College Football 2011

[sowanome]

exactly and the personal experience doesn't hurt either ...This week will be interesting since there are a lot somewhat obvious picks. Any upset predicitons other than A&M or possibly LSU (Warning: WVU doesn't really run the ball so they may struggle a bit)?

did Biff give you the Gray's Sports Almanac back in high school??

[20thStDad]

If WVU had issues with Maryland, I'm not that worried about this week. They might score.

[The Pragmatist]

I think the Aggies must be self-loathing at times. With displays like that nightmare, I don't know what to think about the game in Norman.

[Highway6]

senior QB jinx continues... Tanny couldn't settle down and stop screwing up 2nd half.... Though the last pick that sealed it was just a good play on Fuller by the corner, the pass was fine.

Third game in a row we've come out lackadaisical in the 3rd... that's gotta be on the coaches.

Season aint over.. but damn that sucks.

[The Pragmatist]

senior QB jinx continues... Tanny couldn't settle down and stop screwing up 2nd half.... Though the last pick that sealed it was just a good play on Fuller by the corner, the pass was fine.

Third game in a row we've come out lackadaisical in the 3rd... that's gotta be on the coaches.

Season aint over.. but damn that sucks.

Yeah, the D also couldn't keep up the pace in the 3rd, getting caught off guard almost every play. Tannehill's interceptions and that fumble by McNeal did nothing to help the defense out, giving them no time to even rest. I was just gritting my teeth the entire time. Hey, at least they looked good in the first half. Here's to hoping the team will learn from this one and use it as motivation to beat Arkansas.

[20thStDad]

It's just more evidence that A&M will never really matter, especially in the SEC. They can look forward to the yearly competition for the best team with red-ish colors in the SEC west, but they are not going to matter on a national level. This was a big time game. They had a big time lead and totally folded in the 2nd half. Get a stadium that has seating all the way around, then come try to be big time.

[RedScare]

Says the guy whose team chokes to Arky every time the game matters.

[The Pragmatist]

It's just more evidence that A&M will never really matter, especially in the SEC. They can look forward to the yearly competition for the best team with red-ish colors in the SEC west, but they are not going to matter on a national level. This was a big time game. They had a big time lead and totally folded in the 2nd half. Get a stadium that has seating all the way around, then come try to be big time.

You never know what will happen in the future. In the near-term, A&M will not be in championship talks, but things can change. Certain teams rise while others fall. A few remain relatively consistent, but they have all had down periods and up periods. As of right now, your Tigers look bound for a BCS game and are strong contenders for the NC. They've demonstrated they're a great team this year, but that doesn't tell me where they'll be in 10-15 years. And the stadium comment would seem to have no bearing on whatever point you were trying to make. If I remember, the plan is to enclose the field and expand it to 115,000 or so, but that takes a lot of money. If the program continues to improve, that will become more of a reality. I'll just have to watch and hope for the best as this year goes on for the Aggies.

I am still not certain what to make of the move to the SEC, but I'm sure A&M can eventually find some footing in the conference. The team may not be a perennial contender, but I'm certain it will have its successes. Only time will tell.

[RedScare]

20th Street is like every LSU fan I've ever met (except for one). They all have amnesia prior to the year 2000. To hear them tell it, they've been the Nick Saban/Les Miles Tigers forever. But, ask them to actually look at the swamp kitties record for the 25 years prior to Saban's arrival, and you'll find that they struggled to win 6 games per year. Yes, add it up, 165 wins in 26 years equals 6.3 wins per year. If LSU can recover from a quarter century of suck and win a MNC, I have no doubt that the Aggies can as well.

Besides, since 2009, A&M has a better record versus top 10 teams (2-1) than LSU (2-4).

[Highway6]

It's official... Ags are in the SEC. Suck it 20th.

http://www.tamu.edu/...nouncement.html

http://www.secdigita...conference.aspx

Your record attendance is only 3000 more than ours.... Try adding a few 3rd decks.

PS... Looks like we all pretty much kicked ass in the pick'em this week. No big changes in the standings if any.

Edited September 25, 2011 by Highway6

[KinkaidAlum]

The biggest news of the weekend?

UH sold out for Georgia State. Sure, there were some no shows, but the place was rocking, the students were out in full force, and red was everywhere. Oh, and the Coogs pitched their first shutout since 1999.

Just a few short years ago, this game would have drawn 13,000.

[DistribAire P.E.]

looks like Im getting better at this pick-em thing. however I expect this weekend to be an epic failure, alot of close matchups.

[sowanome]

looks like Im getting better at this pick-em thing. however I expect this weekend to be an epic failure, alot of close matchups.

I agree, tough matchups this week. There only seems to be 1-2 locks and the others all up in air!

[20thStDad]

Says the guy whose team chokes to Arky every time the game matters.

Yeah, and says this all the time. There aren't any rose-colored glasses here. I already predicted we will lose 2 stupid games this year, and my guesses are Tennessee and Arkansas, ones that we should win.

You never know what will happen in the future. In the near-term, A&M will not be in championship talks, but things can change. Certain teams rise while others fall. A few remain relatively consistent, but they have all had down periods and up periods. As of right now, your Tigers look bound for a BCS game and are strong contenders for the NC. They've demonstrated they're a great team this year, but that doesn't tell me where they'll be in 10-15 years. And the stadium comment would seem to have no bearing on whatever point you were trying to make. If I remember, the plan is to enclose the field and expand it to 115,000 or so, but that takes a lot of money. If the program continues to improve, that will become more of a reality. I'll just have to watch and hope for the best as this year goes on for the Aggies.

I am still not certain what to make of the move to the SEC, but I'm sure A&M can eventually find some footing in the conference. The team may not be a perennial contender, but I'm certain it will have its successes. Only time will tell.

Things do change, and have changed. But A&M isn't there now. They were right there, so close, but couldn't get it done.

20th Street is like every LSU fan I've ever met (except for one). They all have amnesia prior to the year 2000. To hear them tell it, they've been the Nick Saban/Les Miles Tigers forever. But, ask them to actually look at the swamp kitties record for the 25 years prior to Saban's arrival, and you'll find that they struggled to win 6 games per year. Yes, add it up, 165 wins in 26 years equals 6.3 wins per year. If LSU can recover from a quarter century of suck and win a MNC, I have no doubt that the Aggies can as well.

Besides, since 2009, A&M has a better record versus top 10 teams (2-1) than LSU (2-4).

I'm nothing like that, not sure where you are getting that from. I was at games in the early 90s and late 90s. I watched us move up to #6 and then lose the last 8 games of the year. But 10 years is a long time to be relevant, and it's been that long for us (Sugar Bowl 2001 and beyond). It's been a hell of a decade. Don't act like 2 sugar bowl wins and 2 national championships isn't as good as it gets. If you would have told me we would do all of that in my lifetime I never would have believed it (see previous note about suffering through every bit of the 90s). Don't paint me like some short-sighted pro-SEC idiot, I'm very far from that. I hate all this pro-SEC talk, I think it's idiotic. The SEC has 2 good teams this year, the rest are the same as anyone else. I am tired of hearing the SEC chants and hearing the writers talk about it being the best conference by far. Name any team but us and bama right now, and they could easily lose to a middle of the pack team in any other conference. They might not, but they easily could.

It's official... Ags are in the SEC. Suck it 20th.

http://www.tamu.edu/...nouncement.html

http://www.secdigita...conference.aspx

Your record attendance is only 3000 more than ours.... Try adding a few 3rd decks.

PS... Looks like we all pretty much kicked ass in the pick'em this week. No big changes in the standings if any.

Sorry, why do I have to suck it? Welcome to the SEC, I guess. Should be fun to play you every year, I'm sure it'll happen. Personally, I don't want that. I like being in Texas, mostly insulated from fans of the schools we always play. If we lose, I don't want to hear garbage from those other fans. I don't talk garbage to them. I'm a cynical fan, always have been. This is due to the crap we went through for years and years. Being up on Auburn by 24 in the 4th, only to have Jamie Howard throw some pick-6's and it all go to crap. Mike Archer, Josh Booty, it's all etched in my memory, never to return. I am more critical of LSU than those who hate on us.

As far as attendance...your enrollment is 50% more than ours. Congrats on your stadium not even being a closed oval. We completed ours all the way around about 50 years ago. I've heard those 3rd tier seats might as well come with binoculars, so I'm not interested in that kind of junk.

[RedScare]

I agree with you. The Aggie love affair with all things SEC is grating on my nerves. Rooting for all SEC teams? Excuse me? I've hated Bammer my entire life, and the SEC contract A&M signed does not obligate me to root for those gumps. I'm actually a fan of LSU. My only point is that LSU rose from a dreadful past, and A&M can too. In fact, in the modern college football era, (since 1974, when scholarship limits were imposed), A&M actually has a better record than LSU. So, it CAN happen. But it won't for several years, at least. Moving to a conference that demands your best effort every week will actually help. Being in the best conference will also attract the best coaches, if we decide Sherman isn't getting it done.

Meanwhile, I will be passing you in the HAIF Challenge standings this week.

[20thStDad]

I agree with you. The Aggie love affair with all things SEC is grating on my nerves. Rooting for all SEC teams? Excuse me? I've hated Bammer my entire life, and the SEC contract A&M signed does not obligate me to root for those gumps. I'm actually a fan of LSU. My only point is that LSU rose from a dreadful past, and A&M can too. In fact, in the modern college football era, (since 1974, when scholarship limits were imposed), A&M actually has a better record than LSU. So, it CAN happen. But it won't for several years, at least. Moving to a conference that demands your best effort every week will actually help. Being in the best conference will also attract the best coaches, if we decide Sherman isn't getting it done.

Meanwhile, I will be passing you in the HAIF Challenge standings this week.

Don't use me as the bar for college pick-em, I have consistently proven incapable of picking with my brain. Can't help it, CFB is an emotional thing.

I'm not one of the SEC homers either. I don't generally root for the other SEC teams (except maybe against USC, ND, Ohio St, and other nationally annoying teams). I could care less if they win, if we do our thing we will be good. Bama can lose every week, I hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee, Arkansas is a pain in my ass (see: recent history). I kind of pull for Florida sometimes, I've never really figured out why. I guess they were fun to watch when we weren't. There's no reason to care about anything in Mississippi. Georgia is like the Wisconsin of the SEC, all the hype and none of the actual accomplishment.

There is a long list of teams that aren't quite there that could be. It usually comes down to luck and coaches. A&M has the resources to do it, or not. We could be garbage in 5 years. That's how it goes in CFB. That's why I'm pretty damn happy with the last decade. I doubt we have another one like it in my lifetime.

[Highway6]

I agree with you. The Aggie love affair with all things SEC is grating on my nerves. Rooting for all SEC teams? Excuse me? I've hated Bammer my entire life, and the SEC contract A&M signed does not obligate me to root for those gumps.

The honeymoon will be over once this football season ends. No biggie.

Don't use me as the bar for college pick-em, I have consistently proven incapable of picking with my brain. Can't help it, CFB is an emotional thing.

Concur. My love for A&M and hatred for ND has given me a 1-3 record on those games. I'm incapable of picking ND to win one or Ags to lose one.

[The Pragmatist]

And it happens again... sigh.

[sowanome]

A&M disgusts me....BTW i'm a badger and picked nebraska but I feel like Wisconsin could be on the same path as A&M b/c they haven't played anyone. Pray for me

[20thStDad]

I don't think Nebraska is for real this year. They can't beat Wisconsin (who I think is the best of a bad big 10).

Aggies, huh. I think we should employ a relegation two-tier system like soccer in England. Relegate teams that don't get it done to a lesser conference. C-USA would love that, gives their teams a chance to play in a BCS conference if they get it done.

[sowanome]

I don't think Nebraska is for real this year. They can't beat Wisconsin (who I think is the best of a bad big 10).

Aggies, huh. I think we should employ a relegation two-tier system like soccer in England. Relegate teams that don't get it done to a lesser conference. C-USA would love that, gives their teams a chance to play in a BCS conference if they get it done.

I'm in agreement about the two-tier system as this would eliminate the "We are too small to play and we are too big to fail!"

BTW, I think this is a down year in college fball for the 2nd year in a row...it all started w/a weak bama team that beat texas, followed by a one-hit wonder of Auburn. I say this as I watch so called #10 ranked s.carolina struggle with Auburn.GROSS

Edited October 1, 2011 by sowanome

[lockmat]

I'm in agreement about the two-tier system as this would eliminate the "We are too small to play and we are too big to fail!"

BTW, I think this is a down year in college fball for the 2nd year in a row...it all started w/a weak bama team that beat texas, followed by a one-hit wonder of Auburn. I say this as I watch so called #10 ranked s.carlino struggle with Auburn.GROSS

SEC? You need to be watching Baylor's Griffin right now. Guy's a beast.

[sowanome]

SEC? You need to be watching Baylor's Griffin right now. Guy's a beast.

Can't disagree, S. Carolina is overrated and Auburn are the " TERRIBLE TIGERS ". I hope that Florida/BAMA save the day

FYI..I picked K-State

Edited October 1, 2011 by sowanome

[RedScare]

SEC? You need to be watching Baylor's Griffin right now. Guy's a beast.

Not anymore, he's not.

As for the Aggies, when does the AP 1st Half Top 25 rankings come out?

[20thStDad]

Well, we all sucked this week but I gained a little ground due to some regional bias, A&M and Nebraska and what not. Actually all but 2 of the group took Wisconsin. I had ND at a 9, and I feel dirty about being right. Take Nebraska this week with confidence, Ohio State has literally been garbage this year. Then again, Nebraska has too.

[brijonmang]

It appears I missed the pick 'em this year. I apologize to whoever will place last this year for not taking on that role myself.

On another note, I know we have a lot of aggies on this board...any of you guys still plan on making the trip to Lubbock this weekend?? I'll make sure to greet you with a firm handshake and a beer, after that I don't know you until after the game.

[DistribAire P.E.]

It appears I missed the pick 'em this year. I apologize to whoever will place last this year for not taking on that role myself.

On another note, I know we have a lot of aggies on this board...any of you guys still plan on making the trip to Lubbock this weekend?? I'll make sure to greet you with a firm handshake and a beer, after that I don't know you until after the game.

awesome, guess Im not the only raider on the board!

[20thStDad]

No chatter today? I have an excuse, I was in E TX at a family reunion. Fun day, at least for my Tigers.

As for the pick 'em, I find it very odd that we all picked Tennessee. All low confidence, but they're hardly a big favorite. In fact, aside from 1 guy taking TT, we all have the same picks for the remaining 5 games. I don't feel like doing math, but confidence numbers will likely allow for movement in the weekly top score. I'm not doing so hot with Tennessee and Nebraska. Nebraska has proven to be garbage this year. but so has Ohio St, dammit. Not my fault.

[sowanome]

No chatter today? I have an excuse, I was in E TX at a family reunion. Fun day, at least for my Tigers.

As for the pick 'em, I find it very odd that we all picked Tennessee. All low confidence, but they're hardly a big favorite. In fact, aside from 1 guy taking TT, we all have the same picks for the remaining 5 games. I don't feel like doing math, but confidence numbers will likely allow for movement in the weekly top score. I'm not doing so hot with Tennessee and Nebraska. Nebraska has proven to be garbage this year. but so has Ohio St, dammit. Not my fault.

I was depending on Nebraska w/9 so I'm dead if they don't pull it off. Ohio state is terrible which is why I put 9 on Nebraska. Also, what was all of the Hype about Florida?

Anyone predicting an OU/Bama ntl. title game following a Stanford/Wisc game which will ultimately lead us into a playoff discussion assuming all are undefeated?

Edited October 9, 2011 by sowanome

[Highway6]

Anyone predicting an OU/Bama ntl. title game following a Stanford/Wisc game which will ultimately lead us into a playoff discussion assuming all are undefeated?

I think the winner of LSU/Bama will be the de facto SEC winner and in the Championship game.

I think the Aggies don't stand much a chance in Norman, so Bedlam, OU vs OSU should be between two unbeatens.

OSU is looking dominant and they'll probably have 2 more ranked games - Baylor and Kstate before playing OU last game of the season.. I see them jumping Wisconsin, Stanford and Boise if they win out.

Techtards spray painted our team busses and spread dog poop inside them. When I was a student, it was a given that there would be problems, physical altercations, when visiting Tech on game day. Good riddance assholes clowns....

Edited October 9, 2011 by Highway6

[20thStDad]

I think the winner of LSU/Bama will be the de facto SEC winner and in the Championship game.

I think the Aggies don't stand much a chance in Norman, so Bedlam, OU vs OSU should be between two unbeatens.

OSU is looking dominant and they'll probably have 2 more ranked games - Baylor and Kstate before playing OU last game of the season.. I see them jumping Wisconsin, Stanford and Boise if they win out.

Techtards spray painted our team busses and spread dog poop inside them. When I was a student, it was a given that there would be problems, physical altercations, when visiting Tech on game day. Good riddance assholes clowns....

Bama can lose more than just the LSU game, their offense is young, if they get down they will probably struggle to catch up. The problem is getting up on their defense, it would probably have to be a defensive score or two. I just hope Stanford loses and Wisconsin loses. If LSU or bama has 1 loss I think they deserve a shot more than Stanford or Wisconsin, because neither of them played anyone. That's what we're stuck with in this system. but this year of all years would be an awesome 8 team bracket to watch. Any one of the top 5 or 6 could come out of that.

[sowanome]

. I just hope Stanford loses and Wisconsin loses. If LSU or bama has 1 loss I think they deserve a shot more than Stanford or Wisconsin, because neither of them played anyone.

Who has Bama or LSU played? WVU, Penn State and Oregon...Two of those 3 teams rely on gimmicky offenses and Oregon is only good at the Mid-Late Season point because their Offense requires weeks of game reps (Look at how Oregon or any team in Ntl. game after weeks off....again look at Oregon in game 1 after a summer off against no competition.) and they look like they are playing a style of Canadian football. Add Penn State..They have a solid defense but can't score on anyone and barely beat Iowa.

There's no way that a 1 loss LSU or Florida "Deserves" anything, which is why there are 3 major conferences that now have conf. championship games vs. 2 conf, (i.e. SEC and Big 12). So, if Stanford losses to 1 game but beats Oregon in Conference Championship, should they also "Deserve" a shot ? (They'd be able to say they beat Oregon just like a 1 loss LSU team)

Sorry 20th st., I find it hard to believe that BAMA won't prevail over your tigers and won't go undefeated because LSU's offense is suspect and hasn't played one real defense yet. Maybe I will be eating my words soon, but oh well.

Edited October 9, 2011 by sowanome

[Golyadkin]

So what are everyone's thoughts on University of Houston being the only undefeated team in Texas now? And being ranked as the #2 team in Texas, one spot behind UT?

[20thStDad]

Who has Bama or LSU played? WVU, Penn State and Oregon...Two of those 3 teams rely on gimmicky offenses and Oregon is only good at the Mid-Late Season point because their Offense requires weeks of game reps (Look at how Oregon or any team in Ntl. game after weeks off....again look at Oregon in game 1 after a summer off against no competition.) and they look like they are playing a style of Canadian football. Add Penn State..They have a solid defense but can't score on anyone and barely beat Iowa.

Please don't show ignorance by adding Penn St to the list of teams that mean anything. Come on. Bama hasn't played anyone out of conference, but their conference schedule is full of much bigger challenges than those that Wisc and Stanford will face. I said Stanford and Wisconsin haven't played anyone, and by the end of the season they still won't have.

There's no way that a 1 loss LSU or Florida "Deserves" anything, which is why there are 3 major conferences that now have conf. championship games vs. 2 conf, (i.e. SEC and Big 12). So, if Stanford losses to 1 game but beats Oregon in Conference Championship, should they also "Deserve" a shot ? (They'd be able to say they beat Oregon just like a 1 loss LSU team)

No, they don't. That's kind of my point. LSU or Bama making it with 1 loss is a much more impressive feat than if Stanford goes undefeated, because they don't play anyone. Oregon can't count for Stanford if you don't count them for us. The point is Stanford HAS to play them and doesn't play anyone out of conference, we chose to play 2 real out of conference games.

Sorry 20th st., I find it hard to believe that BAMA won't prevail over your tigers and won't go undefeated because LSU's offense is suspect and hasn't played one real defense yet. Maybe I will be eating my words soon, but oh well.

They might, they might not. It's fun being relevant, and damn good. How's your team doing?

[sowanome]

Please don't show ignorance by adding Penn St to the list of teams that mean anything. Come on. Bama hasn't played anyone out of conference, but their conference schedule is full of much bigger challenges than those that Wisc and Stanford will face. I said Stanford and Wisconsin haven't played anyone, and by the end of the season they still won't have.

No, they don't. That's kind of my point. LSU or Bama making it with 1 loss is a much more impressive feat than if Stanford goes undefeated, because they don't play anyone. Oregon can't count for Stanford if you don't count them for us. The point is Stanford HAS to play them and doesn't play anyone out of conference, we chose to play 2 real out of conference games.

They might, they might not. It's fun being relevant, and damn good. How's your team doing?

My former team is doing great and in top 5 as well, but it's no big deal. As for out of conf. wins(or inner conference), please tell me again who have Bama and LSU have beaten? Florida is a complete over hyped joke just as FSU, Auburn, Miss St. and S.Carolina...LSU and BAMA are co-dependent right now and one will go down, but only to win against a "TERRIBLE" Eastern half of the SEC.

If you check my post from t before the start of the season, I called out exactly what's happening, correct?

[KinkaidAlum]

Go Coogs! That was fun. Our tailgate was packed and that victory almost helped erase my memory of sitting in Dowdy Ficklen Stadium on a wet, 35 degree day as we lost the CUSA Championship in the last minute. Suck it, Pirates!

[20thStDad]

My former team is doing great and in top 5 as well, but it's no big deal. As for out of conf. wins(or inner conference), please tell me again who have Bama and LSU have beaten? Florida is a complete over hyped joke just as FSU, Auburn, Miss St. and S.Carolina...LSU and BAMA are co-dependent right now and one will go down, but only to win against a "TERRIBLE" Eastern half of the SEC.

If you check my post from t before the start of the season, I called out exactly what's happening, correct?

We gave Oregon and WVU their only losses (probably the only ones they'll have all year). They aren't top 5 teams (one was, both might end up that way), but they're better than any teams in the big 10 outside of Wisconsin. Florida wasn't so bad until their starting QB went down, that would do most teams in. I agree that the SEC is Bama and LSU and everyone else, but everyone else is still better than Wisconsin or Stanford's everyone else. Who near the top has played a better schedule than we have? I don't care who bama plays, and I hope they lose every week.

[sowanome]

We gave Oregon and WVU their only losses (probably the only ones they'll have all year). They aren't top 5 teams (one was, both might end up that way), but they're better than any teams in the big 10 outside of Wisconsin. Florida wasn't so bad until their starting QB went down, that would do most teams in. I agree that the SEC is Bama and LSU and everyone else, but everyone else is still better than Wisconsin or Stanford's everyone else. Who near the top has played a better schedule than we have? I don't care who bama plays, and I hope they lose every week.

You are under a complete illusion about some things.

1. Oregon has to play Stanford, which could equate to a second loss as Oregon barely beat Stanford last year.

2. Are you forgetting the BIG 12, specifically OU and Okl. State? There will likely be an undefeated team from the Big 12 this year and OSU has an Offense that's on fire (They look like LSU's polar opposite mirror image...great Offense, questionable Defense)

3. With the exception of the Big 10, there are 2 solid teams (OU/OSU,Stan/Ore,Wisc/?) in each "Major Football" conference which makes your "Everybody else's" argument flawed if you're including Auburn, Kentucky,S.Carolina, Georgia, Ole Missing, FLA, Tenn,etc.

4. What about Boise, they crushed you're everybody else Georgia correct?

5. Penn State has a top 10 Defense, hence the reason I threw them in the convo unless you want to agree that Bama's only formidable opponent is LSU

6. WVU and the Big East football(?) is a joke currently...please don't consider that a meaningful win.

7. Who near the top has played your schedule? What week of the season is this and please don't get too high on the Oregon win?

8. I've always had a likening for LSU but I'm just stating the obvious

Edited October 10, 2011 by sowanome

[20thStDad]

You are under a complete illusion about some things.

1. Oregon has to play Stanford, which could equate to a second loss as Oregon barely beat Stanford last year.

2. Are you forgetting the BIG 12, specifically OU and Okl. State? There will likely be an undefeated team from the Big 12 this year and OSU has an Offense that's on fire (They look like LSU's polar opposite mirror image...great Offense, questionable Defense)

3. With the exception of the Big 10, there are 2 solid teams (OU/OSU,Stan/Ore,Wisc/?) in each "Major Football" conference which makes your "Everybody else's" argument flawed if you're including Auburn, Kentucky,S.Carolina, Georgia, Ole Missing, FLA, Tenn,etc.

4. What about Boise, they crushed you're everybody else Georgia correct?

5. Penn State has a top 10 Defense, hence the reason I threw them in the convo unless you want to agree that Bama's only formidable opponent is LSU

6. WVU and the Big East football(?) is a joke currently...please don't consider that a meaningful win.

7. Who near the top has played your schedule? What week of the season is this and please don't get too high on the Oregon win?

8. I've always had a likening for LSU but I'm just stating the obvious

I kind of forgot what my original point was, so I don't even know if I'm arguing any more. I agree that a big 12 team will come out undefeated, and they will be in the championship game. I kind of hope it is OSU, for no other reason than I think orange (not burnt) is a better color than maroon. Past that it will be about SEC, big 10, or pac 12 having a horse in the race.

1. I hope Oregon beats Stanford, not to make our win look better but so Stanford isn't undefeated. If Stanford and Wisconsin end up undefeated and play for the title and LSU/Bama has 1 loss, it'll be playoff insanity controversy because neither of those 2 teams has a difficult schedule.

2. No, as per 2nd sentence above

3. My comment is about the teams after the top teams in each conference, not the top teams themselves. Though not awesome, the also-rans that you note are better than other conferences also-rans.

4. Yeah Georgia sucks. But Boise will have played 0 great teams. Maybe not their fault, but so what. I have no fear that voters will put a 1-loss LSU or Bama above Boise in the end.

5. Penn St is horrible. They haven't played anyone besides bama. They barely beat Temple, or somebody like Temple if I'm not remembering right. Bama's offense is no juggernaut, they are young in most key spots.

6. WVU hasn't played anyone good but us, and though the big east is crap they are handling it like a good team should by winning. We beat them by a lot, at their place. It doesn't mean nothing.

7. The season is halfway over, and we already know the schedule the rest of the way. Bama scheduled out of conf cupcakes, as did Wisconsin and Stanford. OU put FSU in there, but Clemson and Wake Forest just took the meaning out of that game. You have to look at WVU as a better win than FSU at this point.

8. Fun

In the end, we are going to lose 2 games anyway. But right now it's fun to look ahead.

[sowanome]

In the end, we are going to lose 2 games anyway. But right now it's fun to look ahead.

I give LSU 1 loss max (unless Ark gives them #2) since they've beat Oregon already. Don't undersell ur tigers..BTW, playing in Morgantown is weak and has never been a tough place to play, that place is no different than many Texas high school stadiums other than maybe the Trailer parks that surround the Stadium in WV...It was only a big game b/c of rankings at that time.

Gotta get out of the house and go to work, but definitely looking forward to tracking our convo's over the next few weekends 20th. Maybe ASU will take down Oregon this wknd?

Edited October 10, 2011 by sowanome

[DistribAire P.E.]

Techtards spray painted our team busses and spread dog poop inside them. When I was a student, it was a given that there would be problems, physical altercations, when visiting Tech on game day. Good riddance assholes clowns....

bullchit - where are the pics? where is the police report? truth is it was shoe polish and only one of the three buses had a dog turd in it -surely it didnt come from your mascot which just happens to be a dog?

this is just like the goal post incident a few years ago where you blamed Tech for hitting McKinnely - but it was in fact aggy on aggy violence but you blame Tech for it. Or the time an aggy student broke into the TAMU football facilities - stole some football equipment and vandalized the locker room putting "the eyes of Texas are upon you" and the UT logo to make it appear like it was UT that did it.

Aggy has well established history of doing things to make it appear that someone from another school was responsible so you can go cry to mommy and bang the "classy" drum. How easily you have forgotten that you started the tradition of vandalizing other schools - BEVO ring a bell??!!

oh and for TCEH tards - at least we know what the TX flag looks like!!! Should we start calling you Chilean A&M

LOL

Edited October 10, 2011 by DistribAire P.E.

[RedScare]

I believe I did more "vandalism" to the A&M campus myself when I was in school there than the perps who did this. Agreed that Hwy6 is mistaken in calling it spray paint, and whatever was done was cleaned up before the team used the busses to travel to the stadium. My Aggies brothers are engaging in quite a bit of overreaction on this.

BTW, if you ever make it into the steam tunnels in Aggieland, you can see my handiwork there.

[KinkaidAlum]

West Virginia's wins?

Norfolk State (an HBCU that actually led at halftime in Morgantown!)

Maryland (the only thing worse than all the new Terp uniforms? Their play on the field)

UConn (lost their coach and a gazillion seniors and have 1 win over a FBS team)

Bowling Green (a lower level MAC team)

Marshall (a team that UH will pound in two weeks)

The Mountaineers have played ONE road game (Maryland) and they almost choked away a massive lead to hold on for a 37-31 win. I wouldn't be surprised if Syracuse beats WVU this weekend in the Carrier Dome...

[20thStDad]

West Virginia's wins?

Norfolk State (an HBCU that actually led at halftime in Morgantown!)

Maryland (the only thing worse than all the new Terp uniforms? Their play on the field)

UConn (lost their coach and a gazillion seniors and have 1 win over a FBS team)

Bowling Green (a lower level MAC team)

Marshall (a team that UH will pound in two weeks)

The Mountaineers have played ONE road game (Maryland) and they almost choked away a massive lead to hold on for a 37-31 win. I wouldn't be surprised if Syracuse beats WVU this weekend in the Carrier Dome...

I'm not saying they're actually any good, but we blew them out at their place. You can make an even bigger argument like this against Wisconsin. They haven't had ANY road games, and their only decent win is over a way overrated Nebraska team who barely got by an Ohio St team who almost lost to Toledo. Illinois and Michigan State are the only two ranked teams on Wisconsin's schedule, and what are the chances both stay ranked all year? Wisconsin going undefeated will not prove anything except that the big 10 sucks.

[KinkaidAlum]

Total agreement. The Big Ten is awful. The bottom of that league is truly pathetic. Minnesota loses to North Dakota State (again), and Rice beats Purdue, and North Texas defeats Indiana, and Iowa State knocks off Iowa, and Army upends Northwestern, and Ball State punks Indiana,,,

[Highway6]

bullchit - where are the pics? where is the police report? truth is it was shoe polish and only one of the three buses had a dog turd in it -surely it didnt come from your mascot which just happens to be a dog?

this is just like the goal post incident a few years ago where you blamed Tech for hitting McKinnely - but it was in fact aggy on aggy violence but you blame Tech for it. Or the time an aggy student broke into the TAMU football facilities - stole some football equipment and vandalized the locker room putting "the eyes of Texas are upon you" and the UT logo to make it appear like it was UT that did it.

Aggy has well established history of doing things to make it appear that someone from another school was responsible so you can go cry to mommy and bang the "classy" drum. How easily you have forgotten that you started the tradition of vandalizing other schools - BEVO ring a bell??!!

oh and for TCEH tards - at least we know what the TX flag looks like!!! Should we start calling you Chilean A&M

LOL

You try to absolve Tech's misdeeds by focusing on details that are wrong.

Who cares if it was shoe polish and not paint, like mistakenly reported. Fact remains lots of vulgarities were put on 4 buses.

Who cares if it was only one bus that had **** in it. That's still one bus too many. That's still pretty nasty. Everything I've read has indicated it was more than just a single turd.

Our mascot travels with her corps handler. She would never have any direct interaction with the football team in traveling arrangements.

Just like the goal post incident......

Techtards try to keep the focus on the McKinney fight. Yeah, so in the mayhem, an aggie threw a punch at another aggie. Agreed, and not the point or the correct focus.

That was AFTER techtard students rammed their goalpost into the aggie fan section after the game.

So it's all aggie sabatoge to paint other schools poorly ? Are you saying that was really Aggies dressed up as Techtards that decided to then throw the goalpost into their own fans after a loss ????? You're kidding, right ?

And because it was ONLY polish and a little bit of ****, it was most likely aggies, not techtards ????

Yeah.. Chilen flag.

Was put there by a Chilean corps member to mark the 1 yr anniversary of the Chilean mine incident and to honor an Aggie who was instrumental in the rescue.

Pranks are fun.. They are supposed to be fun. Stealing a mascot to show you can would be fun. Killing a mascot, too far. Vulgarity and excrement crosses that line from fun to nasty... Whatever. It made the national news, and made you clowns look bad.

Like I said.. Good riddance.

Edited October 10, 2011 by Highway6

[Highway6]

I believe I did more "vandalism" to the A&M campus myself when I was in school there than the perps who did this. Agreed that Hwy6 is mistaken in calling it spray paint, and whatever was done was cleaned up before the team used the busses to travel to the stadium. My Aggies brothers are engaging in quite a bit of overreaction on this.

BTW, if you ever make it into the steam tunnels in Aggieland, you can see my handiwork there.

You're comparing generations of aggies tagging out of sight steam tunnels to how you treat visiting fans and teams ??

I've traveled to multiple bowl games and b12 championship games and to every campus in the B12 except Colorado and ISU, multiple times for South div teams. My experiences tell me that Techtards are special in their nastiness and aggressiveness towards opposing fans.

Edited October 10, 2011 by Highway6

[DistribAire P.E.]

Okie dokie. obviously facts are lost on you that clearly your athletic director is liar just out to smear Tech. Aggies are supposed to take pride in their code of conduct and not lie, but somehow that just goes out the window when you need it to. Just like many times before when aggy is determined to find some story of how horrible their trip to Lubbock was and yet every time, its just bullchit exaggerations or outright lies.

buses spray painted - LIE

all covered with **** inside and out - LIE

report filed with DPS-LIE

no reports filed with LPD or DPS. No photos to document proof. These are charter buses, plain white, no identification that tied them to A&M. You know the ones with windows 8-10-12ft up in the air? A&M security/police watching them all night and somehow they missed some guys with ladders walking around and writing stuff on all the windows on every bus, that would taken quite a bit of time. The buses are locked, security didnt notice someone trying to break into the bus? Again these are rented buses, how would anyone outside of TAMU personnel even know which buses belonged to A&M?

but Im certain you just dismiss these facts with your own fantasy logic, just as you can dismiss the fact that your fans sat in those seats for a good 30 minutes before the goalposts got there. "tech rammed the goalposts right into the seats-no time to escape!!!" The original claim of the goalpost incident was that Tech was classless because we started a fight and hit McKinney. Then a few days later it turns out it was aggy that hit McKinney. then aggy had to backtrack to find another reason of how classless Tech is....

so keep on with the "Tech had to do it, they are classless!"

typical delusional brainwashed aggy that always has an excuse for their actions while crying everyone else isnt classy. I wouldn't expect anything less. good job

Edited October 10, 2011 by DistribAire P.E.

[Highway6]

Okie dokie. typical dilusional brainwashed aggy that always has an excuse for their actions while crying everyone else isnt classy. I wouldnt expect anything less. good job

Who cares about the punch? Throwing a effin goal post at visiting fans is repulsive all on its own.

Are you now suggesting that Tech fans are such pansies that they would let a visitng team, that just lost, storm their field and tear down one of their goal posts ? Don't think so.

[DistribAire P.E.]

The year was 2001 and the location was Jones Stadium. The incident is called "GoalpostGate II" by some because of the controversy that surrounds the events of that day. The Texas Tech Red Raiders beat the Texas A&M Aggies and, although we were favored, some idiots in the student section decide to bring down the goalposts.

We (I say "we" because I made it onto the field but was not part of the contigent bringing down the goalposts) decided to march the goalposts out of the stadium, with an intention to lay them at the feet of Will Rogers and Soapsuds. However, members of Lubbock's finest decide to blockade the easiest route out of the stadium, the player tunnels. As if by some sort of telepathy, the entire mob decides that the next easiest route out of the stadium will be to the Northeast, over the fence.

Keep in mind that that 5 minutes have already passed.

Well, one problem. The Agroids were glued to thier seats, stunned as they watched the mob make their way towards them at a rate slower than molasses. Apparently, Aggy wants to practice their Yells because they hadn't done well enough in the game, as evidenced by their loss. Either that, or they ran out of time. The final score had been 12 - 0, so at the rate they were scoring, maybe with another 6 or 8 quarters they could've overtaken the mighty Red Raiders.

Another 3 or 4 minutes passed as the mob marches the goalposts 120 yards to the north. Some of the nastier Agroids decide that they've seen enough of the celebrating and start flipping the mob off and chant "You Suck, You Suck." This only enraged the mob who had endured the Agroids "practicing" a Yell during the playing of the Texas Tech School Song after the game and before the goalposts came tumbling down.

In response, the mob starts chanting "Aggies Suck, Aggies Suck!" A few guys from within the mob decide to climb up into the stands to guide the goalposts over the Aggs since they won't move. One guy, who was leading the right post, walked up 4 rows past Ags without saying a word to instigate what came next.

Apparently, Colonel William McKinney, Governor Rick Perry's Chief of Staff, decided he'd had enough and decided to take action to defend the Aggy turf. It must've looked like the Mexicans climbing over the outer walls of the Alamo Mission because of the way he described the scene afterwards: "It was like I was defending the Alamo."

Well, Kernal McKinney tries to push some hapless chap over the wall back into the crowd of Mexicans, and others in the area viewed this as a provocation and a riot broke out.

The fisticuffs lasted approximately 3 or 4 minutes as two different areas broke into fights.

Afterwards, news media gathered around McKinney as he recounted his tales of heroism in defending the Alamo. McKinney proudly proclaimed that he decided to swing his binoculars in the air, much like an olympian does in the hammer throw, to hurt the "next one that came over that wall." McKinney was bleeding profusely from his right eyebrow; McKinney said he was blind-sided by a Techie and had "the fool knocked out of him." (What I have in quotes are actual things he said.) Tech Athletic Trainers attempted to dress the wound, but he refused attention from them, demanding that A&M Trainers bandage him.

Well, McKinney promises to hurt Tech in Austin where in the next budget meeting; after all, he was Rick Perry's right hand man. The next day, Perry comes out and publicly blasts Texas Tech fans everywhere and is harshest on the school administration.

You know, if you hear Aggies describe the story, it sounds as if everything happened the instant the final gun sounded. Hearing it from them, it sounded as if they were being accosted by 400 college aged guys that had come straight from working out at Gold's Gym.

Well, 2 or 3 days go by and people everywhere are examining the videos from the melee to determine who exactly was at fault. Tech President Schmidley (a former A&M faculty member) promises to be harsh on anyone involved. 6 students are identified and 2 are kicked out of the University.

Another day goes by and a young Black man approaches the media regarding the incidents. He's an Aggie and he was there. He admits to the media that he was the one that "knocked the fool" out of McKinney. When asked why he did it, he said "I did it because the guy was spinning his binoculars around looking for someone to hurt. I did it to keep him from hurting anyone."

Agroids everywhere are appalled by the man's admission. Why in the world would an Aggy punch another Aggy? Well, Ags decide to ostracize him for his admission instead of McKinney, because this obviously makes Aggy look bad. Red Raiders everywhere are left waiting for McKinney to apologize... and we're still waiting on his or Governor Goodhair's apologies for blasting Tech before all the facts were known.

Well, another day goes by and pictures begin to circulate. Amongst them are pictures of the crowd that accosted the Aggies.

Well, guess what? 90% of the crowd happens to be Junior High Kids!!! As I mentioned before, hearing the Ag version makes it sound as if there were hundreds of College guys, but here was proof otherwise! This only added to the comedy that was "GoalpostGate II." One boy in particular, a boy by the name of Vincent Valdez, aged 13, helped lead the charge against the Agroids. His image was plastered everywhere. Here is a picture of a boy leading the charge to pounce on the Ags, wounded by the loss!

He was wearing a "GAP" shirt and was surrounded by other characters, such as "The Pirate," "Tank Top Girl," and "Harry Potter Kid." Hardly a group that appears mean enough to take down the Aggy empire. Anyways, enough talking... It will become quickly evident to you why the Gap Kid has served to ridicule Aggies everywhere and why he has grown to become an internet legend amongst RaiderPower and Hornfans posters.