Houston19514 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) The pdf says that completion would be early 2016. Just in time to have the Final Four as the first event.Which pdf says that? The pdf Lockmat linked says the target opening is May 2016. (But as I said above, I think we'll see the construction start and opening both significantly earlier than those "target dates".) Edited December 13, 2012 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Note the two open topics on the second convention center hotel have been merged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Which pdf says that? The pdf Lockmat linked says the target opening is May 2016. (But as I said above, I think we'll see the construction start and opening both significantly earlier than those "target dates".)I was referring to Lockmat's linked pdf. May is early...ish. I would love to see it open significantly earlier though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) NM Edited December 14, 2012 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golyadkin Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I just tried to line up a picture from Google streetview with the rendering, and this was about as close as I got:Rendering:http://assets5.pinimg.com/upload/133489576426675039_ZuFsGpWk.jpgStreetview:http://goo.gl/maps/Qw63VOne thing that I didn't notice before and that I hadn't seen mentioned (sorry if it has been and I missed it) is that it appears that this, like the Hilton Americas, will have a skyway connecting to the GRB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I just tried to line up a picture from Google streetview with the rendering, and this was about as close as I got:Rendering:http://assets5.pinim...39_ZuFsGpWk.jpgStreetview:http://goo.gl/maps/Qw63VOne thing that I didn't notice before and that I hadn't seen mentioned (sorry if it has been and I missed it) is that it appears that this, like the Hilton Americas, will have a skyway connecting to the GRB.The hotel will have a skyway to the garage that will go next to the GRB, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The hotel will have a skyway to the garage that will go next to the GRB, too.Two skyways? I thought we wanted Avenida de las Americas to be a nice boulevard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Two skyways? I thought we wanted Avenida de las Americas to be a nice boulevard.You know, I think I'm wrong on that. I thought there was another skyway somewhere, but that doesn't sound right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I just tried to line up a picture from Google streetview with the rendering, and this was about as close as I got:Rendering:http://assets5.pinim...39_ZuFsGpWk.jpgStreetview:http://goo.gl/maps/Qw63VOne thing that I didn't notice before and that I hadn't seen mentioned (sorry if it has been and I missed it) is that it appears that this, like the Hilton Americas, will have a skyway connecting to the GRB.Cool. Thanks for the streetview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Just an observation but it looks like they will do away with the hill on the corner of Avenida and McKinney in Discovery Green for something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asubrt Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Per Nancy, the hotel is going to be 30 stories tall.These renderings show the proposed 30-story convention center hotel proposed for a site just north of Discovery Green.http://blog.chron.co...-million-hotel/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 if you zoom into the El Paso pan handle of the pool, it looks like it extends a little bit over the edge - pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 For those interested, this new hotel will be 6 stories taller than Hilton Americas and 7 stories shorter than 1 Park Place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) Culturemap has an image not posted here, yet. As someone else noted, I believe, the plan shows to put a building at the NE corner of DG, which that space and the one below it are probably not used much compared to other areas of the park. ...an open public plaza across from Discovery Green will mark the hotel entrance rather than a dark vehicle drop-off zone. "We've decided to design the hotel from the ground level up, making sure the busy public area will connect with the park both visually and literally. The building will have activity on all four corners with a sports bar, coffee shop, restaurant and possibly a local retail space." http://houston.cultu...-an-urban-look/ Also note the yellowish space in front of the Hess garage. Hopefully that'll be at least an apartment midrise. Edited December 18, 2012 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Also note the yellowish space in front of the Hess garage. Hopefully that'll be at least an apartment midrise. Or not. Please tell me a one-story retail strip center in the middle of downtown is not their plan: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Or not. Please tell me a one-story retail strip center in the middle of downtown is not their plan:I was just thinking that the space left by the garage really isn't enough space for a midrise. It is a really narrow strip of land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Or not. Please tell me a one-story retail strip center in the middle of downtown is not their plan: haha! I'll take it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 i think it's pretty clear that yellow indicates retail and i agree w fatesdisatr that it really is a tiny strip of land; don't think anything else would really be feasible. it'd be nice if it went 2-3 stories up and had a rooftop restaurant/bar, though... seems like a good location for something like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) I believe That space was left specifically for the purpose of residential development, in accordance with the downtown vision or master plan... You can see it on some of the master plan renderings.I believe That space was left specifically for the purpose of residential development, in accordance with the GRB Master Plan, and in earlier master plans as well. The GRB Master plan shows a building that appears to be about 7 stories. Edited December 18, 2012 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 If they put a one story building there that will be ridiculous. There is enough room there for atleast a midrise. A high rise if its done properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golyadkin Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I suspect nothing specific is planned for that site, and they just colored it in on the map to indicated that they plan to eventually put something there, and the rendering only includes a single-story building because the guy doing the rendering didn't know what to put there and decided to go with the least obtrusive thing he could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Honestly I'd be satisfied with a one story retail center there. It's better than a parking lot and there are many other larger parking lots that I'd rather fill in with a highrise/midrise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I'd rather them put grass and a couple of trees than a suburban strip center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister X Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 It's only a suburban strip center if it has a parking lot in front of it. I don't see one. It looks pretty urban to me. Short, but urban. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I believe That space was left specifically for the purpose of residential development, in accordance with the downtown vision or master plan... You can see it on some of the master plan renderings. I believe That space was left specifically for the purpose of residential development, in accordance with the GRB Master Plan, and in earlier master plans as well. The GRB Master plan shows a building that appears to be about 7 stories. http://www.houstonfirst.com/ConventionDistrictRenderings.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Would be nice to have that but I have a hard time picturing a building meant for residential fitting on this parcel of land. Of course I am sure I'd be wrong. Also the current plans for the convention center hotel is much much better than this one. The new pool owns over the rectangular one this one was portraying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) http://www.bisnow.co...trict-makeover/"The hotel will feature multiple restaurants...""we can expect groundbreaking around the end of Q1 ’14. Construction will take about 26 months, with opening in mid-2016""Besides the hotel, it’s building an 1,800-car garage to serve the Marriott Marquis and GRB, and it’s on the market with a 110k SF tract. Houston First COO of hotels Peter McStravick and John Harris tell us they want that site to go to a mixed-use developer and, in particular, get retail and residential uses. Peter says Houston First has a quick timeline for the site; they want it to be developed in conjunction with the hotel."There's a good picture in the link with the location of all the upcoming developments:"Now, consult your paint by number chart and let's color this in. Peter broke down activity in the convention center district for us in this helpful map. 1 is the Marriott Marquis. 2 is owned by HISD and will be a high school for visual and performing arts, and the western half of block 3 may become a limited-service hotel. 4 is Houston First’s tract (1.5 blocks) and 5 is the site of the new garage. 6 will house the Nau Center for Texas Cultural Heritage, and 7 (two blocks) will be the Finger Cos’ eight-story tower. The light rail expansion running along Capitol and Rusk will complete in August 2014, and Houston First recently expanded the sidewalks and added trees along Crawford." Edited January 8, 2013 by DrLan34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog08 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Seems we will have 5 surface lots gone if these developments all come to fruition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecar(a.f.f.) Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Trammel Crow appears serious about plans for new GRB hotel downtown. New rendering below, multi-family speculated for block north of hotel. Does anybody have specifics about the hotel?  April '12 Chron blog post (http://goo.gl/zKop1).  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/25891-another-new-grb-convention-center-hotel-residential-retail/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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