Subdude Posted July 5, 2005 Author Share Posted July 5, 2005 It's a mixed bag. The Sterling Hotel looks pretty ugly, but on the other hand the Red Wolf Hotel is cool, and I really like Jetero Airport, although the design wouldn't have been too practical when it came time to expand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted July 5, 2005 Author Share Posted July 5, 2005 The building being torn down in sevfiv's pictures is the one to the left in the Ritz-Carlton proposal. A few months ago there was a topic about tunnels that have been closed off. The door marked "garage" connected to one of those segments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted July 5, 2005 Author Share Posted July 5, 2005 I've never seen this building before. It definitely would have been a different design than most of the stuff we have. And it looks to be at least 75 stories so I guess around 1000 feet. Oh and I can't see the first two pics.1700 Travis would have been 70 stories. Kind of ugly if you ask me. Block 265 would have been 80 stories, and the Cullen Center proposal 47. I do like the BOTSW, Block 256 designs, though, as well as some of the ones not pictured here (Block 261, Project X, and Y, etc).What were Block 261 and Projects X and Y? One that I wish I had a picture of was to convert Main Street from Commerce to Lamar into an enclosed mall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Block 261, X and Y were all KPF projects. I have renderings of them in a book I bought, titled "Kohn Pedersen Fox, Buildings and Projects, 1976-1986", by Rizzoli Publishing. X and Y were pretty tall (70,and 60 stories) while the 261 was a smaller building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Del Oro development. View is intersection of 288 and the South Loop. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can *almost* see my house in that picture...I'm just across 288 from Del Oro. That particular location became townhomes/condos instead of office buildings...but very close by, the Med Center looks a lot like the rendering. Lots of offices/research buildings going up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YakuzaIce Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 You can *almost* see my house in that picture...I'm just across 288 from Del Oro.That particular location became townhomes/condos instead of office buildings...but very close by, the Med Center looks a lot like the rendering. Lots of offices/research buildings going up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Am I the only person who can't see this picture (and the one below it)? I even tried IE and still and just copying the URL and putting it in like that. Besides BotSW and 1700 Travis (which I think would look good in a clearer color rendering) I think we got most of the good buildings during that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Block 261, X and Y were all KPF projects. I have renderings of them in a book I bought, titled "Kohn Pedersen Fox, Buildings and Projects, 1976-1986", by Rizzoli Publishing. X and Y were pretty tall (70,and 60 stories) while the 261 was a smaller building. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Scan them and post them up please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Del Oro development. View is intersection of 288 and the South Loop. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Personally I like the little accident on the freeway on the lower right hand side. Thart shows me that the atist really knew Houston well when he built this model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Also, not in that picture that the proposed tollway in the median of 288 is already built.As for the pics, I'll see if I can get them scanned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Only one I really regret not having is that tall one in Houston Center, and maybe the second half of United Bank Plaza. Bank of the Southwest and Block 283 were great, but would have been out of scale. The Philip Johnson one was just plain ugly. I wonder if he was also the architect on the Main @ Congress building - it looks like his proposed buildings for Times Square. Good thing that didn't go up either - it would have taken out some of our best historic buildings.I wonder what the original plan for Cullen Center was like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 Only one I really regret not having is that tall one in Houston Center, and maybe the second half of United Bank Plaza. Bank of the Southwest and Block 283 were great, but would have been out of scale. The Philip Johnson one was just plain ugly. I wonder if he was also the architect on the Main @ Congress building - it looks like his proposed buildings for Times Square. Good thing that didn't go up either - it would have taken out some of our best historic buildings.I wonder what the original plan for Cullen Center was like? I don't think Johnson was the architect for Main @ Congress. That was probably just the style at the moment. This is all I have for Cullen Center, again from a Fuermann book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 The Fuermann books are great, aren't they? Some of the pictures in them are fantastic. About half of the ones you find are autographed, so he must have signed like crazy. The titles are extravagant: "Houston: Land of the Big Rich," "Houston: The Once and Future City," and the pictures and drawings reflect so much optimism and bravado. That must have been a great time to live in Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trophy Property Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Hunter Wrote:"Personally I like the little accident on the freeway on the lower right hand side. Thart shows me that the atist really knew Houston well when he built this model. "That is hysterical. I nice little smash up on the freeway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimeter285 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 THAT IS HILARIOUS! How awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YakuzaIce Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Am I the only one who can't see the first two pics??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 If you cannot see them, then how do you know they exist to be the 1st and 2nd pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Savoy-Field office building, approx. 1964. Hotel and garage only completed. i recently acquired this postcard, and i was SO confused about the office building part... does anyone know more about this? the current savoy has a crummy garage (about four stories) where the proposed office building sits in the postcard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucesw Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I kind of like the Sterling but it would have been way to big for Houston in that era. I wonder what happened to Ross Sterling. After he sold his shares in Humble to Standard, he went on a building and buying spree in Houston but I guess the biggest thing he ever built was the Post-Dispatch skyscraper (22 stories, Texas at Fannin, I think, now the Magnolia Hotel). I've read that when he sold the Post-Dispatch paper, it was at auction, which kind of sounds like bankruptcy. His bio in the Handbook of Texas says after he was defeated by Ma Ferguson for a second term as gov, he came back to Houston and 'built another fortune in oil.' Then there was: SW corner of Polk and Dowling, now demolished. Referred to as a red brick oven by Post staffers. The Shamrock was a bad business decision -- too far out of downtown and too big. It was never profitable. Hilton couldn't turn a profit on it. No wonder the complex never got built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 i recently acquired this postcard, and i was SO confused about the office building part...does anyone know more about this? the current savoy has a crummy garage (about four stories) where the proposed office building sits in the postcard...The crummy garage is there in the postcard. The office building was supposed to have been built on top, but I don't know why it didn't happen. If you look along the back of the hotel section there are protrusions in the building that don't make sense until you realize it was supposed to connect to the office building. Until recently there were brass "S-F" plaques embedded in the sidewalk around the Savoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 yep...i wish i could have rescued one before they were taken out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 just came across this, circa 1984: Bank of the Southwest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Somehow, I don't miss that we never had most of these built. They may have made the skyline look a little less modern, due to the number of international style glass boxes(and generic concrete boxes) that would have been built. I do like the BOTSW, Block 256 designs, though, as well as some of the ones not pictured here (Block 261, Project X, and Y, etc). The campeau center looks like something out of Detroit, though (really old, almost genuine 20's in appearance) and may have thrown off the balance of the skyline, once again.I'm happy with what we have: But if some of those Buildings were Built, and some not, then you would probibly be saying the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-townsfinest Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 thats what happends when you have sorry leaders in a great city, but hope is in these leaders we have today, we got a great mayor with a great vision, houston still has the potential for more great buildings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston1stWordOnTheMoon Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 thats what happends when you have sorry leaders in a great city, but hope is in these leaders we have today, we got a great mayor with a great vision, houston still has the potential for more great buildings You are correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmulder Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 thats what happends when you have sorry leaders in a great city, but hope is in these leaders we have today, we got a great mayor with a great vision, houston still has the potential for more great buildingsOr a theme park... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hey Sub, that "6" Houston Center is not "6" Houston center. Its simply an early design for 5 Houston Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimeter285 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 A building very similar to that AIM proposal just opened in Atlanta called Symphony Tower: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hey Sub, that "6" Houston Center is not "6" Houston center. Its simply an early design for 5 Houston Center. But it is on a different block than 5 Houston Center. 5 is next to the Fulbright building, this one is in front of it on the block adjacent to Park shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 But it is on a different block than 5 Houston Center. 5 is next to the Fulbright building, this one is in front of it on the block adjacent to Park shops.It only appears so. The block adjacent to the park shops belongs to the park infront of the GRB. Besides, I remember this picture on skyscrapers.com as being 5 Houston Center before the current design was released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 It only appears so. The block adjacent to the park shops belongs to the park infront of the GRB. Besides, I remember this picture on skyscrapers.com as being 5 Houston Center before the current design was released. OK, thanks for the correction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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