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You've said some stupid things, but this one might take the cake.

So, looks like DFW gets Emirates A380 service starting in October with Qantas A380 service to Sydney a bit later on.   For IAH, the news is out that Emirates swaps 777 service with the A380 starting

Quite a difference 4 years makes. IAH is still larger than DFW in terms of international passengers, but fortunes have changed somewhat in that DFW seems to have been more successful recently at landi

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Well, the 2nd daily to Tokyo on United already launched and the New UA IAH-MUC flight launches in 2 weeks, KE starts in less than a month. SAS in August. With Terminal D get a re-do. 3 more A380s reportedly in the way, 1 when the phase 1, Terminal C North phase is complete, 2 more when the renovation is finished.

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EK is bring a A380 to DFW and now Qantas will fly direct between Sydney and DFW both ways. The Melbourne and London A380 service was ended and the mix of 748 and A380 service to Hong Kong made this move possible.

 

@QantasAirways: News: We will now be offering the largest passenger aircraft on the world's longest route http://bit.ly/1jyKSnA  http://bit.ly/1siYTZr

 

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United will be starting daily service to Santiago, Chile on December 7th with a 763.

 

UA847 IAH-SCL 2105-0940

UA846 SCL-IAH 2245-0540

 

There's also rumor of a Saturday-only service to Punta Cana, Dominican Republic, but not sure about that one yet. Great to see new routes from IAH on UA, Santiago was a gaping hole on UA's South American network.

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United will be starting daily service to Santiago, Chile on December 7th with a 763.

 

UA847 IAH-SCL 2105-0940

UA846 SCL-IAH 2245-0540

 

There's also rumor of a Saturday-only service to Punta Cana, Dominican Republic, but not sure about that one yet. Great to see new routes from IAH on UA, Santiago was a gaping hole on UA's South American network.

 

Great news!   We're steadily moving towards the 200-nonstop destinations milestone.

 

(FWIW, World Airline News reports the Punta Cana weekly flight, so it seems it's past the rumor stage.)

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Yup, Punta Cana schedule is announced. Saturday-only 738 flights, with a second weekly flight between December 20 and January 4.

 

UA1707 IAH-PUJ 1015-1705

UA1708 PUJ-IAH 1700-1910

 

Some other nice changes...

IAH-FRA going from 763 to 788 on March 5

IAH-LHR will have two daily 788s in addition to one 763 (previously two 763s and one 788) on January 6

IAH-GRU going from 763 to 772 on October 26

 

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Huge devaluation of united mileageplus is a blow to 98% of united fliers though.

 

Then fly someone else. Or, use the miles more often. There's never a guarantee that you will get to use them.

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Yup, Punta Cana schedule is announced. Saturday-only 738 flights, with a second weekly flight between December 20 and January 4.

UA1707 IAH-PUJ 1015-1705

UA1708 PUJ-IAH 1700-1910

Some other nice changes...

IAH-FRA going from 763 to 788 on March 5

IAH-LHR will have two daily 788s in addition to one 763 (previously two 763s and one 788) on January 6

IAH-GRU going from 763 to 772 on October 26

Yes! And more could be on the way!
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Then fly someone else. Or, use the miles more often. There's never a guarantee that you will get to use them.

I use my miles I haven't bought a ticket in seven years to go anywhere. And I will fly for the experience not just for united miles now.

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So, looks like DFW gets Emirates A380 service starting in October with Qantas A380 service to Sydney a bit later on.

 

For IAH, the news is out that Emirates swaps 777 service with the A380 starting 12/3/14.  Coupled with Lufthansa's existing IAH-FRA route and what looks to be Houston Airport System's anticipation of both Air France and Qatar Airways replacing their Boeing 777s with A380s, IAH flyers might soon be seeing 4 of those massive tail fins in north Houston before too long. 

 

Lots of interesting details are in the city's Terminal D renovation draft plan in case anyone has interest.  IAH is really growing up: the city plans to have 15 gates for Term D including 12 "flex" gates to accommodate various long-haul planes.  When they're not around, those flex gates can service 737s and CRJs.  The .pdf also mentions gate plans include utilization by United Airlines so Term D won't be exclusively for foreign carriers. 

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American Airlines plans to fly from Dallas/Fort Worth to Beijing

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2014/09/american-airlines-plans-to-fly-from-dallasfort-worth-to-beijing.html

 

 

American did not give a start date for the new flights other than “next summer.” It said it would use a Boeing 777-200ER, the same model being used on the DFW-Shanghai route.

 

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Seems like a good time for an update:

 

Let's look at the current, or soon to be started international service at DFW vs. IAH:

 

Europe

DFW:  Amsterdam (KL, seasonal only), Paris (AA), London (AA 3X/day, BA), Frankfurt (AA, LH), Madrid (AA)

IAH: Amsterdam (KL, UA), Paris (AF) London (UA 3X/day, BA2X/day), Frankfurt (UA, LH), Moscow (SQ), Munich (UA)

 

Middle East/Africa

DFW: Dubai (EK), Doha (QR), new:  Abu Dhabi (Eithad)

IAH: Dubai (EK), Doha (QR), Istanbul (UA), Lagos (UA)

 

Asia/South Pacific

DFW: Tokyo (2X/day, AA), Seoul (AA, KE), Brisban/Sydney (QF), Shanghai (AA), Hong Kong (AA) new:  Beijing (AA to start in mid-2015)

IAH: Tokyo (UA, new: ANA to start 2015), Beijing (CA),  new: Taipei (EVA to start mid-2015)  Singapore (not a nonstop, but same plane direct, SQ)

 

Deep Latin America:

DFW: Lima, Sao Paulo, Rio, Buenos Aires, Santiago (all AA)

IAH: Lima, Sao Paulo, Rio, Buenos Aires, new:  Santiago (all UA)

 

 

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Another update:  With the announcement of ANA service and the all-but-announced EVA service, IAH will now have 18 foreign flag carriers (including the charter-only SonAir);  19 carriers with international service.      In comparison, with the soon-to-be-added VivaAerobus, DFW will have 13 foreign flag carriers (three of which are seasonal only); 14 carriers with international service.

 

IAH:

1. Aeromexico
2. Air Canada
3. Air China
4. Air France

5. ANA
6. British Airways
7. Emirates
8. EVA Air
9. Interjet
10. KLM
11. Korean Air
12. Lufthansa
13. Qatar Airways
14. Scandinavian Airlines
15. Singapore Airlines
16. SonAir *
17. Turkish Airlines
18. VivaAerobus
19. United

* SonAir is charter only

 

DFW:

1.   Aeromexico

2.   Air Canada

3.   Avianca

4.   British Airways

5.   Cayman Airways (seasonal only and even then only once-weekly)

6.   Emirates

7.   Etihad

8.   KLM (sesaonal only)

9.   Korean

10. Lufthansa

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

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Spirit will also have international service at both. You also left off Avianca for IAH, so really 21 carriers with international service once everything announced starts up (counting SonAir). And Qantas and Sun Country at DFW so they have 17.

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Spirit will also have international service at both. You also left off Avianca for IAH, so really 21 carriers with international service once everything announced starts up (counting SonAir). And Qantas and Sun Country at DFW so they have 17.

 

Avianca does not fly to IAH.  They serve IAH with code shares with TACA.  But it appears I also left of TACA.  Good catch on Spirit.

 

Right about Qantas and Sun Country. 

 

Edited:  (Hat-tip to asubrt):

 

Another update:  With the announcement of ANA service, Spirit service, and the all-but-announced EVA service, IAH will now have 19 foreign flag carriers (including the charter-only SonAir);  21 carriers with international service.      In comparison, with the soon-to-be-added VivaAerobus and Spirit, DFW will have 13 foreign flag carriers (three of which are seasonal only); 16 carriers with international service.

 

IAH:

1. Aeromexico

2. Air Canada

3. Air China

4. Air France

5. ANA

6. British Airways

7. Emirates

8. EVA Air

9. Interjet

10. KLM

11. Korean Air

12. Lufthansa

13. Qatar Airways

14. Scandinavian Airlines

15. Singapore Airlines

16. SonAir *

17. TACA

17. Turkish Airlines

19. VivaAerobus

20. Spirit

21. United

* SonAir is charter only

 

DFW:

1.   Aeromexico

2.   Air Canada

3.   Avianca

4.   British Airways

5.   Cayman Airways (seasonal only and even

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

15. Spirit

16. Sun Country (4 x per week)

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Avianca does not fly to IAH.  They serve IAH with code shares with TACA.  But it appears I also left of TACA.  Good catch on Spirit.

 

Splitting hairs, but TACA is now called Avianca El Salvador. I said Avianca (which is the Colombian one) but I meant Avianca El Salvador. Either way, it's the same thing. They serve San Salvador and, seasonally, Roatan.

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Houston19514,

 

I believe that you may have left out three carriers for DFW:

 

1. Etihad

2. Emirates

3. Korean

 

Also, Volaris has applied for Houston service, so we might get another carrier.

 

Thanks.

 

-no1racer

 

 

Avianca does not fly to IAH.  They serve IAH with code shares with TACA.  But it appears I also left of TACA.  Good catch on Spirit.

 

Right about Qantas and Sun Country. 

 

Edited:  (Hat-tip to asubrt):

 

Another update:  With the announcement of ANA service, Spirit service, and the all-but-announced EVA service, IAH will now have 19 foreign flag carriers (including the charter-only SonAir);  21 carriers with international service.      In comparison, with the soon-to-be-added VivaAerobus and Spirit, DFW will have 13 foreign flag carriers (three of which are seasonal only); 16 carriers with international service.

 

IAH:

1. Aeromexico
2. Air Canada
3. Air China
4. Air France

5. ANA
6. British Airways
7. Emirates
8. EVA Air
9. Interjet
10. KLM
11. Korean Air
12. Lufthansa
13. Qatar Airways
14. Scandinavian Airlines
15. Singapore Airlines
16. SonAir *

17. TACA
17. Turkish Airlines
19. VivaAerobus

20. Spirit
21. United

* SonAir is charter only

 

DFW:

1.   Aeromexico

2.   Air Canada

3.   Avianca

4.   British Airways

5.   Cayman Airways (seasonal only and even

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

15. Spirit

16. Sun Country (4 x per week)

 

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Houston19514,

 

I believe that you may have left out three carriers for DFW:

 

1. Etihad

2. Emirates

3. Korean

 

Also, Volaris has applied for Houston service, so we might get another carrier.

 

Thanks.

 

-no1racer

 

Thanks.  Good catch on Volaris.

 

Not sure how it happened.  I had Etihad, Emirates and Korean listed and you'll note the numbering still reflects their presence.  Thanks for noting their absence.

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IAH:  20 foreign flag/22 total carriers with international service

DFW:  13 foreign flag (3 seasonal only)/16 total carriers with international service

 

IAH:

1.  Aeromexico
2.  Air Canada
3.  Air China
4.  Air France

5.  ANA

6.  Aviance
7.  British Airways
8.  Emirates
9.  EVA Air
10. Interjet
11. KLM
12. Korean Air
13. Lufthansa
14. Qatar Airways
15. Scandinavian Airlines
16. Singapore Airlines

17. Solaris
18. SonAir *

19. Turkish Airlines
20. VivaAerobus

21. Spirit
22. United

* SonAir is charter only

 

DFW:

1.   Aeromexico

2.   Air Canada

3.   Avianca

4.   British Airways

5.   Cayman Airways (seasonal only and even then only once-weekly)

6.   Emirates

7.   Etihad

8.  KLM (sesaonal only)

9.   Korean

10. Lufthansa

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

15. Spirit

16. Sun Country (4 x per week)

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Splitting hairs, but TACA is now called Avianca El Salvador. I said Avianca (which is the Colombian one) but I meant Avianca El Salvador. Either way, it's the same thing. They serve San Salvador and, seasonally, Roatan.

 

I guess they are changing things fast.  Last time I looked (which was not that long ago) they were still operating as two separate airlines.  Thanks for the update.

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How the heck is Westjet not serving Houston yet? I realize this may not be the best time to start Calgary, but in terms of its PDEW, it is second only to London for O/D traffic for international travel from Houston. Korean's decision to fly here (aside: don't get me wrong, I love seeing an additional tail fin at IAH), is baffling, but Westjet's absence has been equally baffling.

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Updated:

 

IAH:  21 foreign flag/23 total carriers with international service

DFW:  13 foreign flag (3 seasonal only)/16 total carriers with international service

 

IAH:

1.  Aeromexico
2.  Air Canada
3.  Air China
4.  Air France

5.  ANA

6.  Avianca
7.  British Airways
8.  Emirates
9.  EVA Air
10. Interjet
11. KLM
12. Korean Air
13. Lufthansa
14. Qatar Airways
15. Scandinavian Airlines
16. Singapore Airlines

17. SonAir *

18. Turkish Airlines
19. VivaAerobus

20. Volaris

21. WestJet  (Hat tip to Houstontexasjack)

22. Spirit
23. United

 

* SonAir is charter only

 

DFW:

1.   Aeromexico

2.   Air Canada

3.   Avianca

4.   British Airways

5.   Cayman Airways (seasonal only and even then only once-weekly)

6.   Emirates

7.   Etihad

8.  KLM (sesaonal only)

9.   Korean

10. Lufthansa

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

15. Spirit

16. Sun Country (4 x per week)

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Updated:

 

IAH:  21 foreign flag/24 total carriers with international service

DFW:  13 foreign flag (3 seasonal only)/16 total carriers with international service

 

IAH:

1.  Aeromexico
2.  Air Canada
3.  Air China
4.  Air France

5.  ANA

6.  Avianca
7.  British Airways
8.  Emirates
9.  EVA Air
10. Interjet
11. KLM
12. Korean Air
13. Lufthansa
14. Qatar Airways
15. Scandinavian Airlines
16. Singapore Airlines

17. SonAir *

18. Turkish Airlines
19. VivaAerobus

20. Volaris

21. WestJet  (Hat tip to Houstontexasjack)

22. Spirit

23. Sunwing (Seaonal)  (Hat tip to Asubrt)
24. United

 

* SonAir is charter only

 

DFW:

1.   Aeromexico

2.   Air Canada

3.   Avianca

4.   British Airways

5.   Cayman Airways (seasonal only and even then only once-weekly)

6.   Emirates

7.   Etihad

8.  KLM (sesaonal only)

9.   Korean

10. Lufthansa

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

15. Spirit

16. Sun Country (4 x per week)

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it is meaningless to compare how many international carriers fly to these two airport. For example I don't think their is any difference between 2 UA to Tokyo and 1 UA + 1 ANA. Yes you may argue saying codeshare may bring more passengers, but from airport perspective it is not making too much difference. What we should see is AA is definitely placing more weights on DFW comparing to UA on IAH. They added Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong three destination within one year. But what UA has done in the past few years? They simply cut off plan of Auckland and Shanghai due to Southwest planning international service in Hobby. DFW also have Qantas serving Australia, which makes a huge difference. AA also flies to 2 destinations from DFW to Hawaii. I am pleased we are going to build new terminal D, but IAH footprint is so awkward to make any future expansion comparing with DFW.

 

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it is meaningless to compare how many international carriers fly to these two airport. For example I don't think their is any difference between 2 UA to Tokyo and 1 UA + 1 ANA. Yes you may argue saying codeshare may bring more passengers, but from airport perspective it is not making too much difference. What we should see is AA is definitely placing more weights on DFW comparing to UA on IAH. They added Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong three destination within one year. But what UA has done in the past few years? They simply cut off plan of Auckland and Shanghai due to Southwest planning international service in Hobby. DFW also have Qantas serving Australia, which makes a huge difference. AA also flies to 2 destinations from DFW to Hawaii. I am pleased we are going to build new terminal D, but IAH footprint is so awkward to make any future expansion comparing with DFW.

 

And Chicago O'Hare's footprint is not? They've got runways pointed in every direction, crossing each other. It's a mess.

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I believe the decision not to fly AKL to IAH is there is no that much of a market.  Has nothing to due with Hobby expansion.  Houston MSA is larger then the whole country of New Zealand.  When United started flying from LAX to Melbourne with the 787-900 Virgin Australia stop there service. Quantas is using a Airbus 380.  The United flight has a load factor of 80%.  Quantas cannot fill up the Airbus 380 so they are losing money on that route.  United received another 787-900 wonder where that will fly.  They are starting to fly the 787-800 to South America.  United will get 10 787-900 this year all based in IAH.  Hopefully more international non stops fro Houston.    

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Corrected to remove duplicate listing of Qatar in DFW's listing  (Hat tip to Arch_757):

 

IAH:  21 foreign flag/24 total carriers with international service

DFW:  12 foreign flag (3 seasonal only)/15 total carriers with international service

 

IAH:

1.  Aeromexico
2.  Air Canada
3.  Air China
4.  Air France

5.  ANA

6.  Avianca
7.  British Airways
8.  Emirates
9.  EVA Air
10. Interjet
11. KLM
12. Korean Air
13. Lufthansa
14. Qatar Airways
15. Scandinavian Airlines
16. Singapore Airlines

17. SonAir *

18. Turkish Airlines
19. VivaAerobus

20. Volaris

21. WestJet  (Hat tip to Houstontexasjack)

22. Spirit

23. Sunwing (Seaonal)  (Hat tip to Asubrt)
24. United

 

* SonAir is charter only

 

DFW:

1.   Aeromexico

2.   Air Canada

3.   Avianca

4.   British Airways

5.   Cayman Airways (seasonal only and even then only once-weekly)

6.   Emirates

7.   Etihad

8.  KLM (sesaonal only)

9.   Korean

10. Lufthansa

11. Qatar

12. Westjet (seasonal only)

13. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

14. American

11. Westjet (seasonal only)

12. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

13. American

14. Spirit

15. Sun Country (4 x per week)

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Another correction.  I don't know how I keep duplicating parts of the DFW list and dropping airlines, but here's another attempt:

 

IAH:  21 foreign flag/24 total carriers with international service

DFW:  13 foreign flag (3 seasonal only)/16 total carriers with international service

 

IAH:

1.  Aeromexico
2.  Air Canada
3.  Air China
4.  Air France

5.  ANA

6.  Avianca
7.  British Airways
8.  Emirates
9.  EVA Air
10. Interjet
11. KLM
12. Korean Air
13. Lufthansa
14. Qatar Airways
15. Scandinavian Airlines
16. Singapore Airlines

17. SonAir *

18. Turkish Airlines
19. VivaAerobus

20. Volaris

21. WestJet  (Hat tip to Houstontexasjack)

22. Spirit

23. Sunwing (Seaonal)  (Hat tip to Asubrt)
24. United

 

* SonAir is charter only

 

DFW:

1.   Aeromexico

2.   Air Canada

3.   Avianca

4.   British Airways

5.   Cayman Airways (seasonal only and even then only once-weekly)

6.   Emirates

7.   Etihad

8.  KLM (sesaonal only)

9.   Korean

10. Lufthansa

11. Qatar

12. Volaris

13. Westjet (seasonal only)

14. VivaAerobus (starting 2015)

15. American

16. Spirit

17. Sun Country (4 x per week)

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