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my bad, Marq*E. i agree, a suburban entertainment destination isn't the most ideal draw for downtown, but it was more to give an idea of the type of attractions (maybe geared more towards the young professional crowd with just a lesser amount geared towards family oriented stuff, since as you mention, the demographics of the area aren't really family friendly, but we still want to appeal to tourists), and at the time i couldn't think of any better/more urban examples. i guess the question here is, are we trying to make downtown a destination, or do we just want it to be another average neighborhood? its not just about the people living downtown, its about making downtown an attraction in itself. i don't think many tourist travel to Houston to visit the tourist Mecca that is the Heights. or any other random ITL neighborhood with average amenities. not that they come to Houston to visit places like the MarqE or Main Event. its just something entertaining for the whole family, for those staying at the hotels downtown or living in the inner city. as for not being able to support that type of thing or not being room, GreenStreet is basically an urban format MarqE. with that said i guess they could push what little retail remains out onto Dallas St and make GS more of an entertainment destination.

on a side note. anyone ever been to a WonderWorks? a surprisingly fun filled learning experience for the whole family.

http://www.marqehouston.com

http://www.wonderworksonline.com

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I believe that the success of Discovery Green disproves the assertion that DT isn't 'family oriented'. Many of the scheduled events in addition to the water features, seasonal ice skating and play areas are definitely child/family focused and packed with children and families on weekdays (school field trips) and weekends.

 

What I love about DG is the multigenerational appeal of the place.  There is something for everyone and speaks to one of Houston's strengths....its diversity.  IMO, Discovery Green is vibrant because it doesn't cater to one single group (e.g, young professionals).

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my bad, Marq*E. i agree, a suburban entertainment destination isn't the most ideal draw for downtown, but it was more to give an idea of the type of attractions (maybe geared more towards the young professional crowd with just a lesser amount geared towards family oriented stuff, since as you mention, the demographics of the area aren't really family friendly, but we still want to appeal to tourists), and at the time i couldn't think of any better/more urban examples. i guess the question here is, are we trying to make downtown a destination, or do we just want it to be another average neighborhood? its not just about the people living downtown, its about making downtown an attraction in itself. i don't think many tourist travel to Houston to visit the tourist Mecca that is the Heights. or any other random ITL neighborhood with average amenities. not that they come to Houston to visit places like the MarqE or Main Event. its just something entertaining for the whole family, for those staying at the hotels downtown or living in the inner city. as for not being able to support that type of thing or not being room, GreenStreet is basically an urban format MarqE. with that said i guess they could push what little retail remains out onto Dallas St and make GS more of an entertainment destination.

on a side note. anyone ever been to a WonderWorks? a surprisingly fun filled learning experience for the whole family.

http://www.marqehouston.com

http://www.wonderworksonline.com

Downtown has options geared towards to the young professional crowd. Awesome restaurants and bars! :P

Edit: sorry cloud I'm not exclusively picking on you.

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UHD is a 4 year college and rumored to be adding housing soon.

 

When the new light rail lines open, I'd expect a small bump in the number of UH and TSU kids who hit up downtown. Rice is just too small to make much of an impact, especially considering how few Rice students venture outside the hedge bubble.

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ha, no worries Montrose. 

while the restaurants and bars are great, i was thinking more entertainment/relaxation options, to get away from the office or whatever, like maybe a small (indoor?) Pitch and Putt course with a few holes going back and forth across part of a block, an underground Gun Range (connected to the tunnel system would be legit, depending on the location of said development), a smaller scale Dave & Busters type arcade bar concept, but instead of winning crappy prizes, you can exchange your tickets for drinks (please don't steal this idea, lol. hell, if anyone can make it happen I'm down to go in on it with them. i realize it could be a pretty legit bar concept in practically any semi urban environment, heh). then obviously something like a small scale modern movie theater.

eh. Texasota. IMO Sunset Coffee Building was downtowns one chance at having any sort of a real museum. unless its arts or something, but i quite like the way our Museum District is clustered currently.

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I like our cluster of museums too, and they are easily accessible via PT, but I just wish it was closer.

As for UHD, it is an open admissions college where very few attendees graduate in 4 yrs, there are no legitimate teams and no on campus residents. In other words it is very transient. It is like any other commercial building downtown and when I mentioned a 4 yrs college downtown I was thinking more of atmosphere than merely getting a degree.

Bars we are good on. Restaurants in many areas are still required. After two pm many areas are dead zones for food.

But yeah, we need more for the everyday, man, woman or child.

take ATL for example. They are a smaller metro, smaller downtown, far less downtown work force but in downtown or the environs there is the Georgia dome, huge Georgia aquarium, Olympic park and MLK museum, and a huge university presence.

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I think a satellite museum for the MFAH would be great downtown in the theater district, or over by the convention center.

Perhaps in the first floor of the Stream Essex building if that ever gets built.

It would be a great tease for the main Museum and give convention visitors easy access to a sampling of the arts.

I also think that they could share with the Menil and the Natural Science Museum and have a rotating schedule dividing up the year

between them for rotating shows.

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Speaking of exhibitions there is a group show opening tomorrow night at Williams Tower featuring some of Houston best.

I'm included and I'd love to see some Haifers there. I'll be showing a large new work on paper intitled

"Sprawl".

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Speaking of exhibitions there is a group show opening tomorrow night at Williams Tower featuring some of Houston best.

I'm included and I'd love to see some Haifers there. I'll be showing a large new work on paper intitled

"Sprawl".

 

WOW awesome and congrats....i can walk across the street to it! can you give me more details? time/where to check in etc?

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Do they work on this at night? And just being curious about how many workers are on this project during a day?  

the last item that i referenced in regards to the workers, were that there were over a thousand + employed as per this project.  yes, they are working day / night shifts.  i am not abreast of the personnel shift allocations.

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^^^ If only TxDot would do the same...

Tell me about it. When I go home from campus (UH) I have to go through the entirety of 290 construction. God those lanes are narrow, it also does not help that I drive a Ram 1500...

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They've been working on just the 290/610 area for at least 5 or 6 years now. Ridiculous...

 

ummmm no? I drive this everyday. If you are talking about the 290 to 10 ramp yeah that was done about a year ago, but the bulk of the work has been done over the past year. I know it doesn't sound as ridiculous as 5-6years but this has only been going on for 1 1/2 - 2 years.

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I remember the interchange at 290/610 being worked on when I first moved to Houston 3 years ago.

 

ummmm no? I drive this everyday. If you are talking about the 290 to 10 ramp yeah that was done about a year ago, but the bulk of the work has been done over the past year. I know it doesn't sound as ridiculous as 5-6years but this has only been going on for 1 1/2 - 2 years.

 

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The part of 610 between Ella and 290 has had ongoing construction since at least 2009 (and I think 2008). I remember a buddy of mine moving to North Dakota in 2009, and then calling me in 2011 and asking if that area was still under construction...and when I said "yeah," I could practically see him over the phone shaking his head. It's still not even close to being finished.

 

The 610/I-10/290 interchange had its groundbreaking during the mega-drought in late July, 2011. The 290 to I-10 ramp was just completed a few months ago.

 

http://www.guidrynews.com/11Gazette/21311August1Gazette.pdf

 

Traffic has been backed up to and from 45 just about every day for hours because of this crap...there is absolutely no legitimate reason why it should take this long to finish this project, and many others around town for that matter.

 

Sorry for derailing this thread...just wanted to clarify that.

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The part of 610 between Ella and 290 has had ongoing construction since at least 2009 (and I think 2008). I remember a buddy of mine moving to North Dakota in 2009, and then calling me in 2011 and asking if that area was still under construction...and when I said "yeah," I could practically see him over the phone shaking his head. It's still not even close to being finished.

 

The 610/I-10/290 interchange had its groundbreaking during the mega-drought in late July, 2011. The 290 to I-10 ramp was just completed a few months ago.

 

http://www.guidrynews.com/11Gazette/21311August1Gazette.pdf

 

Traffic has been backed up to and from 45 just about every day for hours because of this crap...there is absolutely no legitimate reason why it should take this long to finish this project, and many others around town for that matter.

 

Sorry for derailing this thread...just wanted to clarify that.

 

This part is non debatable :P That whole section of 610 from 290 to TC Jester and to Ella has been under continuous construction for a few years but that was part of the 610 reconstruction and subsequent prep construction for the 610/290 buildout.

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Do the tall floors at the lower level count as one floor or two? That's a massive building and it's still got several floors to go.

can you just imagine how imposing this hotel tower is going to become, once is surpasses hess tower?  wow, just wow!

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I don't think the Marriott Marquis is planned to surpass the height of Hess Tower. 

well, actually it may not harbor much of a choice, especially since the hess tower stands at 29 floors (490'ft).  marriott marquis, is now projected to rise at 30 floors (we shall soon see the actual ft total).  but i'm clearly betting that the marriott wins..... 

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well, actually it may not harbor much of a choice, especially since the hess tower stands at 29 floors (490'ft).  marriott marquis, is now projected to rise at 30 floors (we shall soon see the actual ft total).  but i'm clearly betting that the marriott wins..... 

 

I'll take that bet.   ;)

 

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