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Lol, I was going to quote star wars with the famous line "mos eisley space port, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, we must be cautious" but it seems the writer of the article beat me to it!

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Shutting the convenience store down is a start but they really just need to find a new place for the Greyhound Station if they ever want to clean up the area. It's one of the scariest places in the city and nobody wants to go anywhere near there if they can help it. I love going to McDonalds for breakfast every once in a while but I have to deal with people on drugs walking all over the place in front of my car, not caring if they get hit or not. I wouldn't dream of actually setting foot inside. They don't call that location CrackDonald's for nothing.

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While moving the Greyhound station somewhere else would help clean up that specific area, it wouldn't fix the problem of crime around the greyhound station where ever it is located. Personally, I think it is good that it is located where it is, and I hope they do not move. As this would give people living in the area a reason to want to see things cleaned up.

Back before midtown was a cool place to be, the station was there, and you never heard about it except for when someone was shot at the mcdonalds. Move it and the crime moves with it, but we just don't hear about it, because it would probably be moved into an area where the people living there don't have as loud of a voice.

Of course, the biggest reason to not move it, is that the location is very central (arguably about as central as you can get) and has access to a lot of different modes of transportation in and around the city for people without cars (which are the primary users of Greyhound).

So, you're arguing to move it, rather than fix the problem so that people who live in midtown can forget the crime that occurs in/around the greyhound station (wherever it is moved to). How about pushing for greyhound to donate some money to the city, specifically for the police dept, with the expectation that more cops hang around the area? Or push Greyhound to hire security? Or push them to at least install security cameras in the area. There's lots of solutions to a problem without saying "I don't like the crime, please move it". which is what you said really came off sounding like. I'm sure that wasn't your meaning though!

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If the Greyhound really is the problem, it doesn't seem as though this property owner/operator is to blame. All I know is that most times I've walked or driven by this property, the police seem to be around interrogating someone.

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The one thing I always think about the Greyhound station is years ago, Conan O'brien was in town for some reason and was at the station about 2 in the morning doing his show. He turned to the camera and said, "I think I'm going to be killed." I think it was the only time I have ever laughed at anything on his show.

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If the Greyhound really is the problem, it doesn't seem as though this property owner/operator is to blame. All I know is that most times I've walked or driven by this property, the police seem to be around interrogating someone.

well, I'm running off the assumption that if the greyhound station was moved, the crime in the area would go away. So it's assumed that greyhound maybe isn't causing the problem themselves, the problem revolves around them.

Anyway, to make a dig at McDonalds more than anything else, eating breakfast there is probably just as dangerous to your health as hanging around the greyhound station. ;)

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Someone on this forum once suggested beautifying the area with a new landscape plan for the station. I think this is a really good idea. It is a somewhat inexpensive way to change the aesthetics of the area, and if the station does move evenutally, it's not like a ton of money was poured into the upgrade.

I will present this idea to the midtown board. it will not do away with the crime, which is the main issue, but i think it will help create a better ambiance for the area.

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How exactly is the Texaco gas station any different from any other gas station in Midtown?

They don't shoo vagrants or stop dealers from loitering at the Shell on Travis/Hadley or the Cheveron at Bagby/Hadley.

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Also how do you suggest designing the landscaping?

Having lived in the area for more than a year now I can tell you that the dealers and users will use the planters to hide/ditch drugs. FYI, never stick your hands into a street planter you might get stuck with a needle.

Perhaps a simplistic approach like the bald cypresses along Pierce St. or Louisiana St.?

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completely off topic, but I just had images of a bunch of plants going through withdrawal. I shouldn't have watched trainspotting this weekend.

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How exactly is the Texaco gas station any different from any other gas station in Midtown?

They don't shoo vagrants or stop dealers from loitering at the Shell on Travis/Hadley or the Cheveron at Bagby/Hadley.

i was talking about the greyhound station. ya, it won't shoo any vagrants but for now the station is here to stay and it looks hideous. not sure what the options are to fix that.

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24-hour check cashing place

title max car title loans

game room

touristas americanos

money wire transfer service

am i missing something?

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Damn a nice mixed use development would be nice here, we need a way to close this place, any ideas?

I've got some great ideas. ;)

Maybe some kind of fence and offical looking signs. That should close it off. :)

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Damn a nice mixed use development would be nice here, we need a way to close this place, any ideas?

Get a job as the nightshift manager, they always have keys.

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Perhaps HPD should rent the space and make a satellite station.

Sorry for the out of character serious response!

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I reiterate that the gas station is just a symptom of the area. I haven't seen any accusations that the station owner is involved in any illegal dealings. It seems like the city expects some gas station owner to hire an entire security team to make sure nothing shady is going on in their parking lot. This is a completely unreasonable expectation that no other gas station has to suffer. If HPD says there are too many fights or drug deals going down in the area, they should increase patrols or set up some undercover buy busts. It's not reasonable to expect a business owner to have to go out and stand toe to toe with every brawler, junkie, or dealer. That's what police are for.

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Perhaps HPD should rent the space and make a satellite station.

Sorry for the out of character serious response!

LOL hilarious!

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