FilioScotia Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) It appears big changes are ahead for public radio in Houston. The University of Houston is making plans to purchase KTRU from Rice University for just under ten million dollars, change the call letters to KUHC, and move it into the same studios with KUHF Radio. The plan is to put all news and NPR programming on KUHF 88.7 FM, and put classical music and arts programs on KUHC 91.7 FM. They haven't announced a timetable for this change, but it's going to take well into next year for all these changes to be made. As someone who worked at KUHF for many years, and retired just recently, I can testify that things move very slowly there. I will be surprised if this brave new world comes to pass before the end of 2011. When the change is finally complete, this will resolve one of KUHF's longest running problems: trying to keep two very different audience groups happy. There are a lot of people in Houston who would listen to NPR programs 24/7 if it were available, and they've complained long and loudly for years about the paucity of NPR programs on KUHF. It appears KUHF is going to grant their wish. At the same time, there are those who love the classical music, and they've complained long and loudly for years that they don't get enough of it on KUHF, and that KUHF should be all classical 24/7. These people will also get their wish. Glory hallelujah !KUHF is now taking a bold step in the direction of making both those groups happy. It's true that KUHF does now offer all of NPR's daytime programs on its HD2 channel, but almost nobody listens to HD radio because HD radios are so expensive, and those who have them complain that their reception is so spotty and uneven. Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think KUHF's large investment in HD technology has been a huge waste of money. It's just not working out the way they hoped. Yes there are people who listen to the HD2 programs, but not in numbers large enough to justify the cost. In fact, most of the people who DO LISTEN to the HD channels are listening on the station's website. Unless HD technology is improved drastically, and the cost of receiving it comes down drastically, I don't think it has a future. It will end up on the scrap heap, along with other gimmicks that didn't work out. Remember AM stereo? And Quadriphonic Sound? It would appear that KUHF managers are finally accepting this reality. Dividing the news and music formats between two FM stations is the most logical, the most simple and most workable solution. I applaud them for having the courage to make this decision and move forward with it. Somewhere, Friar William of Ockham is smiling. Here's a link to this story in today's Chron. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7156105.html Edited August 17, 2010 by FilioScotia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 From Rice:Rice University officials announced today that the University of Houston System plans to buy the radio tower, FM frequency and license used by Rice University station KTRU, which will continue to operate online at www.ktru.org.The sale must be approved by the UH Board of Regents at its meeting today.“KTRU will continue to serve its loyal listeners with its unique student-managed programming through the Internet,” said Vice President for Public Affairs Linda Thrane. "And money from the sale will go toward programs and facilities that benefit our students and campus community."In conversations with students and others, Rice leaders have identified several priority areas, she said. That includes helping pay for the new East Servery, which is adjacent to Lovett and Will Rice residential colleges on the south campus, scholarships, improvements to recreational facilities and enhancements to the online station and other student media. A student committee will be formed to provide input.Recent Arbitron reports have shown that the 50,000-watt station’s audience is often too small to be measured. Arbitron is a research firm that measures network and local radio audiences to compile ratings for the radio industry. Most college radio stations around the country have less than 5,000 watts, and since the late '90s a number have added the online format. A report by Arbitron and Edison Research indicated that last year approximately 42 million people listened to online radio weekly -- twice the number who did in 2005.http://www.media.rice.edu/media/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=14643rice.edu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Hmmm, not liking this move. My own selfish reason is because I'm a big fan of a couple KTRU shows. Luckily they'll still maintain an online format. I like that Rice radio's content is created and managed largely by students. On the one hand, I wouldn't begrudge UH adding more classical programming. I listen to the drive time NPR news shows and enjoy them, but I'm not at all interested in seeing them expand only to buy more NPR content. Dollars to donuts they end up having to fill time with multiple airings of Prairie Home Companion. Bleh. The lack of student-created content and student management on both their TV and radio station is unfortunate for a University with communications and fine arts schools. Especially for public stations in a city the size of Houston where sources of local arts and cultural programming are virtually limitless.Maybe we'll be pleasantly surpised and UH will do something interesting rather than fill the time with off-the-shelf stuff. NPR (and Pacifica) produces some good shows, but I want more local presence in my public radio, not less. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 First heard about this possibility about a month ago. KTRU through the years has really gone down the tubes. Back in the 70's and 80's it was incredible. I even bought a special antenna just so I could pick it up. (It had a very weak signal back then). It filled a void for rock and roll music that was never heard on commercial radio. Now even Rice students don't listen to it. It's pretty much a joke on campus and I don't think anyone will miss it except the 10 people that actually do listen to it.I do hope KUHF keeps it's Saturday night format of Pulling Strings and Thistle & Shamrock. I love those two shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Maybe we'll be pleasantly surpised and UH will do something interesting rather than fill the time with off-the-shelf stuff. If not, 97.1 will inch up into the first six on my presets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standeck Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) Consensus seems to be KTRU should maintain an online web stream and a 5,000 watt local transmitter that could be heard throughout the Rice campus and Village area. Having a 50,000 watt license is not economically efficient for a station that only appeals to college students, the terminally hip and other misfits ("Get offa my lawn" ™) Edited August 17, 2010 by Standeck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arisegundo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 The sale was approved 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porchman Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 HPR's press release. "We now have the cultural assets to deliver NPR news, public affairs and classical programming to Houston 24 hours a day, placing the University of Houston in the company of an elite group of Tier One universities," [Chancellor] Khator said. You knew she had to go there. I am intrigued to see how HPR maps out its new formatting. I believe it will enhance Houston radio. I am a bit pensive about the loss of KTRU. I realize that the technology of today offers different media for broadcast and for listener access. However, back in the day, it was a station like KTRU which exposed me to the stuff that was not mainstream. That exposure was significant to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 A 'Tier 1' university with graduate degrees in comm, RTF and fine/dramatic arts should have student-runmedia first, and external programming and management second. The worst part of this is, with 2 stations to fund, the beg-a-thons are going to be twice as insufferable. Is that even possible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) For anyone who likes Ch. 13, here is an old-time news update with Dave Ward back on April 25, 1989: This KTRK news update video with the enlarged Texas flag behind the Circle 13 logo debuted in 1986 (either in the spring or summer of that year I'm not sure). Edited August 17, 2010 by Blue Dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 A 'Tier 1' university with graduate degrees in comm, RTF and fine/dramatic arts should have student-runmedia first, and external programming and management second. The worst part of this is, with 2 stations to fund, the beg-a-thons are going to be twice as insufferable. Is that even possible?Most large college media departments no longer thing of television, or especially radio, as "media" anymore. I know schools that have eliminated dozens of broadcasting, writing, and journalism classes in their media departments in the last five years. Instead, they're teaching the kids how to video blog and use Twitter and Facebook, as if those are skills that an employer looks for (they aren't.)Oh, and FWIW -- Bring back K-Arts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porchman Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 The worst part of this is, with 2 stations to fund, the beg-a-thons are going to be twice as insufferable. Is that even possible?I'm not so sure about that. They already are running a bulk of the programming on their two HD stations. They pay for the programs according to the size of the market. With greater accessibility, they could actually achieve a more efficient funding with listeners who just want news/commentary or just want arts/culture or want either on demand. There may be an opportunity to maximize grants, as well.They could also draw listeners from other news stations. However, many of these stations tend to cater to those who say "oh yeah!" to those who uphold their opinion...like they're listening to a good jazz sax solo. Still, I noted that Nandita Berry opposed UH's purchase of the station. (http://blogs.houston..._approve_pu.php) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 It filled a void for rock and roll music that was never heard on commercial radio.It still does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 A petition against this was made - 861 signatures so far:http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/KTRU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 A petition against this was made - 861 signatures so far:http://www.petitions.../petitions/KTRUi don't see how a petition will change an existing business agreement between two parties. if a little ktru-ness were honored in the new station, i'd be behind that completely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) if a little ktru-ness were honored in the new station, i'd be behind that completely!Don't count on that. KUHF will continue to be KUHF, and KUHC will become its twin. KUHF will have News and NPR, KUHC will have classical music. You won't notice any difference. Some people here think student-run media is a good thing. Student-run media is fine, if you don't care whether people listen or not. The truth is that almost nobody outside a handful of Rice students and young alumni listen to KTRU. I say "young alumni" because at some point, adults out-grow the campus radio they listened to in school. KUHF is the huge success it is precisely because it is not run by students and volunteers, and it does not program to the campus community. KUHF is a viable radio station that's competing head-to-head for ratings and revenue with every other station in town, and its audience is phenomenal. It's accomplishing this because it's aiming its programming to the general public, and it's doing it extremely well. With the largest full time News Department in town, KUHF is now -- officially -- the only "News-Talk" radio station in Houston. KTRH has abdicated that title. KUHF has achieved this because it has a full time news staff made up of paid radio professionals with many years of experience in commercial and public radio. The only students at KUHF are carefully selected interns learning from the pros how to cover, write and report radio news. And their News managers have a knack for picking very talented and committed young interns who are going to have a future in the radio business. In fact, many of KUHF's interns have moved on to full time radio jobs around the country. And those people pushing a petition to stop the sale of KTRU, are they serious? Do they actually think a petition will change the Rice Regents' mind? Most discouraging is the fact that more than 800 people have signed it. Edited August 18, 2010 by FilioScotia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Yep, and almost 1,300 signatures in 13 hours. Ya know, I usually listen to KTRU streaming on the internet anyhow (like most radio for me these days).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 KUHF will continue to be KUHF, and KUHC will become its twin. KUHF will have News and NPR, KUHC will have classical music. I think this is a good thing. Houston needs a full-time music station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Yep, and almost 1,300 signatures in 13 hours. Ya know, I usually listen to KTRU streaming on the internet anyhow (like most radio for me these days)..Yep...1,300 utterly meaningless signatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Don't forget the Facebook page:http://www.facebook.com/pages/Houston-TX/Save-KTRU/120881504627611 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Hmmm, not liking this move. My own selfish reason is because I'm a big fan of a couple KTRU shows. Luckily they'll still maintain an online format. I like that Rice radio's content is created and managed largely by students. On the one hand, I wouldn't begrudge UH adding more classical programming. I listen to the drive time NPR news shows and enjoy them, but I'm not at all interested in seeing them expand only to buy more NPR content. Dollars to donuts they end up having to fill time with multiple airings of Prairie Home Companion. Bleh. Well in all fairness NPR does have additional programming throughout the day that doesn't make it into Houston. That said, I take your point that multiple airings of "Prairie Home Companion" would drive anyone to madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I suppose they will have to ramp up the fundraising even more, now that they'll be buying more content from NPR and maybe APM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 It still does.Ha. That's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) Well in all fairness NPR does have additional programming throughout the day that doesn't make it into Houston. That said, I take your point that multiple airings of "Prairie Home Companion" would drive anyone to madness.KUHF does carry most of NPR's entire daily schedule. Morning Edition and ATC on 88.7 FM, Diane Rehm, Fresh Air and Talk of the Nation on HD2. Only two programs are not heard, right now. On Point and On The Media. I think we can expect both those programs to join the schedule once KUHF goes "all news", and the music is moved to the new station.This might be a shock to some people, but NPR isn't the only public radio network out there. There's a bunch of them. KUHF buys most of its programs from NPR, but some of its most popular programs come from American Public Media and Public Radio International. APM produces A Prairie Home Companion, Writer's Almanac, Market Place, Performance Today, Pipe Dreams, Saint Paul Sunday, and some others. PRI produces This American Life, Living on Earth, The World, BBC Newshour, BBC World Have Your Say, Bob Edwards Weekend, and some others. And don't forget Latino USA and the BBC, both of which are carried on the HD3 channel. All those networks produce more than enough programs to fill out a 24/7 program schedule. As for repeats of APHC, that's been done for years. I share your disdain for that program, but a lot of people out there seem to like it. For years the station was besieged with complaints from listeners unable to catch the "live" broadcast at 5pm on Saturday, so, for the benefit of those people, they started repeating that broadcast at noon on Sunday. It's called "responding to your listeners." What a concept.I think it's probable that at least some of the "undated" feature oriented daytime programs could also be repeated overnight for people who sleep days and work nights. It's worth remembering that millions of people fall into that category.(***I suppose they will have to ramp up the fundraising even more, now that they'll be buying more content from NPR and maybe APM.***)As for fears the fundraising effort will ramp up, KUHF has actually been "ramping down" its semi-annual on-air campaigns in recent years, and raising the goal at the same time. It's now a million dollars, and it's had no trouble making and beating that goal. We can expect the goal to increase even more with the addition of another station, but I don't think the on-air campaigns will change noticeably. For several years now, KUHF has been raising a sizable portion of its funding outside the on-air campaigns, focusing on people and companies who can make large donations. Gold Circle Contributors. As we all read in the paper, all of the $9.5 million dollars needed to buy KTRU will come from private donations. A lot of them. Edited August 18, 2010 by FilioScotia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totheskies Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Did we completely forget about KTSU????? They are jazz mostly, but they also air NPR and PRI programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 KUHF does carry most of NPR's entire daily schedule. Morning Edition and ATC on 88.7 FM, Diane Rehm, Fresh Air and Talk of the Nation on HD2. Only two programs are not heard, right now. On Point and On The Media. I think we can expect both those programs to join the schedule once KUHF goes "all news", and the music is moved to the new station.Yeah, but not everyone has HD radios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) Yeah, but not everyone has HD radios.You are correct, but a lot of people do have PC's, and they can and do listen to the full schedule of NPR programs on the KUHF website. I have retired to East Texas, but I listen to Fresh Air and Talk of the Nation during the day online. I can't take more than 5 minutes of Diane Rehm. It is true that not many people have HD radios because they are so expensive. 50 to a hundred dollars depending on the make. You also need an antenna. TV rabbit ears work well, but even then the reception often leaves a lot to be desired. But I've been told that's why large numbers of people listen to KUHF HD programs online. That's why I don't think HD radio has a future at KUHF. Who needs it when you can listen on the Internet? I predict when KUHF finally has news programs on one station and music on the other sometime in 2012, and both stations are functioning as hoped on all cylinders, they'll drop HD and file it away under Bad Memories. Edited August 18, 2010 by FilioScotia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmer Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Did we completely forget about KTSU????? They are jazz mostly, but they also air NPR and PRI programs.Yes. What s/he said. When discussing the Houston public radio landscape it's important to remember KTSU. "Jazz in all its Colors."I could be wrong, and please correct me if I misremember.My memory of the history of "fine arts" radio in Houston since 1980 was that there was once:A Classical Station: KLEF 94.5, commercial, with ads for high-end retailers like Cadillac dealers. Local radio personalities like John Proffitt and Ira J. Black worked there.A Jazz Station: KUHF 88.7, public, with a strong commitment to jazz and public radio programs.This was before a lot of the more famous current programs like This American Life.A Radical Station: KPFT 90.1. Proud of its hippie anti-establishment cred, home to folk music and a lot of specialized international music shows as well as minority-themed shows.A couple of "college stations." Run by students, not really very powerful, playing whatever the students were interested in. KTRU 91.7 and KTSU 90.1By the mid-80s KLEF was dead; it's absentee owners impatient with its tiny audience and equally tiny ad revenues. If I recall correctly, some local devotees got the rights to the call letters and played a non-DJ classical jukebox on a different frequency for a little while (this would have been about the time that CDs had become universal so this was fairly easy to do.) You all know what's been on 94.5 since then; it's a little jarring to old-timers like me.KLEF's owners gave the KLEF classical music library to KUHF and this prompted the switch to almost entirely classical music for KUHF. Again, this would have been 1987 or so. I remember that the late Bob Claypool, longtime jazz critic for Houston newspapers, wrote a blistering editorial attacking this move, saying it was tantamount to telling jazz fans to "move back to the back of the bus."I am pretty sure that KUHF gave their jazz library to KTSU and this solidified KTSU's focus on jazz. This is the part, however, that I am least familiar with.This takes us to about 1988 or so. Local philanthropist Mike Stude decided to create a commercial classical station similar to what KLEF had been. They sought out upscale advertisers and made a big effort to play music at times when KUHF was playing their spoken public radio programs. They also had an extremely conservative approach to selecting classical music and this did not always go over well with the city's classical music community. They made a big effort to record the Houston Symphony and to present other local performers. I knew most of their staff personally. It was their desire for a more powerful transmitter which caused them to fund the transmitter move and upgrade for KTRU. At the time it looked like a win-win situation.Even with the best of intentions, though, KRTS couldn't make the money work and they finally pulled the plug in 2004. With the sale of the station to Washington, DC-based Radio One, that was the end for the last locally-owned commercial station in Houston. (according to the Houston Business Journal at the time.)Through it all, KPFT and KTRU soldiered on, sounding not all that different today than they did in 1980.Sorry for any errors, if any of you can correct me please do (brucesw?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porchman Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 A little off-topic:Isn't KUHF suppose to be celebrating a big anniversary this year? I have not heard much about it overall, and it was not mentioned in their press release yesterday. Did tier one aspirations smote 60 years of history? I'm not a PR guru, but it seems something is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) A little off-topic:Isn't KUHF suppose to be celebrating a big anniversary this year? I have not heard much about it overall, and it was not mentioned in their press release yesterday. Did tier one aspirations smote 60 years of history? I'm not a PR guru, but it seems something is missing.Clearly you haven't been paying much attention to KUHF. The station's 60th anniversary HAS BEEN a very big deal all year. There have been several large station events -- including a big anniversary dinner -- celebrating the fact that KUHF was the first public radio station in the United States and it's still on the air 60 years later. The station's website http://app1.kuhf.org/main.php prominently displays a sharp looking 60th anniversary logo, which is also emblazoned everywhere it can be emblazoned, including T-shirts, coffee mugs and a lot of other stuff that's given away at promotional events the station holds around town.The Spring Membership Campaign in April was built around the anniversary. 60 years and counting. We need your help to keep a good thing going. I'm sure the Fall Campaign in October will also mention the 60th anniversary a few times. And look for the station to pull out all the stops on the actual anniversary of the first broadcast on November 6th. In the words of Foghorn Leghorn, pay attention son. Edited August 19, 2010 by FilioScotia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Marmer, you're correct. KUHF gave the jazz library to KTSU; I believe in 1988. Maybe 87.Back to KTRU...Blues in HiFi is having a going away party at Cactus this Sunday 2-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) Ugh...Sunday is the tenth anniversary of the Flying Saucer in Houston... Edited August 19, 2010 by kylejack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Ugh...Sunday is the tenth anniversary of the Flying Saucer in Houston...Easy choice! C'mon, it's not like Flying Saucer is unique to Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porchman Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Clearly you haven't been paying much attention to KUHF. The station's 60th anniversary HAS BEEN a very big deal all year. There have been several large station events -- including a big anniversary dinner -- celebrating the fact that KUHF was the first public radio station in the United States and it's still on the air 60 years later. The station's website http://app1.kuhf.org/main.php prominently displays a sharp looking 60th anniversary logo, which is also emblazoned everywhere it can be emblazoned, including T-shirts, coffee mugs and a lot of other stuff that's given away at promotional events the station holds around town.The Spring Membership Campaign in April was built around the anniversary. 60 years and counting. We need your help to keep a good thing going. I'm sure the Fall Campaign in October will also mention the 60th anniversary a few times. And look for the station to pull out all the stops on the actual anniversary of the first broadcast on November 6th. In the words of Foghorn Leghorn, pay attention son.I have to admit, as a sustaining member, I may put a lot of the campaign promotion on ignore. You're right. There is a logo on the upper left of the website. I just saw it when you mentioned it here. Still, I thought the absence of the anniversary's mention in the press release was odd. "You're doing a lot of choppin', but no chips are flyin'." - Foghorn Leghorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Easy choice! C'mon, it's not like Flying Saucer is unique to Houston.True but Divine Reserve #9 is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) Marmer, you're correct. KUHF gave the jazz library to KTSU; I believe in 1988. Maybe 87.Back to KTRU...Blues in HiFi is having a going away party at Cactus this Sunday 2-5.They may be "going away", but they won't be going far. Word is they'll just move to the KPFT-FM studios, where they've been offered free rein in programming KPFT's HD2 Channel. This comes from an item on a national radio website. And I quote:"KTRU owner Rice University is selling KTRU (91.7) to the University of Houston for $9.5 million, which will put many station volunteers and programmers on the street. Now Pacifica’s KPFT (90.1) offers them a home. GM Duane Bradley and PD Ernesto Aguilar post an open letter to “KTRU DJs and friends”, offering them “full autonomy” to program the soon-to-re-launch HD-2 channel of KPFT. Pacifica says “it is with great sadness that we observe the fate facing KTRU, a Houston cultural institution that blazed trails.” I wish them well. But I have to ask how a radio station with an audience so small the Arbitron Rating Service couldn't measure it could be described as "a Houston cultural institution."BTW: that national radio website is http://www.radio-info.com/news/displaced-ktru-houston-personalities-get-an-hd-2-offer-from-pacificas-kpft Edited August 20, 2010 by FilioScotia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specwriter Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Oh, and FWIW -- Bring back K-Arts!Or bring back KLEF.I can look forward to a 24/7 classical station but I hope it's not "Top 40" classical like so many broadcast stations around the country and on satellite radio. This is a real opportunity for U of H to do some significant and important home-grown shows. How great would it be to hear performances at the Moores School broadcast either live or at a later date. The latter is probably desireable for the University since it wouldn't cannibalize actual attendance so much.Student run programming? Sure if they put it on Facebook, or YouTube, or what ever they can produce any kind of crap they want but doesn't it still have value to produce professional quality programming with the audience that "traditional" media attracts? Perhaps I am being too old-fashioned and romantic.I'll just wait unti KUHC is on the air. It doesn't really have to be all classical either. How about some big band and Broadway tunes once in a while? No, I'm only turning 50 next month not 80 but, growing up, I had to listen to what my parents played on the Hi-Fi. Pennsylvania 6-5000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 An interesting read:http://www.nonalignmentpact.com/2010/08/an-open-letter-to-rice-university-president-david-leebron.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 This is a real opportunity for U of H to do some significant and important home-grown shows. How great would it be to hear performances at the Moores School broadcast either live or at a later date. The latter is probably desireable for the University since it wouldn't cannibalize actual attendance so much.They already do this; my roommate has done performances on KUHF several times. I can't imagine why they would stop now that they've got all this additional air time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmer Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 They already do this; my roommate has done performances on KUHF several times. I can't imagine why they would stop now that they've got all this additional air time.Yes, exactly. And "The Front Row" showcases live performances by local and visiting artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 It will never be quite the same without "Adventures in Good Music" with Dr Karl Haas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I, for one, am going to miss the most the monotonal beeps and blips that ran for upwards of ten minutes and the feline concertos that sounded as if they were recorded among the trashcans in the alley behind someone's house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Rally today at Rice 2pm - center of the quadrangle at Willy's statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Ever since the announcement, KTRU has been playing a lot better music. I guess it was their complacency that had led them to play such odd experimental crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 No, KTRU has always had excellent musical selection. Only certain timeslots were experimental, etc. and much of the experimental stuff was quite interesting (a Rice group called LMNOP for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 No, KTRU has always had excellent musical selection. Only certain timeslots were experimental, etc. and much of the experimental stuff was quite interesting (a Rice group called LMNOP for example).Taste in music is possibly the single most subjective (and contentious) thing in which to have an opinion about. I won't argue the merits of the music, but I will say I frequently tuned in and would be aurally raped by the sound of fingernails on chalkboards or a continueous cacophonous sound looped without deviation or additional noises for five to ten minutes. When they played music, I typically enjoyed it, but when they used the station as a laboratory, I often changed the channel. Now, I'm hearing none of the stuff that turned me off, and I'm hearing much more of what I think they do right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 Taste in music is possibly the single most subjective (and contentious) thing in which to have an opinion about. I won't argue the merits of the music, but I will say I frequently tuned in and would be aurally raped by the sound of fingernails on chalkboards or a continueous cacophonous sound looped without deviation or additional noises for five to ten minutes. When they played music, I typically enjoyed it, but when they used the station as a laboratory, I often changed the channel. Now, I'm hearing none of the stuff that turned me off, and I'm hearing much more of what I think they do right.As a retired radio professional, I've always believed that giving students complete free rein to program a radio station is the worst possible way to run a radio station. It works ONLY if you don't care whether anyone but students listen to it, and that's how it has always been with KTRU. The Rice Administration has allowed students to do anything they want at KTRU for so long that the students have the attitude that they own it. Now they're acting like a bunch of children whose favorite toy has been taken away. I hate to break it to them but they DO NOT own it. It belongs to the school. The Rice Admins are selling something that contributes absolutely nothing to the mission of the school, and will put the money to constructive uses around the campus. For those who say Rice is a wealthy school, and can afford to do anything it wants without selling the radio station, let me remind those people that in the past two years, every stock portfolio in every private endowment in the country has lost value in double digit percentages because of the recession. Every private university in the country is hurting financially, and Rice is no exception. Rice is feeling financial pinches it's never felt before. Rather than tap the shrunken endowment for campus projects, it's selling something that's useless to pay for things that will be very useful, and I applaud this decision. Besides, it's worth remembering that KTRU will not out of existence. It will live on, on the Internet. Every person who now listens to KTRU -- and has Internet access -- will be able to continue listening to their favorite station. It's also worth noting that this will make KTRU available worldwide. They can program to the entire world. Internet radio is already showing signs of being the next big thing, and I think that's more than a fair trade-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) Taste in music is possibly the single most subjective (and contentious) thing in which to have an opinion about. I won't argue the merits of the music, but I will say I frequently tuned in and would be aurally raped by the sound of fingernails on chalkboards or a continueous cacophonous sound looped without deviation or additional noises for five to ten minutes. When they played music, I typically enjoyed it, but when they used the station as a laboratory, I often changed the channel. Now, I'm hearing none of the stuff that turned me off, and I'm hearing much more of what I think they do right.As a retired radio professional, I've never believed giving students free rein to program a radio station is a good idea. It works only if you don't care if anyone listens or not, and that's how it has always been with KTRU. The Rice Administration has allowed students to do anything they want at KTRU for so long that the students have the attitude that they own it. Now they're acting like a bunch of children whose favorite toy has been taken away. I hate to break it to them but they DO NOT own it. It belongs to the school. The Rice Admins are selling something that contributes absolutely nothing to the mission of the school, and will put the money to constructive uses around the campus. For those who say Rice is a wealthy school, and can afford to do anything it wants without selling the radio station, let me remind those people that in the past two years, every stock portfolio in every private endowment in the country has lost value in double digit percentages because of the recession. Every private university in the country is hurting financially, and Rice is no exception. Schools like Stanford, Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, AND Rice are all feeling painful financial pinches they've never felt before. Harvard, the wealthiest university in the United States, saw its endowment drop 30 percent from June 2008 to June 2009. The Rice Endowment lost about 20 percent. The national average loss was a little over 17 percent. So, Rice is faced with either tapping the shrunken endowment for needed campus projects, or selling something that's useless to pay for things that will be very useful. That's a no brainer, and I applaud them for this decision. Besides, it's worth remembering that KTRU will not go out of existence. It will live on, on the Internet. Every person who now listens to KTRU -- and has Internet access -- will be able to continue listening. It's also worth noting that this will make KTRU available worldwide. Internet radio is already showing clear signs of being the next big thing, and I think that's more than a fair trade-off.Hey kids. Wake up and show some appreciation for what you've been given. The whole world is now your playground. Today Houston, tomorrow the world. Edited August 24, 2010 by FilioScotia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 As a retired radio professional, I've never believed giving students free rein to program a radio station is a good idea. It works only if you don't care if anyone listens or not, and that's how it has always been with KTRU. As a retired radio professional, I worked at three radio stations when I was in college that were entirely student-run, except for the engineer and the general manager. Each had varying levels of professionalism based on the university's commitment to the station. Student-run radio isn't necessarily bad. In fact, some student-run radio stations end up bigger and more influential than their host institutions (WFUV), or in some cases outliving the college (WSOU). I agree with you that student-programmed radio works best when the ratings don't matter, but you say that like it's a bad thing. Isn't that the whole purpose of the non-commercial portion of the radio band? That said, I'm in favor of the KUHF-KTRU sale, but I'm a little disappointed to hear that there will be more talk and not an aggressive expansion of news on the main channel. But full-time classical on KTRU is a good thing. Here's an idea -- UH should throw the Rice die-hards a bone and run KTRU's internet stream on KUHC's HD-2 or HD-3 channel. Sure, not everyone has an HD radio, but there are far more HD radios in cars (the primary radio listening venue these days) than there are internet radios in cars. For reference: KUHF KTRU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted August 25, 2010 Author Share Posted August 25, 2010 (edited) I'm a little disappointed to hear that there will be more talk and not an aggressive expansion of news on the main channel. But full-time classical on KTRU is a good thing. Here's an idea -- UH should throw the Rice die-hards a bone and run KTRU's internet stream on KUHC's HD-2 or HD-3 channel. When this change is made, KUHF will be putting NPR's entire schedule of programs on the air. Not including Morning Edition and All Things Considered, all these programs are now heard on the HD-2 Channel. I'm guessing all those programs will be moved to 88.7 FM and HD-1. All the classical music and arts programming will move to KUHC, formerly KTRU, and the HD-2 channel. In between the two news programs, after ME, comes Diane Rehm, a 2 hour news and interview show, then Fresh Air with Terry Gross, known for her interesting interviews. At noon, who knows? There are a couple of NPR programs not carried right now that could fit in there. At 1pm comes Talk of the Nation, a 2 hour news, interview and call-in program. At 3pm, they will either keep the BBC News Hour, or go to All Things Considered and stay with it, probably till 7pm. At 7pm, there's The World, from the BBC and PRI, news from Europe from Deutsche Welle Newslink Plus, and NPR's Tell Me More till midnight. Then it will carry BBC World News from midnight to 4am or 5am. That sounds like a solid 24 hour news/talk clock to me. KUHF's website says it will also be expanding its coverage of local issues, with live broadcasts of town-hall meetings and other news worthy events. You also wish for an aggressive expansion of loala news on the main channel. I predict you'll get your wish. I've heard that local news will be expanded, possibly with a half-hour or even one-hour evening local and state news roundup. I predict we will be hearing a lot more news from around the state, with reports from the Texas Public Radio Network, and other public radio stations around the state, including KUT in Austin and KERA in Dallas. I can tell you there is more than enough local and state news available from all those sources on any given day to fill a full hour, and I'm sure it will come to pass. And, don't hold your breath waiting for KUHF to put KTRU on an HD channel. Never happen. But, maybe you haven't heard this, but Pacifica KPFT FM is already offering KTRU people free rein to program its HD-2 Channel. Edited August 25, 2010 by FilioScotia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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