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Parc Binz I & II: Offices With Retail At Binz And Chenevert


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I found this proposal while skimming LoopNet a while ago.

Supposedly, someone wants to build a small medical office building with retail & a garage at that location with the aim of opening by early 2013. The brochure hints at a Phase Two that would be an "event center, bar/lounge" that would have retail.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w208/houtosme/ParcBinzOne.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w208/houtosme/ParcBinzOneA.jpg

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I saw that all of the large signs at the site have been removed, and there are new "For Lease" signs at the apartments on the corner. Is this project dead already?

The project is located on Binz, which becomes Bissonnet. And if Bissonnet can't handle the traffic of a few hundred apartment units with user densities per square foot of less than half that of office space, then clearly it can't handle this. Obviously there was some bad press brewing over the matter, and obviously that prompted the developer to scrap his idea. The City would never have permitted such a structure there under such circumstances. No sir...

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To nitpick: Why Parc?

Unless it's an acronym, that spelling should be confined to Paris or Montreal. The pretentiousness is embarrassing.

Taqueria, Cucina, Bistro, Ristorante, Chaucer Street, Jacinto City, Plaza, etc. Last time I was in New Orleans, there were at least two French spellings of names. We've been lexical borrowing for centuries. :wub:

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If this project is dead, then it's the second office/retail project to be cancelled on that section of Binz. The other was on "Binz Med Corp" near Binz and Crawford and the sign was also removed after a year or so after it was announced with no other information about what happened.

Actually their website still exists... http://binzmedcorp.com/main.html

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The project is located on Binz, which becomes Bissonnet. And if Bissonnet can't handle the traffic of a few hundred apartment units with user densities per square foot of less than half that of office space, then clearly it can't handle this. Obviously there was some bad press brewing over the matter, and obviously that prompted the developer to scrap his idea. The City would never have permitted such a structure there under such circumstances. No sir...

Binz has four lanes of traffic as opposed to the two that exist at Bissonnet @ Ashby.

The cross streets near this proposal include major North/South thoroughfares as Crawford, Austin, LaBranch, and San Jacinto. It's four city blocks West of 288 and 5 East of the existing light rail. The neighborhood is already MIXED use with condos, museums, apartments, hospitals, offices, and some older single family homes. This location is NOTHING like the Ashby Tower location and you come across as very disingenuous.

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If this project is dead, then it's the second office/retail project to be cancelled on that section of Binz. The other was on "Binz Med Corp" near Binz and Crawford and the sign was also removed after a year or so after it was announced with no other information about what happened.

Actually their website still exists... http://binzmedcorp.com/main.html

too bad. it's a shame it's not going up. looks nice.

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Binz has four lanes of traffic as opposed to the two that exist at Bissonnet @ Ashby.

The cross streets near this proposal include major North/South thoroughfares as Crawford, Austin, LaBranch, and San Jacinto. It's four city blocks West of 288 and 5 East of the existing light rail. The neighborhood is already MIXED use with condos, museums, apartments, hospitals, offices, and some older single family homes. This location is NOTHING like the Ashby Tower location and you come across as very disingenuous.

Umm... Yeah... I was speaking tounge-in-cheek.

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Didn't realize someone tried to go "Ashby" on this one and get a movement against the project going. Even has it's own little "evil structure looming over neighborhood" art as well, even if it does look make it look like the Brave Little Toaster had 'roid rage or something.

 

http://stopparcbinz.org/

 

Probably speaks to how well it went since I only found this after the crane's up and work has begun...

 

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Didn't realize someone tried to go "Ashby" on this one and get a movement against the project going. Even has it's own little "evil structure looming over neighborhood" art as well, even if it does look make it look like the Brave Little Toaster had 'roid rage or something.

 

http://stopparcbinz.org/

 

Probably speaks to how well it went since I only found this after the crane's up and work has begun...

 

Interesting that someone would fight this 6-story building when there's a 35-story condominium a block away. 

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I mean is 6 stories a high-rise ?

 

I believe most building codes define "high rise" as any structure which has an occupied floor higher than what can be reached by a ladder truck. This has implications in protected egress (exiting) a building such as the number of stair wells, whether sprinkler systems are required, etc. So a 6 story building could be a high rise depending on the height of the 6th floor from ground level.

 

By the way, most codes in use today heavily favor sprinkler systems in buildings.

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There is, of course, no set definition of "high-rise" or "mid-rise" or "low-rise".  But I think one can safely say that in the Houston real estate world, very few would consider a 6 story building to be a high-rise.

 

A high-rise is defined as a structure at least 35 metres (115 ft) or 12 stories tall.

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A high-rise is defined as a structure at least 35 metres (115 ft) or 12 stories tall.

 

That sounds reasonable but defined by whom? I would think different entities would have slight variations on the definition of a high-rise building.

 

The National Fire Protection Agency (NFPA) document 5000 defines a high-rise building as one where the highest floor capable of being occupied "is greater than 75 feet (23 meters) above the lowest level of fire department vehicle access." As an aside, 75 feet usually equates to about 6 stories in modern American commercial buildings.

 

What this particular definition means is that if a piece of fire apparatus (a ladder truck for example) can access the first floor, and the building height is greater than 75 feet (23 meters) above that floor, then the building is considered a high rise for the purpose of determining which fire protection methods are required. The NFPA does not necessarily dictate these measures but individual municipalities usually adopt them as part of their life safety code requirements.

 

Of course there can be different definitions of high-rise buildings depending on other factors such as sight lines, shading of neighboring properties, etc. In any case the code definition of a high-rise building takes precedence over any other definition for the purposes of life safety and fire protection.

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I went to Emporis' web site. They seem to be a self-proclaimed expert on commercial buildings. If their definition of a high rise is accepted by the industry for the purposes of marketing, etc. I have to take it as valid for those purposes as well. Just know that there is more than one definition of a high-rise building, some of which have important legal implications.

Back to the topic of this thread: Parc Binz One would seem to be a mid-rise then. I'm pleased to see it and other structures of similar size going up along this street. The seem appropriate in scale for the neighborhood.

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I went to Emporis' web site. They seem to be a self-proclaimed expert on commercial buildings. If their definition of a high rise is accepted by the industry for the purposes of marketing, etc. I have to take it as valid for those purposes as well. Just know that there is more than one definition of a high-rise building, some of which have important legal implications.

Back to the topic of this thread: Parc Binz One would seem to be a mid-rise then. I'm pleased to see it and other structures of similar size going up along this street. The seem appropriate in scale for the neighborhood.

 

It is widely accepted that 115 ft is the height required to be called a highrise. I don't think there is an exact definition though.

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I'm not upset about the rendering changing from modern to every "midrise" building built in Germany in the 60's. It looks kind of funky, and interesting. Looking forward to seeing how the colors turn out. Is there a part of the newer rendering that includes the garage?

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