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Development replacing the Conoco at 602 Studewood St in The Heights

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I saw that Venture Commercial and Bryan Danna posted their real estate sign in front of the Conoco. These are the same developers of the former Burroughs property on the north side of White Oak (D'Amicos etc). HCAD Tax records still show the Burroughs trust as owners, but that data base is not current. Anybody hear anything about the site being in play?

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The property falls under the original Norhill Addition deed restrictions, but it is one of the originally designated commercial lots in Norhill Addition wherein the residential limitations did not apply. I do not know what commercial deed restrictions exist, if any, so a nice tall tower would really spark the forum!

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City records show transactions for two properties closed on April 11, 2012 from Burroughs Trust to 602 STWD LP (GP being NAV-Retail, LLC). The Conoco tract is 18,237 SF and the Ready Room tract is 9,768 both classified as commercial real estate. That is a nice chunk of land.

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Nope but a nice tall tower should just nicely here.

It would be environmentally conscious to recycle the Ashby Highrise Tower of Terror signs if a tower were to emerge.

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I think something similar in size to the development on 11th and studewood would fit nicely there. But really i just want a sushi or indian restaurant.

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Would there be MTBE contamination issues? I would guess that no one would be interested in keeping it as a gas station once Kroger opens up its gas station down the street. But with or without MTBE remediation costs, it will not be cheap to take out the gas tanks and get a clean bill of health from an enviro engineer. The other issue is that the Studewood side has that weird merge lane that cuts Studewood NB down from two lanes to one. Not a deal killer, but it would not be a feature that a fast food restaurant would want in front of its main driveway. I suspect it will be a while before someone takes a shot at redeveloping this parcel. There are other similarly sized parcels in the Heights that do not have as much baggage.

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Gas stations are repurposed routinely. Not only is it not a deal killer, it is not even a deal inhibitor. Given the limited number of parcels eligible for liquor permits (this site has had two), it won't be hard to turn that lot.

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Compared to the cost of the property and rebuilding, the tank removal or abandonment is cheap - about $5,000-$10,000 per location. Since 1998 all tanks in use had to meet modern standards which is why we saw many old stations close in the early 90's. No doubt the purchaser did his enviromental due-diligence in any case. However, these guys didn't lift a brick for two years after purchase of the D'Amicos tract, so don't expect any action soon.

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Gas stations are repurposed routinely. Not only is it not a deal killer, it is not even a deal inhibitor. Given the limited number of parcels eligible for liquor permits (this site has had two), it won't be hard to turn that lot.

How about a Heights version of Petrol, but with a real kitchen.

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I think something similar in size to the development on 11th and studewood would fit nicely there. But really i just want a sushi or indian restaurant.

Off topic but a lot of people don't know that Thai Spice on 19th has sushi. It's not a huge assortment, but it has always been fresh and it's BYOB.

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Off topic but a lot of people don't know that Thai Spice on 19th has sushi. It's not a huge assortment, but it has always been fresh and it's BYOB.

...as does (I think) Dragon Bowl on 11th.

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...as does (I think) Dragon Bowl on 11th.

and don't forget Kroger....heck, I think the Conoco serves sushi now ever since the WHCA wrote it into the deed restrictions as "compulsory fare" along with the no new garage apartments clause.

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but they aren't "sushi" places. Dragonbowl is consistantly subpar in all aspects. Thai spice has decent sushi, but i'd love a place where sushi is the focus. Maybe one of those chipotle style build your own hand rolls places.

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Gotta chime in on the lack of good sushi in the Heights. I've tried it a couple times at Thai Spice and was pretty underwhelmed. My pieces were very dry and tastewise, boring. The 11th Street Kroger rocks by comparison, which ain't saying much. It would be great to get an actual sushi place in the hood.

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Listen, people, I'm not saying I wouldn't love a great sushi restaurant in the Heights but if you want a couple simple rolls, there are places to go. Carry on.

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I would be happier to see a bagel place there, since there aren't any North of I-10.

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Let the Margarita wars begin! I hope it's a traditional Mexican cantina in keeping with the historical knife and gun play at that location. Plus I like the traditional Mexican cantina rules......from Wikipedia:

In rural Mexico, cantina traditionally refers to a kind of bar that is normally frequented only by males for the purpose of imbibing alcohol and partaking of botanas (appetizers). Some cantinas are also known for being places where people gather to play dominoes, cards or other table games. Cantinas can often be distinguished by signs that expressly prohibit entrance to women (mujeres) and children... Also, some cantinas explicitly prohibit entrance to dogs (perros) and men in police or military uniform (uniformados). Some of the traditional restrictions on entry to cantinas are beginning to fade away. However, in many areas it is still viewed as scandalous for proper ladies to be seen visiting a genuine cantina.

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Yes. According to the HAHC's Unwritten Rules of Historical Designation, dueling grounds and locations of judicial combat are to be preserved in their entirety including areas of participation, secondee activity and observation.

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I see. Plus, as I understand it, the knifee was staggering TOWARD the Conoco before collapsing, likely to buy a box of Marlboro Reds before he expired. Since the Conoco was likely his intended destination, I'm sure it counts.

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From the article:

"I will actually be adding on to the existing Conoco building and adding about 5,000 more square feet of restaurant and outdoor patio space." He admits to being chagrined about having to demolish the old Redi Room, but when has time not marched on in Houston?

So, they will repurpose the gas station and demolish the old bar. Interesting. Petrol Station did a great job repurposing an old gas station. But, that Conoco station is a different story. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

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Hopefully, they won't be repurposing THAT part of the Conoco.

That's why I liked Beer Island better. Knifing a guy is more old school than taking a guy out with a gun. Lazy man's murder weapon. This is the historic Heights after all. We don't do things just because it's easy.

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I suppose bludgeoning with a club would be okay right? Also across from this there wasn't there a lady who pulled a gun on people for parking infront of her house or something?

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I suppose bludgeoning with a club would be okay right? Also across from this there wasn't there a lady who pulled a gun on people for parking infront of her house or something?

I know this happened on 10 1/2. It was an African American couple parked on the street. The wife was walking up to Davis Hardware to get her check and her husband was parked under a tree. A woman came out of her house, pointed a shot gun at him, and yelled a bunch of racist epithets and threats.

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I know this happened on 10 1/2. It was an African American couple parked on the street. The wife was walking up to Davis Hardware to get her check and her husband was parked under a tree. A woman came out of her house, pointed a shot gun at him, and yelled a bunch of racist epithets and threats.

That sounds like a good case of terroristic threats. Or, a good way for her to get shot. You do not point a firearm at someone who is legally on the street.

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That sounds like a good case of terroristic threats. Or, a good way for her to get shot. You do not point a firearm at someone who is legally on the street.

I remember that. I believe that initially she was charged with aggravated assault. She lived somewhat behind Berryhill and was supposedly tired of people parking in front of her house.

That just shows how wimpy the Heights gets the further north you go. On 10 1/2 Street, they point guns and yell epithets. On 6th Street, they shoot you or knife you or break out every window in your bar (gang fight at 6th Street Bar & Grill). By the time you get to 14th or 15th, they just put rocks on the grass and complain about it on internet forums. On 18th, they invite you to park on the lawn and bring you lemonade.

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At some point you get back to threatening people with a machete and then taking over their bar with legal shenanigans though.

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At some point you get back to threatening people with a machete and then taking over their bar with legal shenanigans though.

nah, those days are over up there... now they just complain/whine really hard about event organizers up there.

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nah, those days are over up there... now they just complain/whine really hard about event organizers up there.

That's the way they do it north of 20th Street.

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Looks like earth moving has started at the Conoco site.  Digging up the underground storage tanks, I assume?



Looks like earth moving has started at the Conoco site.  Digging up the underground storage tanks, I assume?

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Off-topic and tea house posts deleted.  Anymore derogatory remarks about caffeine consumers and this thread will be locked.

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Off-topic and tea house posts deleted.  Anymore derogatory remarks about caffeine consumers and this thread will be locked.

 

Tea house posts were moved to a separate topic.

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http://www.chron.com/entertainment/restaurants-bars/article/Delicious-Concepts-rethinks-Heights-brewpub-6782722.php

 

moo.  Name is pretty bad, but at least they didn't do one of those douchy plus sign ("+") names.  Could have easily been "Ritual Taproom + Kitchen".

 

considering the sign is not up yet, there is always a chance.  

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Ate here on Saturday. They're taking the sourcing very seriously, and have an onsite dry aging program. They appear to be doing (at least some of) their own butchering onsite as well.

 

Beer program is impressive; wines BTG a little less so.

 

The menu is very... masculine.

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