outrageous places to go to. It certainly was Richmond strip's heyday.

[Casual Observer]

You know, seeing a link to a list of bars full of drunks and wiggers next to a right to life website just gives me the heebies.

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Gee.. what's a "wigger"?

..and you had the nerve to call me insensitive in another thread. I'll refrain from calling you a bigot - bigot. Oops.

[RedScare]

CO:

While I see where you are trying to go with this, I, unfortunately, am not playing along.

Although the current definition of "wigger" may refer to a suburban white kid trying to be a rap afficionado, I was refering to users of X, or other amphetamines, who were known to "wig" or "wig out", as used in this quote about another 80s Houston club:

"Rave on, this club had it all New Wave and used to get so packed, the cops would set up stings on Durham, so they could pull over all the cars that left that way. Everyone there used to wig out till it got shut down and then someone burned it down before it could reopen... "

I do have my prejudices, but they are not the ones you were hoping to nail me on.

[Casual Observer]

whew.. good save. For a minute there I thought you were talking about white - whoah.. better not.

[MidtownCoog]

Yep, whigger = X users. That's what we called them.

NRG was full of them.

Now Oreo, well, you get it.

[djrage]

I remember when that place burned down. Malone - the radio guy at 104 - was practically in tears while reporting live from the scene.

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Malone? Sam Malone? Couldn't have been him. He didn't arrive at KRBE until 92.

[djrage]

That place burned down in 1989. malone wasn't around until 1992 or so. Plus 93Q was the staion that would broadcast out of that club. Say what you will about the club but it was anything but cheezy. Very few of the songs mixed there were played on radio stations.  It helped propel the industrial dance movement and was a forbearer of modern house and trance.  That club is known the world over dance-music wise.

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In fact KRBE was the innovator of the live club broadcast from the Ocean Club in Jan of 88 but 93Q took it to next level with 6400 when it debuted May 29, 1988. It had a serious impact on the Houston nightclub scene for quite some time after. It still amazes me when I listen to my tapes and think that this stuff was actually on the radio once. Will we ever see days like that again? Oh I wish.....

Hey I'm looking for tapes of the Club 6400 broadcasts. If anyone has any please email me. Willing to do trades or whatever. Lets talk.

[MidtownCoog]

I think I have some 6400 tapes.

Let me dig.

Better yet, I know I have it all on vinyl.

[LTAWACS]

I think I have some 6400 tapes.

Let me dig.

Better yet, I know I have it all on vinyl.

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Me too. I have a bag full of tapes in my old room at my parents house. And I got vinyl too.

[Parrothead]

What sucks is, last year at this time 106.9 was playing all the old 6400 stuff on Saturday nights....but then something happened, either the DJ quit or the program manager changed or some wacky thing because now it's just pop crap from the 80's......seriously, I don't need to hear the remix of "True" by Spandeau Ballet... nor do I feel my musical repertoire need include Flock of Seagulls unless it is some of their B side stuff.....

[djrage]

Me too. I have a bag full of tapes in my old room at my parents house. And I got vinyl too.

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I have vinyl. I want the actual broadcasts of 6400. I have a few nights on tape but I'm looking to expand that collection. Can any of you burn them to CD for me?

What do you want in exchange?

[djrage]

What sucks is, last year at this time 106.9 was playing all the old 6400 stuff on Saturday nights....but then something happened, either the DJ quit or the program manager changed or some wacky thing because now it's just pop crap from the 80's......seriously, I don't need to hear the remix of "True" by Spandeau Ballet...  nor do I feel my musical repertoire need include Flock of Seagulls unless it is some of their B side stuff..... 

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What I miss on The Point is The Sunday Night Retro Revival Live from the Roxy. They played alot of the 6400 and NRG stuff. That show was awesome. Got lots of tape of that... on VHS.

[DJ V Lawrence]

What I miss on The Point is The Sunday Night Retro Revival Live from the Roxy. They played alot of the 6400 and NRG stuff. That show was awesome. Got lots of tape of that... on VHS.

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I miss the Beat on 104. Back in the day, they'd be blasting dance music for the whole city to hear until 6AM. Then Kiss 98.5, 100.7 House Party, and like, 3 other radio stations had their OWN live broadcasts sometime in that time period to compete. Are they still doing any live broadcasts on Saturday Night?

[djrage]

You sure abuot the radio stations? I still have some of the tapes I would record from the broadcasts.

I remember the 93QZoo and the afternoon jock... I forget his name. And I think you're confusing the guy who would do the zoogerizations with the 104 character. Or perhaps I am wrong... Can anyone shed some light on this?

I never knew Houston's 2600 as THE forebearer in that genre of muzak. I do know there were various DJ's in Chicago that were instrumental in this. The Garage, Paradise Loft, and Heaven were some of the more innovative clubs in Chicago during this period. I should know. I used to hang out with 2 In A Room, DJ Laz, and others.

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Hey can I get some copies of your 6400 tapes?

[djrage]

I miss the Beat on 104. Back in the day, they'd be blasting dance music for the whole city to hear until 6AM.  Then Kiss 98.5, 100.7 House Party, and like, 3 other radio stations had their OWN live broadcasts sometime in that time period to compete. Are they still doing any live broadcasts on Saturday Night?

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Yeah KRBE does the Surf Shack on Richmond and Kuykendal on Saturday nights. Its nothing like the old shows. It was all about new music. This is all mainstream.

[djrage]

Only thing i found on the burn down date>

http://www.inthe80s.com/clubs2.shtml

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Hey I wrote that!

[westender]

Hey rage have you checked out this website :

http://www.6400music.com/

[westender]

I miss the Beat on 104. Back in the day, they'd be blasting dance music for the whole city to hear until 6AM.  Then Kiss 98.5, 100.7 House Party, and like, 3 other radio stations had their OWN live broadcasts sometime in that time period to compete. Are they still doing any live broadcasts on Saturday Night?

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I remember 98.5. I used to think it was the greatest but like everything else it was bought by Clearchannel and subsequently went to pop hell just like all their other stations.