cloud713 4038 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) I doubt this is moving forward anytime soon;http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Oil-woes-take-toll-on-Houston-s-hotel-industry-6527849.php?t=15d968323d&cmpid=twitter-premiumI wonder how this affects the Le Meridian redevelopment.I'm more interested to know how it will effect that planned convention center hotel on top of the GHP building. We'll probably have a 7-10 story office building/garage for awhile I presume.. Edited September 25, 2015 by cloud713 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloud713 4038 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I always thought this would work for apartment-like housing for seniors.What about micro-apartment/studios for people who can't quite afford the base rents at the new luxury towers or just don't want all the added amenities/expense? Micro apts seem to be popular in bigger/more urban settings. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Montrose1100 3714 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 What about micro-apartment/studios for people who can't quite afford the base rents at the new luxury towers or just don't want all the added amenities/expense? Micro apts seem to be popular in bigger/more urban settings.That's actually a good idea. Some real affordable housing. How many hotel rooms does this thing have? But the real deal would be getting a kitchenette in each unit, if there would be space. It wouldn't have to be adorned in quartz counter tops with reclaimed wood floors, stainless steel appliances, just with functioning ones and inexpensive details.I'm sure they already have a laundry room space. Plus a pool and gym space. What would you charge for a studio? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigFootsSocks 3179 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I'm more interested to know how it will effect that planned convention center hotel on top of the GHP building. We'll probably have a 7-10 story office building/garage for awhile I presume..There's quite a few projects that could fizzle out. Aloft has two other projects (including that really awesome one in Sugarland), there's the GRB hotel, Hotel ZaZa off of I-10, the midtown hotel proposed by the firm that's part of JR Central, etc. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cspwal 3903 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 That's actually a good idea. Some real affordable housing. How many hotel rooms does this thing have? But the real deal would be getting a kitchenette in each unit, if there would be space. It wouldn't have to be adorned in quartz counter tops with reclaimed wood floors, stainless steel appliances, just with functioning ones and inexpensive details.I'm sure they already have a laundry room space. Plus a pool and gym space. What would you charge for a studio? I'm sure if they could get the price point in at $999/mo for a super simple apartment (hotel room, with a mini fridge under a counter with a sink piped in from the bathroom) they would have a bunch of takers.  An efficiency over at Houston House was going for $1060/mo base 2 years ago (not sure what it would be now) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmitch94 2020 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I don't know too much about the Houston apartment market but I know I would never pay a $1000 a month to like in a old hotel room. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cspwal 3903 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 They'd obviously renovate it. And they would sell it as the Heaven on Earth Lofts or something Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronTiger 913 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 That's actually a good idea. Some real affordable housing. How many hotel rooms does this thing have? But the real deal would be getting a kitchenette in each unit, if there would be space. It wouldn't have to be adorned in quartz counter tops with reclaimed wood floors, stainless steel appliances, just with functioning ones and inexpensive details. I'm sure they already have a laundry room space. Plus a pool and gym space. What would you charge for a studio? From the Arch-ive pictures posted the rooms looked smaller than a typical standard Holiday Inn. Maybe it was just an optical illusion (from a tiny picture) but it sure felt that way. Of course, hotel-to-residential conversions usually gut and make the units larger at the expense of the total numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloud713 4038 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 That's actually a good idea. Some real affordable housing. How many hotel rooms does this thing have? But the real deal would be getting a kitchenette in each unit, if there would be space. It wouldn't have to be adorned in quartz counter tops with reclaimed wood floors, stainless steel appliances, just with functioning ones and inexpensive details. I'm sure they already have a laundry room space. Plus a pool and gym space. What would you charge for a studio? thanks. my thoughts exactly.. right now downtowns housing boom is a welcome addition to creating the 24/7 neighborhood we all want it to be, but living downtown isn't exactly something attainable for most people. micro-apartments seem to be a solution. if you want to have the local amenities and conveniences of living downtown but can't afford the $1500+ rents at the new apartments then this would give you an option of sacrificing some living space to still enjoy the downtown lifestyle. according to some random link i found, there are 600 rooms (at least, when it was Heaven on Earth). I'm not sure what the square footage would break down to for each room, but yeah.. if you could squeeze a kitchenette in each unit that would be ideal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronTiger 913 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) thanks. my thoughts exactly.. right now downtowns housing boom is a welcome addition to creating the 24/7 neighborhood we all want it to be, but living downtown isn't exactly something attainable for most people. micro-apartments seem to be a solution. if you want to have the local amenities and conveniences of living downtown but can't afford the $1500+ rents at the new apartments then this would give you an option of sacrificing some living space to still enjoy the downtown lifestyle. according to some random link i found, there are 600 rooms (at least, when it was Heaven on Earth). I'm not sure what the square footage would break down to for each room, but yeah.. if you could squeeze a kitchenette in each unit that would be ideal. The 600 room figure was from when the hotel was a Holiday Inn, and was never changed (the following hotels never did substantial renovations, which was why the hotel deteriorated). By the time Holiday Inn sold to Days, they weren't able to fill half of them, so the Days Inn only operated with about 300 rooms. The Masharashi hotel incarnations were never able to even break 25% occupancy, if I recall correctly. Edited September 26, 2015 by IronTiger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec 502 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I dig the concept of a minimal renovation for affordable (in the market sense, no need for subsidies) units. Just to give an idea of how cheap and easy that renovation could be, these drop-in fridge/sink/stove units retail for about $1250- I'm sure less when you buy 600: 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronTiger 913 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Yeah, by 1993, even with rock bottom rates, they couldn't keep even 80 rooms filled.http://blog.chron.com/bayoucityhistory/2013/07/downtowns-heaven-on-earth-the-old-holiday-inn/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronTiger 913 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 For some reason, when this thread was merged, it kept the newer, misspelled thread title. Could a mod change the title to "Holiday Inn / Days Inn / Heaven on Earth Inn Redevelopment" or something along those lines? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
infinite_jim 937 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I've seen a lot more people in this building over the last year than in any time before. Mostly thrill seekers but one Saturday morning last summer I saw what appeared to be a building tour with a group of men in business suits pacing about on top of the garage podium. Anecdotal but it seems to show that owners have opened it up to redevelopment. As far as the water situation goes, for a couple weeks they (the couple of guys who show up every morning and "clean up") were using hoses from the garage out to the street gutter in what can only be described as flooding the sidewalk. No clue as to whether that was waste water or not. And not that these two events are related, but the city had several small crews and a large crew last weekend under Travis from St. Joseph down to Gray for a couple weeks after the sidewalk floodings. Today I also found out that there's a major water leak in downtown so who knows how long this has been going on. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toxtethogrady 807 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 There's quite a few projects that could fizzle out. Aloft has two other projects (including that really awesome one in Sugarland), there's the GRB hotel, Hotel ZaZa off of I-10, the midtown hotel proposed by the firm that's part of JR Central, etc. The ZaZa has a groundbreaking scheduled. This weekend, if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigFootsSocks 3179 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Well...I did say that 10 days ago.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toxtethogrady 807 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I haven't been here in ages... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigFootsSocks 3179 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I know, I missed your barrage of posts in threads that had been quiet for weeks 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nativehoustonion 588 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Just tear this eyesore down! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Urbannizer 44123 Posted October 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2015 I wish the HCHA was actually working on this, mixed/affordable housing in Downtown. http://www.thedgstudios.com/project_houston_view.html     The Houston View apartment conversion will take the existing structure and implement an entirely new and contemporary building envelope that complements the Houston skyline, makde of glass and metal cladding along with decorative metal panels for accenting and screening the parking structure. New street level landscape and hardscape appointments will also be added. The modern design will incorporate the latest in sustainable and energy efficient technologies to achieve bot LEED Platinum and Emerald Green designations. The ground floor will offer a formal lobby with porte-cochere for resident/guest drop-off and will also provide office and commercial space for medical services, fitness center, and resident services. The existing parking structure provides ample parking for residents and guests with the opportunity to lease the additional stalls to monthly commuters in need of secure down town parking. The basement of the building will include rentable storage spaces for residents in need of additional storage space. The pool deck above the parking garage will be renovated along with the creation of outdoor container garden areas with special paving to create a resort like environment for residents. Residential units will span from the 6th to the 30th floor. The most dramatic feature of the building will be the glass enclosed roof top community room and garden above the 30th floor accented with a contemporary wedge shaped roof structure that completes the new image and identity of the building.A total of 252 apartment units offer an urban loft aesthetic with open floor plans and floor to ceiling glass along the outer wall to enhance the surrounding views. The renovation will provide a mix of 1 & 2 bedroom units ranging from 700 square feet to over 900 square feet. Accessibility in apartment units is a key tenet of the overall design concept. Most floors contain 11 apartment units, an elevator core/lobby, mechanical room, and a resident lounge with television viewing, sittin, and library areas that will serve as an extension to individual living spaces. 22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-TownChris2 1892 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Wow^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Huge 2398 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Urb, didn't I say that you have to stop doing this to us? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ANTHONYHTOWN 166 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 WOW!! no way... won't get my hopes up!!! LOL!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Montrose1100 3714 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Love everything about it. Even the giant unnecessary logo at the entrance. Even the garage looks great. You can tell they're are playing off the original design (and era), with the color choices. The roof feature is funky too. Fingers crossed. If when this happens, how many buildings are left Downtown that are abandonded? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cspwal 3903 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 This looks amazing! Would be wonderful rehab of the building. I wish the HCHA was actually working on this, mixed/affordable housing in Downtown. So what does this mean?  It's actually going to happen, or it was just a study done?    Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsanity02 1284 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 A very minor point. They are placing cold hardy palms in a protected location. The new Holiday Inn on Main is placing Queen palms in a location exposed to cold north winds, which they will regret. Â These trees will look beautiful if properly taken care of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Urbannizer 44123 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 This looks amazing! Would be wonderful rehab of the building.  So what does this mean?  It's actually going to happen, or it was just a study done?    It' appears to be a study/concept by the architect for the Harris County Housing Authority. I did not find anything else on this. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monarch 3793 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 ^^^ wow! Â absolutely amazing. Â props urbannizer.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tumbleweed_Tx 1791 Posted November 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's see through now 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j_cuevas713 3025 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's see through nowOh snap! This is a miracle! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 11782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's see through now How has no one captured photos of construction/demo crew coming in and out of this building? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Huge 2398 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Wait what!!! Omfg, no way!!!What does this mean??! Are they doing a rehab?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeerNut 2570 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Wait what!!! Omfg, no way!!!What does this mean??! Are they doing a rehab?? Maybe getting rid of stuff for implosion... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmitch94 2020 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 ^Thats what I would rather have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phillip_white 1911 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 We all remember what happened when Central Square went see-through...  Wait what!!! Omfg, no way!!!What does this mean??! Are they doing a rehab?? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-Town Man 4990 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 What did it look like before? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsanity02 1284 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 H-Town man. Check out the little photo beneath the Full Member. I think that is it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfastx 535 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Man if Houston could finally do something with that eyesore that'd be incredible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 11782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's see through now Looks like it's been this way since 2014 though: http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/2503-holiday-days-heaven-on-earth-inn/?p=450455 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tumbleweed_Tx 1791 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 It hasn't been as see through as it was the other day, though. Most of the time, the upper parts of the eyesore are blocked by either walls or curtains.I took the picture because every time I park in the 8th floor of the GS garage, I have to see that thing, and the lack of stuff blocking the view through it caught my eye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phillip_white 1911 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Apparently our Days Inn has a twin in Beirut that survived a war... and looks basically the same.http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/scars-war-lebanon-holiday-inn-151219082356997.html 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
democide 165 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I've looked at pictures of highrise buildings that have been bombed by missiles during the two Iraq Wars and Bosnian War, they all survive. Â There are all left standing, even with structural and fire damage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrLan34 1944 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I noticed the gate was open on the ground floor a couple of days ago when I walked by. Â I will try to get a picture later this week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j_cuevas713 3025 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Saw what appeared to be an electrician checking a breaker box today on the side of this building. Edited March 29, 2016 by j_cuevas713 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HoustonIsHome 1626 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 12 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: Saw what appeared to be an electrician checking a breaker box today on the side of this building. There was also a welder working on the gate Saturday.  It looked like he was reinforcing the top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cspwal 3903 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Just realized what this derelict building replaced Looks like that block was all interesting looking houses 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-Town Man 4990 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, cspwal said: Just realized what this derelict building replaced Looks like that block was all interesting looking houses  Holy retro photo, Batman! Those apartments remind me of Chicago. Looks like this was kind of an interesting neighborhood before the Pierce came through.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cspwal 3903 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 It's hard to get your bearings since there's only 2 buildings in this photo that survived, but the church on the left is pretty distinctive, and Central plaza in midtown is too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terra002 136 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Is anything ever going to happen here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Purpledevil 287 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Hey look, now we have a general idea of what it will look like sans Pierce Elevated. Man, give me a jackhammer. I'll take it down myself after seeing this pic. Sooooo much better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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