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Cool. I like how these towers keep springing up right along I-10. Can't wait for 10 years or so down the line, it's going to look great from Highway 6 to the Beltway. Although the traffic at this intersection is already pretty awful at quitting time, and this certainly won't help. I think this is also really close to the site that Skanska bought and is planning on redeveloping, although that's slightly further south and not directly on the highway.

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Nice building, but these belong inside the loop. I guess someone forgot to close the gate and all the horses got out?

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I like the fact that the market has improved enough (especially in the Energy Corridor) to allow for spec buildings to be built again.

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Nice building, but these belong inside the loop. I guess someone forgot to close the gate and all the horses got out?

no they don't.

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Office bldgs like these are best served by improved freeway corridors. The inner loop is getting the mid-rise density it needs in the current apt. boom.

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The freeway is a single point of failure. Putting streets a mile apart was probably not a good idea.

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Nice building, but these belong inside the loop. I guess someone forgot to close the gate and all the horses got out?

The second part of your comment is pretty accurate. It seems to me that almost all of the significant office construction is occurring outside the loop at the moment.

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Nice building, but these belong inside the loop. I guess someone forgot to close the gate and all the horses got out?

Yeah, I've said for years that all those office buildings in Dallas belong in Houston. I don't understand how or why people keep building them or why other people keep leasing them up there. It's obviously not about an agglomeration of specialized labor. Perhaps I-45 is to blame? Or perhaps its their proximity to Canada. We could blame Canada. Why not, with their beady little eyes and flapping heads so full of lies... ;)

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The free market appears to disagree with you.

Hahaha, I'll write a reply after I finish laughing. Yes, the free market that built this 64 lane freeway. The invisible hand of the market set all the rebar and poured all the concrete. I wonder what the net tax flow from the loop to Katy is.

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Hahaha, I'll write a reply after I finish laughing. Yes, the free market that built this 64 lane freeway. The invisible hand of the market set all the rebar and poured all the concrete. I wonder what the net tax flow from the loop to Katy is.

Interstates are paid for with taxes on gasoline. The gasoline was bought to get people to Katy where they want to live. If you can get everyone to agree to live downtown and ride bikes the funding for highways will disapear. It could be done. Everyone can live inside the loop. If we could just corral them all up in some kind of Katy to downtown forced march then all our problems would be solved. It's always those stuborn people who don't want to obey that get in the way.

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Hahaha, I'll write a reply after I finish laughing. Yes, the free market that built this 64 lane freeway. The invisible hand of the market set all the rebar and poured all the concrete. I wonder what the net tax flow from the loop to Katy is.

Yes, I would consider building a 20 store building in the location considered best as the free market acting. BTW, the development of the Energy Corridor predates the widening of the Katy Freeway. (BP built a 20 story building there in 1992), so I'm not sure that I understand the relevance of your post. Shame on us for allowing people to live and work where they want!

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Yes, you've just explained how the government builds freeways. It levies a tax, gets additional funding from other agencies and other taxes, then elected officials get together and direct an agency to put together a plan, then after environmental studies and public comment periods, it's built or enlarged or whatever. Total 100% free market. I believe you.

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No, there's no shame involved. It's just a choice I'll never understand. I don't like sitting in traffic, and I don't care how many fake gables my house has. I get bored in totally homogenized places.

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Interstates are paid for with taxes on gasoline. The gasoline was bought to get people to Katy where they want to live. If you can get everyone to agree to live downtown and ride bikes the funding for highways will disapear. It could be done. Everyone can live inside the loop. If we could just corral them all up in some kind of Katy to downtown forced march then all our problems would be solved. It's always those stuborn people who don't want to obey that get in the way.

No. Partly, yes. Just like public transportation is partly paid for by farebox recovery.

LOL, we sure derailed this thread pretty quick didn't we?

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No, there's no shame involved. It's just a choice I'll never understand. I don't like sitting in traffic, and I don't care how many fake gables my house has. I get bored in totally homogenized places.

I understand your personal choice and appreciate that. Still doesn't explain to me why there shouldn't be construction in the Energy Corridor. Many people choose to live outside the loop. Many companies choose to locate their facilities close to those people. Sounds like a win-win to me.

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I'm going to drop out of this conversation, because it's just going to become "your neighborhood is shit." Although I love these conversations, this thread isn't the right venue.

I'll just make my point more explicit before I leave, and that is that the idea of a pure free market for real estate is a fiction. The value of a property is deeply entwined in the level of public investment made in an area. It's the real history of any city. The reason any of this dirt has value is infrastructure, and the communities around it built for decades on the back of yet more infrastructure. It's my opinion that high density uses should be clustered together to maximize infrastructure investment.

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No they don't.

My lord... Your posts are painful. Is there nothing more you can add to the converstaion?

Personally, I think this is great for the city. The continuing emergence of the Katy/energy corridor is a help to the image of the city. At least where freeway asthetics are concerned. Houstons a big damned city, and thinking that it all should remain inside the loop is ludicrous. It's not the natural condition of it's unique layout.

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Nice building, but these belong inside the loop. I guess someone forgot to close the gate and all the horses got out?

While I would like to agree, at the same time, I sure plot size and cost played a huge role in it's location, as well as it's proximity to the Energy Corridor.

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No they don't.

My lord... Your posts are painful. Is there nothing more you can add to the conversation?

Which is exactly why LTAWACS still has a negative post reputation on his profile page. And we have not had them on HAIF for years.

Says something about the person in general.

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Wow, the Chronicle had a plethora, no, treasure trove of new developments listed this morning. Here is one of them:

Energy Center Three

Developer: Trammell Crow Co./Principal Real Estate Investors

Address: 935 N. Eldridge Parkway

Size: 20 stories, 546,000 square feet

Project cost: More than $150 million

Architect: Kirksey

Status: Proposed

There is a rendering, but was couldn't capture it. Here's the link. It's the first rendering in the list. Not much to see honestly...

http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/2012/07/the-lowdown-on-the-projects-in-the-energy-corridor/#6207-1

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Thanks for posting. Wish they would build in midtown instead.

BTW, the irony of this post is priceless since this is right next to the "mugging in Midtown" thread.

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Border?

Well, since it's just another energy building, I suppose the design of it is all right.

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Per Bisnow, this one should be starting soon...

Another one hits the dirt: Construction of Energy Center Three, Trammell Crow and PrinREI’s latest venture, begins late this month.

The Class-AA 20-story tower will be at the SWC of I-10 and North Eldridge Pkwy in the Energy Corridor. (Above, Energy Center One.) It will be 546k SF and is aiming for LEED C&S Gold. Kirksey handled design and Balfour Beatty was selected as GC. Other team members include Haynes Whaley, Wylie Consulting Engineers, Walter P Moore, and TBG partners.

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Yes, I would consider building a 20 store building in the location considered best as the free market acting. BTW, the development of the Energy Corridor predates the widening of the Katy Freeway. (BP built a 20 story building there in 1992), so I'm not sure that I understand the relevance of your post. Shame on us for allowing people to live and work where they want!

I agree. People should not be allowed to do whatever they want.

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I agree. People should not be allowed to do whatever they want.

I agree. Especially regarding you being allowed to post on HAIF.

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By the way, great news. The West end of town is exploding. Unfortunately it's going to further the traffic problems at I-10 and Eldridge. Oh well, that's progress.

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been out for awhile... will have three phases (potentially, of course).

At the end of this video it shows the second tower, looking equally as tall

http://www.kirksey.com/project/energy_center_three

Confirms swtig http://energycenterthree.com/expansion.html

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