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That is excellent news. I am glad that metro is now trying to get more TODs built, hopefully if it works out they will try to build more.

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I wish they would do someting like this around the Wheeller station.

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Well, since Wheeler Station is the proposed terminal connection for the Westpark-Uptown extension, I tend to doubt that anything major will go up there before that new segment is built. At that point, it probably would make an excellent site for a major mixed-use development.

First things first, though: the Camden development on the superblock needs to get started so that the idea of implementing new residential and retail along the rail line will gain even more steam.

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METRO owns a lot of land at the Wheeler station and near it. They've said in the past they'd be exploring development options for that property as well, but I think it's considered to be a lower priority project than the TMC Transit Center project.

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Mixed use complex

To be constructed over light rail facility

Located in the Texas Medical Center

Construction cost of $105 million

In a joint development with Transwestern Development Company and The Metropolitan Transit Authority (Metro), Kirksey is designing the new mixed-use complex that will be constructed over an existing light rail transit facility on Fannin in the Texas Medical Center. Under the agreement, Transwestern will lease air space from Metro above the transit center for 99 years. Estimated at $105 million, the development will house hotel, residential, retail and medical office components and will connect by a skybridge to the surrounding Medical Center.

http://www.kirksey.c..._transit_center

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Yeah I don't see this happening.

I don't know if they'll find the financing, but there are a lot of unserved needs in the Med Center because square footage is at such a premium. I could see this working.

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culturemap confirms that at one point it was planned to happen:

A deal has been struck between Transwestern and METRO to develop the space over the bus bays with a hotel and office space. This will require extensive rebuilding of the facilities, but when it happens, the station will be quite the statement.

http://culturemap.com/mapdetail/metrorail-tmc-transit-center/

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Mixed use complex

To be constructed over light rail facility

Located in the Texas Medical Center

Construction cost of $105 million

In a joint development with Transwestern Development Company and The Metropolitan Transit Authority (Metro), Kirksey is designing the new mixed-use complex that will be constructed over an existing light rail transit facility on Fannin in the Texas Medical Center. Under the agreement, Transwestern will lease air space from Metro above the transit center for 99 years. Estimated at $105 million, the development will house hotel, residential, retail and medical office components and will connect by a skybridge to the surrounding Medical Center.

http://www.kirksey.c..._transit_center

Yes, the Transwestern/Kirksey team was one of the final four selected by METRO from dozens of applicants to present competing plans. In 2006, I think it was. After each of these firms had spent gobs of money to plan a development that only might have been selected (which is your cue that METRO was fully planning on selling the land below market value), an engineering report came out that determined that METRO's seven-figure expenditure to over-engineer the transit center so that a highrise could be built directly on top of it without interrupting service was wholly inadequate to that purpose. All of the proposed projects were too tall and too heavy to be feasible on the site. By that time, however, the point was moot. METRO had not communicated their intent to build an under-parked highrise with the Texas Medical Center, Inc. (per a written agreement) and so the TMC exercised their right to veto the project.

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Yes, the Transwestern/Kirksey team was one of the final four selected by METRO from dozens of applicants to present competing plans. In 2006, I think it was. After each of these firms had spent gobs of money to plan a development that only might have been selected (which is your cue that METRO was fully planning on selling the land below market value), an engineering report came out that determined that METRO's seven-figure expenditure to over-engineer the transit center so that a highrise could be built directly on top of it without interrupting service was wholly inadequate to that purpose. All of the proposed projects were too tall and too heavy to be feasible on the site. By that time, however, the point was moot. METRO had not communicated their intent to build an under-parked highrise with the Texas Medical Center, Inc. (per a written agreement) and so the TMC exercised their right to veto the project.

Is there anything - ANYTHING - the Metro cannot bungle?

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Houston needs another oil boom. A big one.

I think it's coming with the way they're talking about gas prices going up.

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This would be spectacular. But I would rather focus on building the Intermodal Terminal/light rail lines first.

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This would be spectacular. But I would rather focus on building the Intermodal Terminal/light rail lines first.

Normally,i would agree if this was proposed any place else, but the med center is starved for space.

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It could happen. If the funding is provided, I see this place being leased and used quickly. The TMC is much more in demand than some CBD areas. And a somewhat of an Intermodal (not really) station here would look nice. More like exactly what its called, a transit center.

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Hopefully this happens.

The transit companies in a lot of big cities use their transit property to build real estate, and then use the real estate money to run the transit operations.

Think about the World Trade Center in New York -- owned by the NY/NJ Port Authority.

MTR in Hong Kong has a bunch of developments with thousands of apartments and offices. One of the more recent ones includes a 120-story building.

If it keeps Metro from having to beg the voters/taxpayers for more money, then I'm all in favor of it getting into the real estate business.

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Forgive me if there is a topic for this already, but does anybody know what this is?

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From Kirksey's website:
 

 

Houston, Texas

65,000 sf

Mixed use complex
To be constructed over light rail facility
Located in the Texas Medical Center
Construction cost of $105 million

 

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Yea super old and gone. Kirksey seems to be the company that keeps ancient dead projects on their website and elsewhere.

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Yea super old and gone. Kirksey seems to be the company that keeps ancient dead projects on their website and elsewhere.

 

All firms keep dead projects on their portfolios. They should be kept in the "On Boards" sections. Even failed projects should still be shown. It displays what work firms have pursued.

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All firms keep dead projects on their portfolios. They should be kept in the "On Boards" sections. Even failed projects should still be shown. It displays what work firms have pursued.

 

Yea... at least shouldn't be mixed in with active projects.

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too bad too. I really find this project interesting. I often use the transit center in the TMC and wonder how this project  would have gone over.

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^^^ if allowed to proceed forward, this prospective GATEWAY STATION at the TMC development would/should become an instant tourist destination in itself.  just think about it for a second... incorporating the right mix of hospitality/transit/retail... who wouldn't want to be here?

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Hopefully this is real and not old and expired.  I can't imagine the transformation of the Texas Medical Center if this project, TMC3 and just one of mixed use projects were all U/C at the same time.  The TMC is truly becoming more of an international marvel, what an exciting time to be in Houston.

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Beautiful design. Will be an asset for the TMC. Nevertheless they better put some decent ventilation or the gas fumes from the buses will be obnoxious. 

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Would be nice if some of the other transit centers got this treatment.

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2 hours ago, gclass said:

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^^^ if allowed to proceed forward, this prospective GATEWAY STATION at the TMC development would/should become an instant tourist destination in itself.  just think about it for a second... incorporating the right mix of hospitality/transit/retail... who wouldn't want to be here?

(squints eyes): Monarch...is that you?

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37 minutes ago, houstontexasjack said:

(squints eyes): Monarch...is that you?

^^^ actually, it's the NEW me.  "monarch" is now considered antiquated, and GCLASS is more aligned with my avatar.  therefore, open your "eyes" (fully) and feast upon the new horizon...    

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3 minutes ago, Timoric said:

Is this a close walk to the TMC 3 DNA strand building?

 

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probably between 10-12mins

 

I consider that walkable. This is why I've been making the argument that Metro should shift the lightrail to go down Fannin instead of of Greenbriar. Would make more sense and would help catch more ridership once that area is built up more.

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I agree that is where they should have build it, but a mile of light rail track costs about $122 million if Metro's estimates are right.  A medical center people mover or a branded shuttle might be a better answer than laying parallel track - you can get a nice shuttle bus for $122 million

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1 hour ago, brijonmang said:

What an upgrade this would be.  Let's keep this momentum going!

 

You referring to monarch or the hotel?

 

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When can they do something with the downtown transit center? the whole 1 to 2 block radius with bus station etc is 🤢🤮

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52 minutes ago, H-Town Man said:

 

You referring to monarch or the hotel?

 

Touché

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15 minutes ago, gene said:

When can they do something with the downtown transit center? the whole 1 to 2 block radius with bus station etc is 🤢🤮

 

The bus bays definitely need a refresh, but the block immediately north of the Downtown TC is owned by a private company and is targeted for a midrise apartment building.

 

It would be nice to get all the different long distance buses under one roof with good waiting areas & pick up - Megabus is pretty busy there on the corner, the greyhound station is not great,  and now a new service Flixbus is going to start, but leaving from next to Buffalo Wild Wings in midtown. 

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1 hour ago, cspwal said:

 

The bus bays definitely need a refresh, but the block immediately north of the Downtown TC is owned by a private company and is targeted for a midrise apartment building.

 

It would be nice to get all the different long distance buses under one roof with good waiting areas & pick up - Megabus is pretty busy there on the corner, the greyhound station is not great,  and now a new service Flixbus is going to start, but leaving from next to Buffalo Wild Wings in midtown. 

 

I thought Flixbus was going to leave from close to Rice U?

 

Anyway, I'm very excited that Flixbus is coming to town. I used Flixbus extensively while in Germany. Great Service, and if you wanted to just go exploring for cheap then it was a great alternative. Would be interesting if they started a shuttle to Galveston. I would totally use a Flixbus to go down to Galveston or Kemah for that matter.

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There's two stops - one from Rice and one from 605 Gray st

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On 3/8/2019 at 11:01 AM, gene said:

When can they do something with the downtown transit center? the whole 1 to 2 block radius with bus station etc is 🤢🤮

 I don't know if it has anything to do with the Greyhound Bus Station or the new bar going up at Webster and Travis, but the block between the two (with the car rental place) is being cleaned up. The dirt and rubbish are being swept out. Does anyone know what's going on here?

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How did this thread about a TMC Transit Center development turn into a discussion about the Greyhound bus station in Midtown???  They’re about four miles apart.

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