VelvetJ Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 That they finally did something for Houston should be applauded, not derided.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>That is taking it a bit far. They should not be applauded for something they were put in office to do, which was help Houston as much as they could. If anything we should be saying, it's a shame about the role they played in it all taking so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I wonder how Houston would look if the old plans of the monorail, and subway had came to life. Would the freeways be as big? Would the city be more dense? Would people talk bad on the city as much? Would the city be more urban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_oneal Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I wonder how Houston would look if the old plans of the monorail, and subway had came to life. Would the freeways be as big? Would the city be more dense? Would people talk bad on the city as much? Would the city be more urban?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>and if had been done during the whitmire years in the early 80s ... we'd be SO much further along as a city, and able to tackle new issues.seems like the visionaries here get crucified and then their ideas get rehashed years later. oh well, better late than never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Metro News ReleaseThe above link goes to the official Metro News Release.At the bottom of the release is the link to the new map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_oneal Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Metro News ReleaseThe above link goes to the official Metro News Release.At the bottom of the release is the link to the new map.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>as i mentioned, i am just glad to see this stuff getting started. it is long overdue for a city of this size and complexity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
713 To 214 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Some feel betrayed by MetroMinorities say routes without trains not what they sought in '03 referendumBy RAD SALLEECopyright 2005 Houston Chronicle Two days after Metro's revised transit plan was announced, criticism was bubbling up in the minority communities whose votes for light rail tipped the scales in a close election. . .http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3227830 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUCAJUN Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Some feel betrayed by MetroMinorities say routes without trains not what they sought in '03 referendumBy RAD SALLEECopyright 2005 Houston Chronicle Two days after Metro's revised transit plan was announced, criticism was bubbling up in the minority communities whose votes for light rail tipped the scales in a close election. . .http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3227830<{POST_SNAPBACK}>don't you have a dallas forum to support?stop wasting your time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 ^ They should feel betrayed. How many of you really think those routes will ever be up graded to light rail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Yeah, they really passed the original referendum themselves.I feel that since the track is being laid, it will eventually get finished, but when is a different question. I hope the numbers dictate sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Some feel betrayed by MetroMinorities say routes without trains not what they sought in '03 referendumBy RAD SALLEECopyright 2005 Houston Chronicle Two days after Metro's revised transit plan was announced, criticism was bubbling up in the minority communities whose votes for light rail tipped the scales in a close election. . .http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3227830<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Given the realities, and the history, of rail in Houston, I believe the best decision was made in this case. But at the same time, I think that the feelings in the lower-income/high-transit-use communities are also warrented. I mean, they did get the short end of the stick, while Uptown gets a better deal. But again, in the interest of rail in Houston, I support the decision. Not that anybody cares or anything! Just my dos centavos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomv Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 The Chronicle said that the NW commuter line will use "existing track along 290". I wasn't aware there was track there. Do they mean the track next to Hempstead Highway? And it appears that the line will use the same right of way inside the loop that was proposed for the Heights Toll Road. Residents there were not too thrilled about a toll road, to say the least. They were hoping to turn the abandoned track into a green belt and/or a hike and bike trail. How do they feel about a commuter rail line? Can they do anything about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I wasn't aware there was track there (290). Do they mean the track next to Hempstead Highway?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 from the Northwest Transit Center to downtown (called MKT corridor) has been purchased from Union Pacific by TxDOT. This will enable METRO to buy it from TxDOT when they decide to build their commuter rail. This deal took place about two years ago.The corridor will never be used for a tollroad east of Hempstead highway to the Heights. I was told this by the president of HCTRA and Art Storey.Another thing to understand when the word corridor is used with a highway, it doesn't always mean right along the highway. Hempstead Hwy and the rail next to is in the US 290 corridor. It was US 290 before it became a freeway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Of all the places I want to see rail is Uptown, I wish they would make the rail a little more urban there by placing it above ground or underground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontroseNeighborhoodCafe Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 June 16, 2005, 11:57PMLawmakers perplexed by Metro's change in rail plansThe move hurts transit authority's 'credibility,' says Rep. Gene GreenBy RAD SALLEECopyright 2005 Houston ChronicleRead More... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 lucily he really has little political pull, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I'm along the lines of a couple of posters on here, I have mixed feelings about the plan. I understand that they're going to throw tracks into the ground on a couple of the "bus routes" but I want more details on how it's going to go and what the timeline is going to be. I do believe the east side was seriously short changed in the compromised, but not overly so. I think the ridership numbers were seriously being lowballed for one reason or another. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMND Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Has anyone heard of what's being planned where the Main line and UH-Uptown line will intersect? I think someone mentioned somewhere that there's already some massive mixed-use project being planned for that intersection point area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Has anyone heard of what's being planned where the Main line and UH-Uptown line will intersect? I think someone mentioned somewhere that there's already some massive mixed-use project being planned for that intersection point area.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's supposed to be the Wheeler Station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I do believe the east side was seriously short changed in the compromised, but not overly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I really would not want to see the buses coming throught the galleria, do you know howmany people would laugh at how cheap the city is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 It's only temporary, anyway, citykid. Dopn't get your pants in a wad over it. if you want, go talk to Metro, or DeLay about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmancuso Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 It's only temporary, anyway, citykid. Dopn't get your pants in a wad over it. if you want, go talk to Metro, or DeLay about it.temporary...and a million bucks a pop for those stupid buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 I really would not want to see the buses coming throught the galleria, do you know howmany people would laugh at how cheap the city is. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you crack me up man. first off light rail is going throught the galleria from the U of H campus. second, you would build Houston as people outside the city want it rather than what benefits the city's citizens because of people's thoughts you have had encounters with in other forums. plus, aren't you in bryan-college station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 Another take of the new rail plan.http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/e...outlook/3250310I like the fact that he points out that once the BRT lines are upgraded to rail, the BRT can be redeployed in another area to expand the transit system quicker. Like the writer, the more I look at this, the more I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 That's could point about reusing the BRT. It's like their expansion vehicles. It would allow METRO to try out new lines without buy expensive rail cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 That was a very good article and I think it is a good idea to use the BRT as expansion lines further down the line in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_oneal Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 That was a very good article and I think it is a good idea to use the BRT as expansion lines further down the line in the future.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>i was listening to this report on the radio this a.m. let me get this new plan proposal right...?the new plan calls for them going ahead and building the tracks, covering them (with asphalt and sensors for the BRT presumably?), and then later --after the buses are running okay, they will uncover the tracks and use trains on them?this sounds like a lot of work. am i mistaken on the new plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Removing the asphalt isn't that expensive. One LRT would probably cost more than removing asphalt on the tracks. One maching making one or two passes would remove all the asphalt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houstonian in Iraq Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Just read the article......I'm sold. The good thing about the plan is we have Delay and other oponents working with us now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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