7-Story Multifamily Development At 3300 Montrose Blvd.

[Houston19514]

On 5/4/2022 at 6:08 AM, arche_757 said:

I know this is quite preliminary (still), but hope the sidewalks aren’t the “Houston standard” as depicted in the above plan.

To be clear, the "Houston standard" along Montrose Boulevard in this location would be 6 feet wide, which is what the plan appears to provide.

Edited October 5, 2022 by Houston19514

[talltexan83]

I am just glad there are no vehicle entrances/driveways along Montrose.  I see that as a win.

[Luminare]

On 5/4/2022 at 5:08 AM, arche_757 said:

I know this is quite preliminary (still), but hope the sidewalks aren’t the “Houston standard” as depicted in the above plan.

That was probably the plan they drafted to do below:

On 8/14/2021 at 1:57 PM, hindesky said:

The city is repaving and replacing the sidewalks on Yoakum St, they are also replacing the sidewalks on Montrose from the old Kroger to Westheimer.

 

[hindesky]

I puller over to talk with the woman that has been protesting the demolishing the old Kroger's for a long time. I told her what is proposed here. She told me that as long as the man upstairs has a say in it this won't get developed.

[mkultra25]

36 minutes ago, hindesky said:

I puller over to talk with the woman that has been protesting the demolishing the old Kroger's for a long time. I told her what is proposed here. She told me that as long as the man upstairs has a say in it this won't get developed.

She seems to be fond of Proverbs 23:10, which in the KJV is "Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless." (many alternate versions here). Who would have ever thought we'd have someone literally citing chapter and verse in defense of Disco Kroger? Ezekiel 23:20 is probably more appropriate for that location. 

Edited June 28, 2022 by mkultra25

[Urbannizer]

I guess she doesn’t realize she lost the battle once they demolished the Kroger’s.

[hindesky]

Back at it once again. Sign she is holding says "Jim Crow Residential".

[toxtethogrady]

I never thought I'd see 1979 as a long time ago. I guess I'm an "old landmark"...

[thatguysly]

As far as landmarks go, a lot of people knew about Disco Kroger for better or worse. I do wish the new development here kept a grocery on the street level. I loved being able to walk here and get groceries for years.

[004n063]

32 minutes ago, thatguysly said:

As far as landmarks go, a lot of people knew about Disco Kroger for better or worse. I do wish the new development here kept a grocery on the street level. I loved being able to walk here and get groceries for years.

There's still the next block over, which would be an even better location for a grocery store, in my opinion (especially if it either buried the parking like the Midtown Whole Foods, or else "hid" it behind..).

But I definitely agree that that part of Montrose needs a grocery store. It's just a little too far from each of the three closest ones. 

[hindesky]

Looks like this will be moving forward.

https://www.southeastern.company/portfolio/montrose-houston/

[Texasota]

I want this building to stay called "SIGNAGE"

[004n063]

Kinda underwhelming for the location, but it's better than a parking lot

[HNathoo]

3 hours ago, hindesky said:

Looks like this will be moving forward.

https://www.southeastern.company/portfolio/montrose-houston/

Apparently it’s located in downtown, montrose, and the museum district. Which sub forum will be assign this to? 

[houstontexasjack]

2 minutes ago, HNathoo said:

Apparently it’s located in downtown, montrose, and the museum district. Which sub forum will be assign this to? 

I propose a new name : “Schrödinger’s Complex”

[hindesky]

I have a friend who lives in the suburbs who called Kirby Dr. at Westheimer downtown when I asked which restaurant they went to over a weekend. Another one who recently started at Methodist in TMC, took some pics and sent them to me, I asked where, he said downtown. Most people that live outside the loop consider everything in it downtown and don't know anything regarding neighborhoods.

[kennyc05]

53 minutes ago, hindesky said:

I have a friend who lives in the suburbs who called Kirby Dr. at Westheimer downtown when I asked which restaurant they went to over a weekend. Another one who recently started at Methodist in TMC, took some pics and sent them to me, I asked where, he said downtown. Most people that live outside the loop consider everything in it downtown and don't know anything regarding neighborhoods.

When I worked in Laporte/Deer Park years ago I had a coworker tell me "🤠 hell all that stuff over there is downtown" meaning everything inside the loop 🤦🏽‍♂️

[skooljunkie]

A relative of mine once referred to Southwest Memorial as being “downtown” and I was super confused. But now she’s in a psych ward so, yeah. 

[thatguysly]

I was hoping for bigger and at a bare minimum GFR. Very basic and forgettable design. Shame that the legendary Disco Kroger is being replaced with something that no one will remember exists.

[hindesky]

Spotted surveyor stakes on the corners.

[hindesky]

She definitely has perseverance, seems like she shows up at least once a week. I don't have the heart to tell her what the plans are. 

 

[004n063]

6 hours ago, hindesky said:

She definitely has perseverance, seems like she shows up at least once a week. I don't have the heart to tell her what the plans are. 

 

If somebody wants to go out there and counterprotest with one sign that just says "Nah" with an arrow pointing at her signs, I'll give you like 18 bucks.

[Urbannizer]

https://www.southeastern.company/portfolio/montrose-houston/

 

[cityliving]

I was hoping for at least ten stories with retail/ restaurants on the street level, but I guess it is what it is.

Edited September 8, 2022 by cityliving

[thatguysly]

The lack of GFR is really disappointing. Of all places, this one makes a lot of sense to have GFR.

[clutchcity94]

8 hours ago, Urbannizer said:

https://www.southeastern.company/portfolio/montrose-houston/

 

This is less impressive than 4641 Montrose!

[cityliving]

I wonder if the WAMM civic association had any meetings with the developer of this project? I would think that the developer would want to get feedback from the neighborhood.

[Sanjorade]

Garbage on a prime lot. Would be better to keep it vacant. 

[Texasota]

That's ridiculous. It's hundreds of homes in a perfectly fine building. Is it less than it should have been? Absolutely. But it's a whole hell of a lot better than a vacant block.

[EllenOlenska]

Folks, it’s in-fill

[cityliving]

I don’t like seeing empty lots with weeds being undeveloped as well, but I also don’t like seeing poor planning developments by developers where they don’t take into consideration the neighborhood in which they build.

[Urbannizer]

1 hour ago, Texasota said:

That's ridiculous. It's hundreds of homes in a perfectly fine building. Is it less than it should have been? Absolutely. But it's a whole hell of a lot better than a vacant block.

Agreed. With Skanska planning a good amount of retail next door, Montrose Collective a few blocks over and a number of shops and restaurants within walking distance the area will be fine without it here. 

[swtsig]

This is exactly what I would have expected for this lot, especially w what Skanska is planning next door. Decent infill, nothing more, nothing less, and what this area needs.

[Texasota]

1 hour ago, cityliving said:

don’t take into consideration the neighborhood in which they build.

What does that mean?

[mkultra25]

51 minutes ago, Texasota said:

What does that mean?

They value-engineered the crystal chandelier and ice jets out of the South Beach-lite ballroom that everyone was hoping for. 

[Big E]

I mean, its fine. They could have definitely done more with it though, considering the sheer size of the lot and its great location near such a busy intersection. GFR, more floors, anything really. Its just another dime a dozen wrap around apartment block. We'll all forget it exists half a decade from now.

[Houston19514]

13 hours ago, trymahjong said:

Geez

i was hoping more tweaking might've been done also. The corner of Montrose and Fairview really flooded during Harvey-- more green space might help that, especially if Texas native trees  and plants are used. 
 

Perhaps  Mr Farb could follow Mr Random example (Montrose collective) and donate a completely architecturally Devine bus stop for the community.
 Another thought.....my understanding is ALL NEW  sidewalks must be 5' width-- so additional green space would accommodate  that ......where would all this additional green space be found........? Perhaps making building footprint smaller  and building itself taller?  Tall enough to have 360 degree unobstructed view?l from that roof top swimming pool teaming with mature palm trees?
of course that  type of design might scream for more on site parking......open sided parking that might collect rainwater and allow for tumbling, hanging greenery that would provide a square block that would be 15% cooler than the other blocks during Houston's swelter summers?   Finally, all that "tweaking of the design" might produce a unique large multi planted  lobby, that would be made available to the occasional community meeting..................oh no I'm urban development daydreaming again- sigh.

I think you’re in the wrong thread

[clutchcity94]

Is this rendering “final final”? I feel like with how low the stock market is today compared to what it was when disco Kroger was demolished last year, they should just wait it out for a market rebound instead of settling for this mediocre rendering.  Same logic for why a lot of tech start ups are holding off on IPOs this year.

Edited September 11, 2022 by clutchcity94

[hindesky]

A crew of workers are on site digging with a mini track hoe.

 

 

Looks like Southeastern or a company affiliated with Southeastern from Augusta, Georgia (where Southeastern is located)bought the corner lot.

Edited September 19, 2022 by hindesky

[hindesky]

[hindesky]

New proposed plat.

[clutchcity94]

I still for the life of me can’t understand why they’re only building a 6-story building in an area that’s building highrises all over. 

Edited October 5, 2022 by clutchcity94

[wilcal]

Also, not sure why they are doing a 25' BL along the northern edge. Only a 10' is required for reserves along a minor collector. 

[hindesky]

1 hour ago, wilcal said:

Also, not sure why they are doing a 25' BL along the northern edge. Only a 10' is required for reserves along a minor collector. 

Based on this render it looks like 8-10' of landscaping next to the curb, +-8' sidewalk and about 5' of more landscaping. Also the main driveway is on Lovett St.

[dbigtex56]

This project will have to be spectacular if MPR Consultants want to atone for their neglect of this lot, which seems to indicate an indifference (at best) for its neighbors and the neighborhood in general.

[j_cuevas713]

7 hours ago, clutchcity94 said:

I still for the life of me can’t understand why they’re only building a 6-story building in an area that’s building highrises all over. 

I'm more disappointed at the lack of GFR

[kennyc05]

1 hour ago, dbigtex56 said:

This project will have to be spectacular if MPR Consultants want to atone for their neglect of this lot, which seems to indicate an indifference (at best) for its neighbors and the neighborhood in general.

 

1 hour ago, j_cuevas713 said:

I'm more disappointed at the lack of GFR

 

Let's all send emails 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

 

 

[Houston19514]

17 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

I'm more disappointed at the lack of GFR

Do we actually know there is no ground-floor retail in this?  FWIW, the very first report on this project said there would be retail on the ground floor on Montrose.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Houston19514

[hindesky]

Architect - https://dcsdesign.com
 

Edited October 11, 2022 by hindesky

[toxtethogrady]

The Disco Kroger

Plans for the former site of the “Disco Kroger” — once arguably the most famous grocery store in Houston — have been finalized.

Georgia-based developer Southeastern plans to turn the site of the former 24-hour Kroger — which for nearly 40 years was frequented mostly by late-night and early-morning shoppers leaving nearby Montrose neighborhood LGBTQ bars and clubs when they closed for the night — into a seven-story $68 million mid-rise apartment complex, with two parking garages...