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On 2/9/2019 at 4:33 PM, danielsonr said:

According to the MFAH website, mfah.org, the building will have the following features:

“• Gathered under a “luminous canopy” roof, the concave curves reference the billowing clouds that fill the “big sky” of Texas
Vertical, translucent-glass tubes cladding the facades
• Two floors and 54,000 square feet of galleries circling a three-level atrium space, with the distinctive roof allowing natural light to flood the central spaces
• The 202-seat Lynn and Oscar Wyatt Theater; a restaurant; and a café
• Seven gardens and six reflecting pools inset along the building’s perimeter”

 

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4 hours ago, hindesky said:

Glass going in.

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That glazing system looks super expensive haha. One day...one day I'll be able to do this.

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On 2/7/2019 at 1:23 PM, Luminare said:

 

From the renderings it looks like it will probably some kind of custom metal panel rain screen system. This would also give them enough room/space to add lighting within the screen itself giving it that "glowing" look they had in the nighttime render. Looked like the interior lobby spaces would be concrete.

It's actually a frosted glass of semi-circular columns. They had a mock-up at the art storage facility.

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2 hours ago, DarklyMoron said:

It's actually a frosted glass of semi-circular columns. They had a mock-up at the art storage facility.

 

Definitely would love to see those! We need pics!

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9 hours ago, Luminare said:

 

Definitely would love to see those! We need pics!

 

 

Just drove by, it was night, but I don't think they have started installing them. 

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If you want to see this model in person, it's on display in the Mies van der Rhoe wing of the museum.

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15 hours ago, danielsonr said:

Also from the Steven Holl Architects website, model of the completed building...

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Its "Mies van der Rohe" not "Rhoe"...

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Drove by the corner of Main and Binz today and noticed they have started installing the outer shell. It appears to be some sort of acrylic individual half round column like panels that might be eight to ten feet tall. They probably stick out from the supports 9". It's going to be a very interesting undulating surface of glowing white light. Someone needs to get by tomorrow and take some pictures so everyone will see what I'm trying to describe. My description probably isn't very clear.

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54 minutes ago, bobruss said:

Drove by the corner of Main and Binz today and noticed they have started installing the outer shell. It appears to be some sort of acrylic individual half round column like panels that might be eight to ten feet tall. They probably stick out from the supports 9". It's going to be a very interesting undulating surface of glowing white light. Someone needs to get by tomorrow and take some pictures so everyone will see what I'm trying to describe. My description probably isn't very clear.

 

 

Ill try to swing by if I can remember. 

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Thats great. Thanks jmitch94, for all of the great photos! They've made progress since I first saw them installing the panels. I cant wait to see those lights turn on. I bet the first night they test them there will be a crowd..

 It's going to be amazing. It will create a real buzz, because the landscape and overall master plan are going to make the whole campus connect and be a magnet for visitors,  that will drawn to the light! Are you ready?

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44 minutes ago, bobruss said:

Thats great. Thanks jmitch94, for all of the great photos! They've made progress since I first saw them installing the panels. I cant wait to see those lights turn on. I bet the first night they test them there will be a crowd..

 It's going to be amazing. It will create a real buzz, because the landscape and overall master plan are going to make the whole campus connect and be a magnet for visitors,  that will drawn to the light! Are you ready?

 

Y'all keep an eye out for any update videos/pictures from the museum or contractor. I saw a guy in a hard hat and vest behind the fence with what looked like a drone controller. 

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^^^ hopefully the LED lighting design shall include more colors than just ordinary white.  no matter how beautiful this design is initially, it shall indeed become quite boring/monotonous over time if it doesn't include more color detail.  the LED display/design at the brand new downtown LYRIC CENTER PARKING GARAGE is a magnificent model of LED lighting done right...

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I'm pretty sure the building will always be white. Let's save the colored lights for commercial and medical towers.

Museums should let the art stand for itself. They will have art sculptures and water features, on the outside of the building and it shouldn't have to compete with the building.

The white will not become boring its going to be beautiful.

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59 minutes ago, bobruss said:

I'm pretty sure the building will always be white. Let's save the colored lights for commercial and medical towers.

Museums should let the art stand for itself. They will have art sculptures and water features, on the outside of the building and it shouldn't have to compete with the building.

The white will not become boring its going to be beautiful.

 

^^^ basically, your very same sentiment could also be afforded to a parking garage.  parking garages should let their purpose/art stand for itself.  they will have PORSCHES, LAMBORGHINIS, MERCEDES BENZ, ROLLS ROYCES, CADILLACS, RANGE ROVERS, as well as water features upon the outside of the garage itself, and it shouldn't have to compete with the more often than not attached building/tower.

 

of course, the building shall always be white (i guess).  however, i was only speaking on behalf of the LED LIGHTING DESIGN aspects.  we are all certainly aware of a modern-day vs classical understated elegance of typical art museums throughout this globe.  however, there is nothing "typical" regarding this particular modern-day STEVEN HOLL houston design.  in my view, this particular design reeks of the future of space city houston.  this particular edifice is minimal, futuristic, understated, and simply brilliant upon its overall effect. there is simply nothing wrong with adding a small bit of extra LED lighting detail to its repertoire.  the added color detail may be added during special moments throughout the season for symbolism and inclusivity.

 

the color white shall indeed be its mainstay design.  however, an added color detail shall only enhance its overall appeal for special moments, projects, and holidays throughout the season.       

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Please let it be a static tone.  The changing color LED lights have become a design cliché, which is way overused in my opinion. 

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On 7/6/2019 at 12:08 PM, bobruss said:

I'm pretty sure the building will always be white. Let's save the colored lights for commercial and medical towers.

Museums should let the art stand for itself. They will have art sculptures and water features, on the outside of the building and it shouldn't have to compete with the building.

The white will not become boring its going to be beautiful.

 

5 minutes ago, Naviguessor said:

Please let it be a static tone.  The changing color LED lights have become a design cliché, which is way overused in my opinion. 

 

Agree with both. Dynamic colors feels more commerical as its a type that needs as much attention as possible. A museum is already going to get that kind of attention. A museum wants to be more stately and calm. Plus its at a very prime spot in the district. Making it all kinds of crazy colors will just make it look like its trying too hard. "KISS" (Keep It Simple Stupid) isn't just for the military it also applies a lot to design.

EDIT: I will say, I'm holding judgement on the exterior for now. I was a bit put off by how wide these tubes initially looked. I really thought they were going to be a lot more slender. Right now they feel a bit...fat. Lets wait to see the full build out.

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8 minutes ago, Naviguessor said:

Please let it be a static tone.  The changing color LED lights have become a design cliché, which is way overused in my opinion. 

 

amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is just cheesy in my opinion...i always laugh when i see pools with changing lights...just looks cheap

and unfortunately the new lit/metal christmas trees along post oak will be changing colors...saw them out and testing them a couple of weeks ago!

i think plain white looks classy more than boring.

(edited to say that for events and holidays i do not mind a color element or multiple colors etc...but a static color as @Naviguessor said!) :)

 

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2 minutes ago, gene said:

 

amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is just cheesy in my opinion...i always laugh when i see pools with changing lights...just looks cheap

and unfortunately the new lit/metal christmas trees along post oak will be changing colors...saw them out and testing them a couple of weeks ago!

i think plain white looks classy more than boring.

 

 

Yeah, but thats Post Oak. That screams I WANT ATTENTION. It matches for that area. We aren't a Dallas that is flashy (which I appreciate). However, I'm tolerant of having one area in town that has that flashy identity. Museum district should have a calmer and more stately vibe.

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I think it'll be white 95% of the time, kind of like The Post Oak diamonds. Then for major events or something they can be changed. The Post Oak went red for Rockets playoff wins.

 

The only changing LED colors I support are the arches on 59/69. It adds a lot to an otherwise barren "canal" on the highway. Of course it looks bad when some of the lights go out or don't change correctly.

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I think white will get boring, but I agree totally flashy is not needed.  Perhaps keep all the tubes the same color, but have them change color once an hour (e.g, white from 9:00 to 10:00, blue from 10:00 to 11:00, green from 11:00 to 12:00, and so on).  

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I always believed that the concept of the lit structure was to backlight the big Live Oaks around the property, which I thought was a very nice move as it respects the existing beauty of the area as well as provide a gentle light to the streetscape. I just don't think that this subtle effect would work with anything other than white.    

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1 hour ago, Luminare said:

 

Yeah, but thats Post Oak. That screams I WANT ATTENTION. It matches for that area. We aren't a Dallas that is flashy (which I appreciate). However, I'm tolerant of having one area in town that has that flashy identity. Museum district should have a calmer and more stately vibe.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

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On 7/6/2019 at 10:26 AM, danielsonr said:

Yes. From Steven Holl Architects website, here is a photo of what appears to be a mock up of the lighting...

 

 

This will look great until the back lights start burning out. It doesn't appear to be designed for easy maintenance.

 

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31 minutes ago, Angostura said:

 

This will look great until the back lights start burning out. It doesn't appear to be designed for easy maintenance.

 

 

I'm sure a nearly half billion dollar project like this will think of maintenance.  

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41 minutes ago, Angostura said:

 

This will look great until the back lights start burning out. It doesn't appear to be designed for easy maintenance.

 

 

Or the white surfaces start getting stains, esp. from rainy weather.

 

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6 hours ago, Luminare said:

I will say, I'm holding judgement on the exterior for now. I was a bit put off by how wide these tubes initially looked. I really thought they were going to be a lot more slender. Right now they feel a bit...fat. Lets wait to see the full build out.

That was my initial reaction as well. The building renderings suggest more slender tubes. But, the renderings are also from a different perspective than the photos of the actual installed tubes.

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On ‎7‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 9:33 PM, jmitch94 said:

The roof is very Frank Gehry looking and I like it. 

 

It is indeed. People viewing this museum by helicopter will feel their knees wobble and their jaws drop. People visiting it on the ground will have to rely on photographs for the full effect.

 

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No, those people on the ground will be able to walk up a flight of stairs to the top of the Glassell and get pretty much the view.

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7 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

 

It is indeed. People viewing this museum by helicopter will feel their knees wobble and their jaws drop. People visiting it on the ground will have to rely on photographs for the full effect.

 

 

Lets just wait till we see the interiors of those spaces. At that maybe we can throw ropes from those helicopters to pull people up 'action hero' style.

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6 hours ago, bobruss said:

No, those people on the ground will be able to walk up a flight of stairs to the top of the Glassell and get pretty much the view.

 

Shhhh, its like the best kept secret of that area. I go up there 8pm-ish and theres barely that many people, while theres still a bunch of people milling around and looking at the statutes below. 

 

But that will be a fantastic place to see it. It looked like they had a decent part of the portion facing montrose up already, might try to snap a pic today or tomorrow.

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The views up there are spectacular, but I won't tell a soul.

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