Walmart To Invade The Heights

[Houston19514]

They are removing a total of 19 trees from Yale. They are adding a total of 13 trees to Yale. Net loss: 6 trees. Net loss in tree caliper inches on Yale: 176.5.

The 12 extra caliper inches will not be on Yale, but on the Heights esplanade.

Not saying you're wrong, but how do you know how many trees they will plant along Yale?

[Leonard]

H19514 - from the landscaping plans approved by the city. It has the caliper inches on them too.

[Houston19514]

H19514 - from the landscaping plans approved by the city. It has the caliper inches on them too.

Thanks. Link?

Edited June 12, 2012 by Houston19514

[RedScare]

Leonard, do you plan on doing anything with this profound evidence of conspiracy that you have found? Do you plan to file a lawsuit to force the number of tree caliper inches to a constitutionally mandated level? Or do you intend to continue posting your caliper inches on this forum, which clearly has no authority to change anything, and whom the majority of posters either do not care, or are willing to see the finished product before complaining?

If we all acknowledge that you were right all along (I don't remember seeing you until the 380 was a done deal), will you then go complain about something else? I really don't get your point here. You haven't asked us to come protest with you. Parker's re-election is already over. The 380 was signed long ago. What is your point? You already read SilverJK's post. Most of us believe that even a treeless Yale is an improvement over what was there previously.

[Leonard]

H19514 I don't have a link.

RS -This forum is about the Heights Walmart - I'm just trying to share some information with those that are interested. I'm on topic.

I understand that you believe that everyone thinks as you and SilverJK do, that the 380 is worth Yale with less trees (both in number and caliper), even though one of the major points selling the 380 was sidewalks and trees.

[mcook2002]

If we all acknowledge that you were right all along (I don't remember seeing you until the 380 was a done deal), will you then go complain about something else? I really don't get your point here. You haven't asked us to come protest with you. Parker's re-election is already over. The 380 was signed long ago. What is your point? You already read SilverJK's post. Most of us believe that even a treeless Yale is an improvement over what was there previously.

No matter what the point, at least Leonard keeps to topic and does not fall to one side or the other of the never ending pissing match....the guy also posts what appear to be facts (crazy around here, right)

[RedScare]

Well, if moping around here makes you feel better, go for it. It just seems to me that you should take your complaints where they might do some good, like to the City. Then you could come back here and brag about your success...and we would applaud your efforts. Instead, our only option is to poke fun at your crying over spilled milk. At least that's the way I see it. Posting here without doing anything about it is simply wasted effort. Even RUDH's misguided effort was an effort of some sort. But, once it was clear that Walmart was coming anyway, they resorted to moping and whining, instead of making lemonade.

Carry on. I enjoy the banter.

[s3mh]

Well, if moping around here makes you feel better, go for it. It just seems to me that you should take your complaints where they might do some good, like to the City. Then you could come back here and brag about your success...and we would applaud your efforts. Instead, our only option is to poke fun at your crying over spilled milk. At least that's the way I see it. Posting here without doing anything about it is simply wasted effort. Even RUDH's misguided effort was an effort of some sort. But, once it was clear that Walmart was coming anyway, they resorted to moping and whining, instead of making lemonade.

Carry on. I enjoy the banter.

Aren't you doing the exact same thing with the historic ordinance? Goose/gander?

[RedScare]

I was actively involved in the efforts to reject the historic ordinance for an entire year. In fact, that involvement is how I know that there was overwhelming opposition to the district. My current activities involve continuing neighborhood awareness, so that once Mayor Parker is out of office, these districts may be dissolved. Reminding neighbors of the hit to property values and the nuisance of getting permission to buy a new door accomplishes that goal.

Walmart, however, is under construction. It IS being built. That fight is forever lost. No amount of complaining will make the store go away. Unlike ordinances, which are only a council vote from disappearing, a Walmart stores remains until Walmart decides to move.

But, again, if Leonard, or you, wish to continue, I am happy to point out your misstatements.

[Jesse]

I would argue the fight isn't over until Walmart opens their doors

I was actively involved in the efforts to reject the historic ordinance for an entire year. In fact, that involvement is how I know that there was overwhelming opposition to the district. My current activities involve continuing neighborhood awareness, so that once Mayor Parker is out of office, these districts may be dissolved. Reminding neighbors of the hit to property values and the nuisance of getting permission to buy a new door accomplishes that goal.

Walmart, however, is under construction. It IS being built. That fight is forever lost. No amount of complaining will make the store go away. Unlike ordinances, which are only a council vote from disappearing, a Walmart stores remains until Walmart decides to move.

But, again, if Leonard, or you, wish to continue, I am happy to point out your misstatements.

[RedScare]

I would argue the fight isn't over until Walmart opens their doors

Eh, if your fight consists of crying about tree size on an internet forum, my bet would be on the "fight is over" crowd.

[Jesse]

Huh? I haven't talked about trees. Please explain.

Eh, if your fight consists of crying about tree size on an internet forum, my bet would be on the "fight is over" crowd.

[TheNiche]

Huh? I haven't talked about trees. Please explain.

Red made a conditional statement, which is preceded by the word if.

If your fight is crying about tree size, then he's probably right but that statement may not apply to you. If you plan to make the Wal-Mart explode (a la King of the Hill, Season 2, Episode 23), then perhaps the fight is not over -- but all bets regarding tree size would be off, that's for sure.

Of course, we don't know what your fight is. You have made no credible or recent statements regarding your fight or an intent to fight. It's entirely possible that Red made a statement that wasn't directed at you.

Edited June 22, 2012 by TheNiche

[JJxvi]

How rudh.

[Jesse]

Wow, we're down to nitpicking grammar, huh? I figured his use of the word "your", followed by his quoting MY statement, indicated he was talking to me. But let's let him answer. Not sure why you jumped in, Niche. I wasn't talking to you. Still waiting on Red's response.

And yes, I would LOVE to hear you back up YOUR statement with facts. When have I made non-credible statements about "my fight"? Please provide evidence. You're so good at brushing off others when they don't back up statements with facts. So let's see them. When have I not been credible? (that's directed at you, Niche).

And, for the record, I said "I would argue THE fight isn't over". Not my fight. I never mentioned my fight. So why are you? I was taking issue with Red's logic (again, why am I arguing this with you? Regardless...). He said he fought the historic ordinance for a year. Which I respect. He then said "his current activities", suggesting he was still actively involved in raising awareness, and working towards his goal, even though the ordinance passed. Some would argue the fight was over once it passed. But he is continuing his work. He's still fighting. Good for him.

My point, which some clearly misunderstood, was that although the initial fight to prevent Walmart from entering the neighborhood is over (presumably they've signed a lease by now), there could still be ways to delay/prevent/obstruct the opening. I don't know of any. That doesn't mean there aren't any. Some people are actively looking into it. My point is that any efforts right now, that could prevent/delay the opening would still be considered a 'fight'. Once the doors open, the fight would be over. But until then, I don't see how the battle is lost. Much like how Red is continuing to fight, even though the ordinance passed.

capisce?

Red made a conditional statement, which is preceded by the word if.

If your fight is crying about tree size, then he's probably right but that statement may not apply to you. If you plan to make the Wal-Mart explode (a la King of the Hill, Season 2, Episode 23), then perhaps the fight is not over -- but all bets regarding tree size would be off, that's for sure.

Of course, we don't know what your fight is. You have made no credible or recent statements regarding your fight or an intent to fight. It's entirely possible that Red made a statement that wasn't directed at you.

[RedScare]

Jesse, why do walk into a debate and immediately think the debate is all about you? Look a couple of posts above mine to find the answer about tree caliper inches.

[Jesse]

I figured his use of the word "your", followed by his quoting MY statement, indicated he was talking to me.

Jesse, why do walk into a debate and immediately think the debate is all about you? Look a couple of posts above mine to find the answer about tree caliper inches.

[samagon]

Yore, you're, your?

I heard walmart makes people use the wrong homonym, but have never seen it in action, this is scary now that I have.

Edited June 22, 2012 by samagon

[august948]

So when is this thing scheduled to open? I'll make an extra effort to shop there when I'm in the area.

[s3mh]

Yore, you're, your?

I heard walmart makes people use the wrong homonym, but have never seen it in action, this is scary now that I have.

Looks like punctuation is also a problem for Walmart shoppers.

[TheNiche]

Looks like punctuation is also a problem for Walmart shoppers.

It would appear that pronouns are a problem for Wal-Mart haters.

[LTAWACS]

Looks like punctuation is also a problem for Walmart shoppers.

Well... they do cater to a certain segment of the population.

[s3mh]

It would appear that pronouns are a problem for Wal-Mart haters.

It would also appear that Walmart hater haters skipped English class the day they had the lesson on the understood subject.

[kylejack]

I'm chiming in as a Walmart hater with impeccable grammar.

[LTAWACS]

I'm chiming in as a Walmart hater with impeccable grammar.

Count me in.

[august948]

Well... they do cater to a certain segment of the population.

Does that mean the "certain segment" is in abundant supply in the Heights area?

[LTAWACS]

Does that mean the "certain segment" is in abundant supply in the Heights area?

Im not sure... but I think there is enough of this certain segment for them to build one there.

[SilverJK]

My brain works to fast to slow down and worry about grammar. I'm sure I could find unnecessary' places to use apos'trophes to qualify my Walmart shopping abilities. If being a grammar nazi is your "thing" that you're about thats fine, but they're (hater haters with bad grammar) still entitled to their opinions on if the walmart should go there.

[LTAWACS]

wye kaint wee awl just git 'long?

[Marksmu]

some people just want to say something and dont care about grammar or spelling some people hate capitalizing words and some people hate punctuation while still others despise run on sentences with lots of mspelled wrds everywhre but me personally I dont care about any of those things as long as a walmart gets built and I can sit under the shade of beautiful brand new 2-3 caliper inch tree and bask in the glorious odors of taco cabana while I enjoy me some cheap queso

[JJxvi]

amen

[samagon]

Looks like punctuation is also a problem for Walmart shoppers.

Ending sentences with prepositions is also something you will have to put up with.

Wait, ending sentences with prepositions is something up with which you will have to put.

Edited June 25, 2012 by samagon

[TGM]

Attention Walmart shoppers:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/3615312

[LTAWACS]

Good luck with that... if they haven't learned it before they dropped out of school... then they will never learn it.

some people just want to say something and dont care about grammar or spelling some people hate capitalizing words and some people hate punctuation while still others despise run on sentences with lots of mspelled wrds everywhre but me personally I dont care about any of those things as long as a walmart gets built and I can sit under the shade of beautiful brand new 2-3 caliper inch tree and bask in the glorious odors of taco cabana while I enjoy me some cheap queso

So you live in Sugar Land?

[Leonard]

here's the tree mitigation plan. it's on page 5 or 6. http://rudh.org/archives/341

The one tree on Yale closest to the bridge that was supposed to be saved was also bulldozed.

[JJxvi]

Is it just me or do Leonard and s3mh often show up at the same time?

[RedScare]

here's the tree mitigation plan. it's on page 5 or 6. http://rudh.org/archives/341

The one tree on Yale closest to the bridge that was supposed to be saved was also bulldozed.

Oh, the tree that was going to get knocked down when you finally convince the City to replace the Bridge of Death? Sorry to hear that.

If it's any consolation, there is someone available to help with mitigation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQfGd3G6dg

Granted, he is a shrubber, not an arborist, but beggars can't be choosers, you know.

[RedScare]

Is it just me or do Leonard and s3mh often show up at the same time?

Yes, and I've also noticed that you never see both of them in the same photograph.

[RedScare]

...

Edited June 28, 2012 by RedScare

[LTAWACS]

Also, you'll never see neither one of them eat. Ever.

[SilverJK]

I had to drive up to crosstimbers walmart yesterday to track down a battery operated fan (you wouldn't believe how hard these are to find). My only time available to drive that way was ~6PM. Yale St Walmart would have been so convenient. (for my annual walmart trip)

Edited June 28, 2012 by SilverJK

[LTAWACS]

Could you not order this fan online?

[barracuda]

^ Might be difficult; Amazon only shows 10,224 results for 'battery fan'.

[samagon]

That and it's such a pain to pay shipping costs and then have to keep track of the costs and pay sales tax on it. Id rather just go to walmart and buy the fan.

[SilverJK]

not if I wanted to have it Friday night... last minute decision to go camping... but I'm glad that because I shopped at Walmart you just assume I'm too dumb to order something online instead of the more logical thought that I needed it quickly.

[samagon]

not if I wanted to have it Friday night... last minute decision to go camping... but I'm glad that because I shopped at Walmart you just assume I'm too dumb to order something online instead of the more logical thought that I needed it quickly.

Shipping costs for 30 minute delivery could be astronomical, unless you're ordering a pizza or Chinese. You probably made the wise decision.

[LTAWACS]

^ Might be difficult; Amazon only shows 10,224 results for 'battery fan'.

It does not have to be difficult. I'm sure it has a model number somewhere.

[Leonard]

Just FYI - The tree plan for the Walmart has been changed quite a bit. There will be no street trees except for four 1.5-inch trees at Yale and the feeder - probably crepe myrtles. No trees at all on Yale or Koehler. Fewer trees on the Heights esplanade. They are mitigating all the caliper inches removed except for 6 inches (the four crepes) within the parking lots (and not on the edge to shade the sidewalks).

And we're paying for this via the 380. We're paying to remove $200K to $300K worth of live oaks and replace them with Walmart parking lot trees.

[RedScare]

Actually, it sounds like we are saving money by not planting the trees. Doing nothing generally doesn't cost anything. At least, that's been my experience.

[LTAWACS]

Just FYI - The tree plan for the Walmart has been changed quite a bit. There will be no street trees except for four 1.5-inch trees at Yale and the feeder - probably crepe myrtles. No trees at all on Yale or Koehler. Fewer trees on the Heights esplanade. They are mitigating all the caliper inches removed except for 6 inches (the four crepes) within the parking lots (and not on the edge to shade the sidewalks).

And we're paying for this via the 380. We're paying to remove $200K to $300K worth of live oaks and replace them with Walmart parking lot trees.

This is why I don't go to walmart.