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Also, Who drinks 3 bottles of tequila in one sitting?

A troll.

Anyhow, you are correct, I think the majority of the people who move in here will be St Joseph medical center employees or work downtown, just like most other midtowners.

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I am going to bet that it is going to be a little too noisy for the owners to sit outside and enjoy a bottle or three of tequila during the week (rush hour, pollution, traffic, violence, etc) considering it is right next to the highway.

 

You obviously do not know the area. In the many years that I have lived here, I have never been caught in a traffic jam driving through Gray, Webster, or La Branch in Midtown. We have a balcony where we spend time sipping coffee; reading and enjoying our view of the downtown skyline. There is ambient city noise, but it never gets too noisy, and we have not witnessed any violence. Did you know that there is a Dept. of Homeland Security facility in the corner of Austin and Hadley - one block from the proposed apartment site? We see patrol cars covering the area all the time. A neighbor made the mistake of parking a U-Haul truck across the street from DHS and within minutes, patrol cars were around to check the truck out. Also, there is a benefit to being between DHS and St. Joseph Hospital. After Hurricane Ike, the area was without power for only 30 minutes. I understand that Montrose and the Heights were without electricity for something like 2 weeks. Take note: no electricity means no air conditioning... in the sweltering heat of Houston. 

 

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These are the same blocks where Milhaus(?) was planned correct?

 

Pretty risky location IMO.  Personally I wouldn't want to walk from that apt to bagby area or vice versa at night.

 

We live in this area, and during the summer we walk the dog at night (around 9:00pm) after it has cooled down. We haven't had any problems. I have not walked to the greyhound area, but when I drive through there, I also see residents walking their dogs at night too. I think someone from the suburbs would not be comfortable doing that, but when you live in the city, you learn to live with everything that's in it.

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We live in this area, and during the summer we walk the dog at night (around 9:00pm) after it has cooled down. We haven't had any problems. I have not walked to the greyhound area, but when I drive through there, I also see residents walking their dogs at night too. I think someone from the suburbs would not be comfortable doing that, but when you live in the city, you learn to live with everything that's in it.

 

And the nice thing about density is, the more people moving in, the safer it gets in terms of people on the streets after dusk.

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I don't know about violent crime, but I think the general crime rate is much higher around the Greyhound station than downtown (number of incidents, not necessarily number of incidents/resident, since there are so few residents downtown).  Downtown for the most part is vacant after 11:00 pm.  There is no one around to commit crime or become a victim.  During the day, there are too many people--all of whom are business people--for many crimes to occur.  

 

And there is a reason there is such a strong police presence around the bus station -- that is where all the crime happens.  There are undercover cops galore in the immediate vicinity running drug and prostitution stings (interestingly, a lot of male prostitution).  The city is (or was) trying to shut down the gas station across the street as a public nuisance due to all the crime occurring there.  Admittedly all the crimes I've identified are non-violent, but my assumption is that there must be some violent crime associated with these because there normally is.  And this is not unusual -- the same issues exist in Chicago and other cities that are trying to redevelop the areas immediately around the bus station.

 

All of that said, the more people that move to the area, the safer it will become (as Nuclearreaction noted), so I'm all for this new development.    

 

 

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What happened to the plan to move the bus terminal? I remember reading somewhere that there was a plan in the works to relocate it.

We lived for seven years in the old Wagon Yard project, at the same time they built Minute Maid.

from 1997 until 2004 when we were all evicted by the fire marshall.

Just around the corner was the Star of Hope and several other food drops. Some had even built a small tent city under the Elysian viaduct.

We had street people in the area all the time and never was bothered or even approached.

When people who live in the burbs start talking about the violence in the midtown and downtown areas,

I have to laugh.

Just watch the news any night and you'll see that  most of the serious crime; murder, rapes, assaults, drive by shootings

and break ins occur in the burbs.

Remember that those people left the central city (white flight) to get away from the "Crime", and moved out to the burbs.

Let them keep thinking that way. It makes it a lot easier to enjoy all of the wonderful things they have to drive back in to take advantage of. Washington Ave. wasn't much better not that many years ago.

It will happen and it will happen fast since Midtown has reached the tipping point.

And next will be the third ward.

 

 

 

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Yes, the Greyhound station is the last remaining bad place in Midtown and I have not heard anything about it moving now (especially since the Intermodal terminal is not happening).

 

I lived in Midtown for 5 years, walked/jogged around at night, but never felt safe around the station. My wife's grandmother who can't drive far will take the bus in to visit us occasionally and I go to pick/drop her off at this location still. It's weird going back to the old neighborhood and seeing how much Midtown has changed just in the past two years, but the station still remains the same (as it did back in 2005 when we first moved to Midtown).

 

All that said, it's only bad within a block of the station (it's like they feel more powerful when they congregate together). The location of this proposed development would make me feel safeliving there (even though it's only three blocks away). The dealers/thugs that hang out around it do nothing to you and are cowards when they are not standing together with eachother lumped around the station itself.

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I've seen people selling drugs near the gas station across from the BMW service center right in view of cops less than a block away. This was around noon.

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They should be exterminated. Either way, there should probably be a higher police presence there.

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I've seen people selling drugs near the gas station across from the BMW service center right in view of cops less than a block away. This was around noon.

This is your war on drugs...

Any questions?

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I've seen people selling drugs near the gas station across from the BMW service center right in view of cops less than a block away. This was around noon.

 

I didn't think anyone was looking. I'll be more discreet next time.

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I didn't think anyone was looking. I'll be more discreet next time.

 

I was hoping to see some new renderings, rumored start date, etc... but this was still good

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It looks like there will be another Variance Request Meeting for this project on January 23. Based on the Plan that was sent to the neighboring homeowners, there will be ground floor parking, and the front (lobby and leasing office) will face Austin St. It is not clear how tall the structure would be.

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Really wish people would stop asking if there is any update .. if you click the link and there is no new info.. them clearly there is no new info.. when people know somthing they will post it.. it like asking are we there yet

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Really wish people would stop asking if there is any update .. if you click the link and there is no new info.. them clearly there is no new info.. when people know somthing they will post it.. it like asking are we there yet

 

So you're saying you don't have any new info?

 

Cool.

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Property is now owned by Jones Lang LaSalle, the same firm developing Six Houston Center.

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Property is now owned by Jones Lang LaSalle, the same firm developing Six Houston Center.

I believe they are only leasing 6 HC for Crescent, who is the owner of the Houston Center complex.

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I believe they are only leasing 6 HC for Crescent, who is the owner of the Houston Center complex.

 

Ah yes sorry. I meant to put leasing.

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Latest news:

 

 

 

Name: Webster at Crawford Ph I, II
Address: Webster St at Crawford St, Houston, TX 77002
Units: 250
Management Company: Winther Investments

 

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6 hours ago, terra002 said:

TOTALLY DEAD?

 

Other than a brief appearance in the "Australian dude developing two blocks near rail" thread, not even a rumor of activity in a year. I bike by this lot every morning, so any real activity will be promptly reported.

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On 5/8/2018 at 11:52 AM, Froosh12 said:
Drainage Impact
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 1 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2/A3-A 100% SPR06 IBC (MASTER OF 6)
0
WJ
Open Space
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 1 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2/A3-A 100% SPR06 IBC (MASTER OF 6)
0
PK
GRADING , FILL
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 1 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2/A3-A 100% SPR06 IBC (MASTER OF 6)
0
FG
DEVEL-REVIEW
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 1 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2/A3-A 100% SPR06 IBC (MASTER OF 6)
0
FF
Develop Plats
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 1 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2/A3-A 100% SPR06 IBC (MASTER OF 6)
0
DA
CERT OF OCCUP.
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 1 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2/A3-A 100% SPR06 IBC (MASTER OF 6)
0
CO
FM Standpipes
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 1 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2/A3-A 100% SPR06 IBC (MASTER OF 6)
0
17
Building Pmt
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 1 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2/A3-A 100% SPR06 IBC (MASTER OF 6)
6364000
13
CERT OF OCCUP.
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 2 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2-A 100% SPR 2006 IBC ( 2 OF 6)
0
CO
Building Pmt
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST BLD 2 77002
NEW APTS ABOVE PODIUM 1-5-3-R2-A 100% SPR 2006 IBC ( 2 OF 6)
10836000
13
ES-SAWPOLE PT
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST GRG 1 77002
NEW PODIUM OPEN PARKING GARAGE 1-2-1-S2-A 2006 IBC ( 3 OF 6 )
0
ES
CERT OF OCCUP.
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST GRG 1 77002
NEW PODIUM OPEN PARKING GARAGE 1-2-1-S2-A 2006 IBC ( 3 OF 6 )
0
CO
Building Pmt
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST GRG 1 77002
NEW PODIUM OPEN PARKING GARAGE 1-2-1-S2-A 2006 IBC ( 3 OF 6 )
2000000
13
CERT OF OCCUP.
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST FP 77002
NEW FIRE PUMP ROOM
0
CO
Building Pmt
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST FP 77002
NEW FIRE PUMP ROOM
20000
13
CRT/COMPLIANCE
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST CLUB 77002
NEW LEASING OFFICE 1-2-1-A3/B-A 100% SPRINKLER 06 IBC ( 4 OF 6 )
0
CC
Building Pmt
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST CLUB 77002
NEW LEASING OFFICE 1-2-1-A3/B-A 100% SPRINKLER 06 IBC ( 4 OF 6 )
800000
13
WW Utility Admin
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST 77002
WATER/WASTE WATER APPLICATION (00008682) REVIEW
0
WT
Impact Water
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST 77002
CONSTRUCT 215 APT W/ WASHER/DRYERS
0
WI
Impact WWater
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST 77002
CONSTRUCT 215 APT W/ WASHER/DRYERS
0
WW
WW Utility Admin
*WINTHER INVESTMENT, INC
2111 AUSTIN ST 77002
CONSTRUCT 215 APT W/ WASHER/DRYERS
0
WT

 

These are all fairly old...

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1 hour ago, corbs315 said:

 

These are all fairly old...

 

The most recent permit applications (11/15/2017) are quite a bit newer than the post that preceded his (or hers :ph34r:) (12/19/2016).

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31 minutes ago, phillip_white said:

 

The most recent permit applications (11/15/2017) are quite a bit newer than the post that preceded his (12/19/2016).

Fair point!

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Fence is up on the western block.  Crew was cutting down trees this morning!

 

 

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I like that they're starting work, don't like they're cutting down trees - would have been nice if they could keep them

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They were only cutting the 2-3 trees that were inside the fence.....they werent cutting the ones close to the street when I drove by.  I'll check when I get home from work.

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There's at least that - and if it's a full block development I guess they can't really use those trees

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