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1 minute ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Yeah probably so because the market is determining this level of density. People want to live in the city. Zoning or no zoning there is proof of that in THIS CITY. My God wth lol

True, the suburban sprawl from downtown to Tomball clearly shows a strong desire to live in/near the city of Houston. 

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1 minute ago, Vy65 said:

Didn't answer my question: are the bus + trees the only thing keeping the strip plazas and empty lots from being (re)developed? 

 

You and I have very different takes on what constitutes a "strong incentive" 

Then you tell me what you think a strong incentive is??? For Houston, not anywhere else. The only thing you've done is argued every point and you haven't provided anything. Other than the fact you worked on Post Oak for 2 years. 

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28 minutes ago, Vy65 said:

Appreciate the response. And, I agree that there has been development on the east side of 610, and it's a welcome sign. 

 

That said, I don't see how you can extrapolate that development to POB. For starters, they're divided by 610. I don't see people walking from the ROD under the highway, through some commercial office buildings, just to take a bus to go to a mall. If the BRT system included a stop at the ROD, I'd be able to muster some enthusiasm for it.

 

The Galleria has been a major draw for decades. Yet those shopping plazas have remained. You still have large, empty parcels along POB, San Felipe, and on the interior. The market hasn't moved to prod development in those places - and suggesting that trees + sidewalk is the lacking catalyst doesn't pass the straight-face test. Will the area change over the course of decades? Maybe. But to suggest that anything is imminent (i.e., within the next couple years) is beyond optimistic in my book. 

The example of the development East of 610, is proof about how real estate in the area is becoming more dense, not as a reason for the BRT line.  Certainly, POB and ROD and surrounding areas, are poorly linked and isolated from one another.  It's a Comp. 

 

BLVD place is attached to many of the vacant lots that you are referencing. I would suggest that this is the best example of how the area is already densifying.  The Very Large building, where Whole Foods is, one large apartment tower developed by Hanover, a second being built, another sister building similar to the Whole Foods Building will be on its way soon.   Pretty remarkable density and redevelopment.  What was here before?  Strip mall. 

 

59 minutes ago, Vy65 said:

Why isn’t Apache building its new HQ?

 Seriously?  I am not sure I know what you mean by the example.   Have you been paying attention to what has happened to their business in the last few years?  Building a new building just doesn't make sense.  But, they have held on to the property, i believe.  They see its advantages.   

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This project is another step in support of the long term vision of creating a dense  pedestrian-friendly environment.

 

Contrary to the dishonest suggestion above, no one has said it will cause imminent (within 2-3 years) redevelopment all along the boulevard. Again, it's part of a vision for the long term.

 

Contrary to the repeated dishonest attempts to diminish the project by referring to it as "buses and trees", the project consists of more than that:  wider sidewalks, more shade, better lighting, better landscaping and art.  And as everyone here surely knows, the buses are not just  standard buses.

 

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17 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

This project is another step in support of the long term vision of creating a dense  pedestrian-friendly environment.

 

Contrary to the dishonest suggestion above, no one has said it will cause imminent (within 2-3 years) redevelopment all along the boulevard. Again, it's part of a vision for the long term.

 

Contrary to the repeated dishonest attempts to diminish the project by referring to it as "buses and trees", the project consists of more than that:  wider sidewalks, more shade, better lighting, better landscaping and art.  And as everyone here surely knows, the buses are not just  standard buses.

 

Eaxctly! Why is this person diminishing this project? It really screams an old Houston mentality. 

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32 minutes ago, Naviguessor said:

BLVD place is attached to many of the vacant lots that you are referencing. I would suggest that this is the best example of how the area is already densifying.  The Very Large building, where Whole Foods is, one large apartment tower developed by Hanover, a second being built, another sister building similar to the Whole Foods Building will be on its way soon.   Pretty remarkable density and redevelopment.  What was here before?  Strip mall. 

 

 Seriously?  I am not sure I know what you mean by the example.   Have you been paying attention to what has happened to their business in the last few years?  Building a new building just doesn't make sense.  But, they have held on to the property, i believe.  They see its advantages.   

I don't think you can say that the presence of multiple empty lots - that have been empty for years - is a sign of a densification. I only know of the one tower being built by Hanover (to the extent that you're suggesting that there are two being built). As for other's "on the way," I'll believe it when I see it because a lot of what I see out there is empty land. 

 

As for Apache, their Alpine play is poised to be highly lucrative. That, along with the rise/recovery of oil makes the renewal of their POC lease (as opposed to starting their building) kinda prove my point. 

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Eaxctly! Why is this person diminishing this project? It really screams an old Houston mentality. 

Because adding trees and a bus doesn't do much of anything. I would love to see this city become more urban and dense, but expanding a sidewalk isn't going to do it. A lot more drastic alternatives - which likely aren't feasible - are needed. So I'm sorry to burst your bubble on a pretty pathetic project.

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2 minutes ago, Vy65 said:

Because adding trees and a bus doesn't do much of anything. I would love to see this city become more urban and dense, but expanding a sidewalk isn't going to do it. A lot more drastic alternatives - which likely aren't feasible - are needed. So I'm sorry to burst your bubble on a pretty pathetic project.

So you want Houston to become more urban and dense but you want to diminish the small efforts it takes to become that. Real smarty guy... NEXT!

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8 minutes ago, Vy65 said:

I don't think you can say that the presence of multiple empty lots - that have been empty for years - is a sign of a densification. I only know of the one tower being built by Hanover (to the extent that you're suggesting that there are two being built). As for other's "on the way," I'll believe it when I see it because a lot of what I see out there is empty land. 

 

As for Apache, their Alpine play is poised to be highly lucrative. That, along with the rise/recovery of oil makes the renewal of their POC lease (as opposed to starting their building) kinda prove my point. 

 

Read more. Type less.  Hanover is currently building their second tower, as Naviguesor said.  The first one is right next door.  Are you in Chicago by any chance?

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33 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

This project is another step in support of the long term vision of creating a dense  pedestrian-friendly environment.

 

Contrary to the dishonest suggestion above, no one has said it will cause imminent (within 2-3 years) redevelopment all along the boulevard. Again, it's part of a vision for the long term.

 

Contrary to the repeated dishonest attempts to diminish the project by referring to it as "buses and trees", the project consists of more than that:  wider sidewalks, more shade, better lighting, better landscaping and art.  And as everyone here surely knows, the buses are not just  standard buses.

 

Maybe you can elaborate what was dishonest about my suggestion when the conversation was about how much the area has changed in "just a few years?"

 

You can take the long look all you like. In 3 decades, I'm sure the area will have developed. That's besides the point. Claiming some *really fancy* buses will trigger development in the area is laughable. It's great everyone is so excited about an otherwise marginal project, but don't act like market movement is hinging on some trees being planted. 

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Just now, j_cuevas713 said:

So you want Houston to become more urban and dense but you want to diminish the small efforts it takes to become that. Real smarty guy... NEXT!

I want efforts bigger/more ambitious that a bus + some trees. I guess I'm not as easy to please as others ...

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(to the extent that you're suggesting that there are two being built)

 

Now who's being dishonest?

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3 minutes ago, Vy65 said:

(to the extent that you're suggesting that there are two being built)

 

Now who's being dishonest?

 

As I said earlier, read more.  Type less.  Naviguessor did not say two were being built.  

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You would be wise to take your own advice. I didn't know commenting on some buses would ruffle these many feathers.

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Vy...come on.  quoting myself here:

 

QTE:

BLVD place is attached to many of the vacant lots that you are referencing. I would suggest that this is the best example of how the area is already densifying.  The Very Large building, where Whole Foods is, one large apartment tower developed by Hanover, a second being built, another sister building similar to the Whole Foods Building will be on its way soon.   Pretty remarkable density and redevelopment.  What was here before?  Strip mall. 

UNQTE:

 

I'm done. 

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1 hour ago, Vy65 said:

I don't think you can say that the presence of multiple empty lots - that have been empty for years - is a sign of a densification. I only know of the one tower being built by Hanover (to the extent that you're suggesting that there are two being built). As for other's "on the way," I'll believe it when I see it because a lot of what I see out there is empty land. 

 

As for Apache, their Alpine play is poised to be highly lucrative. That, along with the rise/recovery of oil makes the renewal of their POC lease (as opposed to starting their building) kinda prove my point. 

I respect your opinion and energy against this project, but Apache renewing their lease and deciding to not commit to a 300m+ project, does not prove your point.  The wider sidewalks and trees will encourage developers to incorporate GFR or more of a 'Street Presence' in their projects that front Post Oak Boulevard.  I've certainly utilized it a lot more to walk to BLVD Place or Uptown Park for lunch, now that these sections of sidewalks are opening up.  As a current office employee and former resident of the area, it definitely has my approval.

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V as in Vik, right? The troll formally known as Slick Vik strikes again. 

 


 

 

 

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On 3/8/2018 at 10:51 AM, Vy65 said:

I worked at 2POC for 2+ years, so I've been looking at Post Oak Boulevard. What do you think is going to draw pedestrians out? The CPK or the quasi-abandoned AT&T store?

 

Did you ever go out for lunch, or did you always bring it with you when you worked at 2POC?

 

If I worked there I'd probably always bring my lunch, driving around that area at lunch is as painful as pulling teeth. 

 

But, maybe if you could walk to a station, hop on a reliably timed BRT bus and get to the food court in the galleria in a timely fashion, your lunch universe expands a bit.

 

But hey, you're probably right. worthless.

 

Imagine all those people living up and down this boulevard in those tall condos I'm sure you saw while you were looking at Post Oak. You honestly can't see them hopping on a BRT to get to whole foods to grab dinner and a bottle of wine for the night?

 

no, I'm sure of it, you're right. it's worthless, all that's really going to happen is that people are going to drive in from the suburbs trying to get to gallery furniture and be frustrated by the trees.

 

without a hint of sarcasm, I can honestly say that the biggest problem with this BRT is eventually going to be parking. in that people are going to drive in from the burbs, park their car at uptown park where they will grab lunch and a starbucks, then hop on the BRT to go wandering in the galleria, only to return to an empty space because their car was towed.

 

Jim McIngvale fought this and is probably still pissed about it. He knows his rent is going to go up in a few years specifically because of this update to the street and he won't be able to afford to have his showroom of uninspired, expensive, overstuffed leather at the corner of PO and Westheimer. Honestly, every time I am in the area and drive by that oversized strip center at the corner of PO and Westheimer, I wonder how long that place (and others like it in the area) can hold on before it is ripped out for a higher purpose.

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38 minutes ago, samagon said:

 

Did you ever go out for lunch, or did you always bring it with you when you worked at 2POC?

 

If I worked there I'd probably always bring my lunch, driving around that area at lunch is as painful as pulling teeth. 

 

But, maybe if you could walk to a station, hop on a reliably timed BRT bus and get to the food court in the galleria in a timely fashion, your lunch universe expands a bit.

 

But hey, you're probably right. worthless.

 

Imagine all those people living up and down this boulevard in those tall condos I'm sure you saw while you were looking at Post Oak. You honestly can't see them hopping on a BRT to get to whole foods to grab dinner and a bottle of wine for the night?

 

no, I'm sure of it, you're right. it's worthless, all that's really going to happen is that people are going to drive in from the suburbs trying to get to gallery furniture and be frustrated by the trees.

 

without a hint of sarcasm, I can honestly say that the biggest problem with this BRT is eventually going to be parking. in that people are going to drive in from the burbs, park their car at uptown park where they will grab lunch and a starbucks, then hop on the BRT to go wandering in the galleria, only to return to an empty space because their car was towed.

 

Jim McIngvale fought this and is probably still pissed about it. He knows his rent is going to go up in a few years specifically because of this update to the street and he won't be able to afford to have his showroom of uninspired, expensive, overstuffed leather at the corner of PO and Westheimer. Honestly, every time I am in the area and drive by that oversized strip center at the corner of PO and Westheimer, I wonder how long that place (and others like it in the area) can hold on before it is ripped out for a higher purpose.

Preach! I get that McIngvale is a business man but damn how can he be so naive to not see the greater good this will be for Houston? Maybe he should quit giving away so much furniture. lol (sarcasm)

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1 hour ago, samagon said:

 

Did you ever go out for lunch, or did you always bring it with you when you worked at 2POC?

 

If I worked there I'd probably always bring my lunch, driving around that area at lunch is as painful as pulling teeth. 

 

But, maybe if you could walk to a station, hop on a reliably timed BRT bus and get to the food court in the galleria in a timely fashion, your lunch universe expands a bit.

 

But hey, you're probably right. worthless.

 

Imagine all those people living up and down this boulevard in those tall condos I'm sure you saw while you were looking at Post Oak. You honestly can't see them hopping on a BRT to get to whole foods to grab dinner and a bottle of wine for the night?

 

no, I'm sure of it, you're right. it's worthless, all that's really going to happen is that people are going to drive in from the suburbs trying to get to gallery furniture and be frustrated by the trees.

 

without a hint of sarcasm, I can honestly say that the biggest problem with this BRT is eventually going to be parking. in that people are going to drive in from the burbs, park their car at uptown park where they will grab lunch and a starbucks, then hop on the BRT to go wandering in the galleria, only to return to an empty space because their car was towed.

 

Jim McIngvale fought this and is probably still pissed about it. He knows his rent is going to go up in a few years specifically because of this update to the street and he won't be able to afford to have his showroom of uninspired, expensive, overstuffed leather at the corner of PO and Westheimer. Honestly, every time I am in the area and drive by that oversized strip center at the corner of PO and Westheimer, I wonder how long that place (and others like it in the area) can hold on before it is ripped out for a higher purpose.

 

I walked to and got something from WF literally 90% of the time I worked there. Shockingly, the quarter mile or so didn't kill me and I didn't need the assistance of a bus. But apparently all those people living in all those high rises are unable to walk a half mile or so, so giving them a glorified trolley will be totally necessary. 

 

Wouldn't Uptown TIRZ using the millions of dollars it spent on some trees better be used as subsidies to developers who'd demolish/develop the strip malls and empty fields? 

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50 minutes ago, Vy65 said:

 

I walked to and got something from WF literally 90% of the time I worked there. Shockingly, the quarter mile or so didn't kill me and I didn't need the assistance of a bus. But apparently all those people living in all those high rises are unable to walk a half mile or so, so giving them a glorified trolley will be totally necessary. 

 

Wouldn't Uptown TIRZ using the millions of dollars it spent on some trees better be used as subsidies to developers who'd demolish/develop the strip malls and empty fields? 

How in the world can you assume so much about the people living in those high-rises yet question most of us in this forum, who have been in this for well over a decade, about how we feel development will pick up after this is finished? You do realize that metro Houston is roughly 6 million yet nobody will ride this? That doesn't make any sense. Again this is exactly how people who questioned the Redline were proven wrong. 

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Walking with groceries 1/2 mile is not fun, especially in the summer.  A short walk to a BRT and riding that to WF is way better, and if it's frequent enough might get a lot of those condo dwellers to walk instead of drive.

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People don't or won't walk a few blocks to WF, but will once a bus is put in? Several of these apartments/condos are literally across the street (some aren't even on POB). How is  a bus is going to going to incentivize people to walk to WF when they may already be driving in lieu of walking a few blocks? Or using an app like instacart? That makes zero sense and is backed up by zero evidence.

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On 3/8/2018 at 6:11 PM, Reporter said:

V as in Vik, right? The troll formally known as Slick Vik strikes again. 

 


 

 

 

 

Nope. I support this project 

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On 3/8/2018 at 3:26 PM, Vy65 said:

I don't think you can say that the presence of multiple empty lots - that have been empty for years - is a sign of a densification. I only know of the one tower being built by Hanover (to the extent that you're suggesting that there are two being built). As for other's "on the way," I'll believe it when I see it because a lot of what I see out there is empty land. 

 

As for Apache, their Alpine play is poised to be highly lucrative. That, along with the rise/recovery of oil makes the renewal of their POC lease (as opposed to starting their building) kinda prove my point. 

Empty lots don't really have to densification, it has to do with land value (and those two are not interchangeable). A row of strip centers, churches, restaurants, and hotels is not very dense, but downtown and Uptown are, and empty lots (or parking lots) usually indicate two things:

1) The land value is so low that it doesn't really make sense to build there (any place out in the country, neighborhoods in serious decline, City of Detroit, etc.)

2) The land value is so high that it doesn't really make sense to build anything other than a high-profit building (basically any urban area including San Francisco's former Central Expressway up until 2008-ish)

If you look at Uptown, even back to 2004, you'll see that there are more empty lots than today but the lots that are developed (with a few exceptions) are all skyscrapers, dense malls, or hotels. Downtown has empty lots, and those lots won't develop until they find developers for big multi-story building. Putting in a Panda Express with its own parking lot and drive-through would definitely be attractive but the land value is too high to see a low-rise like that built anymore. At one time the land value in downtown was low enough that a McDonald's with a parking lot was there at Main and Capitol, but that obviously is not the case anymore.

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I don't think I disagree with any of that in the abstract. If someone were to ask me whether I thought  those empty lots would eventually be developed or those shopping plazas mowed down into something else over the next 3 decades, I'd tend to agree. But that's not saying much of anything. Of course there will be development in the area and that development is trending towards large shopping centers and/or tall buildings. 

 

I don't think that has much of anything to do with the utility or benefit added by the bus. I've asked, and no one has been able to quantify how much the bus will speed the process of actual development up. And that's likely because it won't. No one has said that the bus operates as some kind of tipping point that would spur development or redevelopment where none existed before. If someone were to articulate how the bus would accelerate development in the area in a real or tangible way (i.e., over the course of 5 years), then I'd be on board. But they can't because it won't.

 

The only justification for the bus has been 1) it's nice to have and 2) it let's the B&T crowd park farther away from the Galleria. Again, I can think of better uses of the tens - if not hundreds - of millions of dollars the TIRZ has spent on the bus. 

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I support this bus rapid transit project but man, have they made traffic absolutely unbearable with this Post Oak ramp closure. I don't even drive on 610 and it's adding considerable wait times even on I-10 all the way to the Heights now. It's like everyone is trying to take Woodway to get into the Galleria now... thought they wanted people to go to San Felipe instead.

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On 4/16/2018 at 10:56 AM, Triton said:

I support this bus rapid transit project but man, have they made traffic absolutely unbearable with this Post Oak ramp closure. I don't even drive on 610 and it's adding considerable wait times even on I-10 all the way to the Heights now. It's like everyone is trying to take Woodway to get into the Galleria now... thought they wanted people to go to San Felipe instead.

 

Feels like it's getting even worse. The traffic has been backed up all the way to the Woodlands Heights now on I-10 since everyone and their grandma is trying to exit on Woodway. Seriously wish they could build a temporary ramp.

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3 hours ago, Triton said:

 everyone and their grandma is trying to exit on Woodway.

Those damned grandmas!

 

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The specialty trees were transplanted this week right? Went to WF Post Oak today and saw a bunch of newly planted trees with guards around them.

 

Hope I'm not wrong! :lol:

 

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You either timed that photo really well while barreling by at 70 mph or you stopped in the death-hole.  Either way... well played!

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Yeah, this is a huge impact... even just the 200 feet of trees makes it feel like the good old days (remember the trees and planters from back in 2016?).  The sidewalk is also really coming together from San Felipe up to 610.  I was skeptical, but this is great.

 

[an aside, and then content]

What's up with posting content on this site?  It's been messed up for (literally) a year for me.  I can't drag files... I can't "insert other media" and I can't use the "link" button anymore either.  Anyone know what the deal is?  I've cleared cookies, I've tried different photo hosting, I've tried IE and chrome, I've tried my work comp.  It's like the site is anti-content.  How are you guys posting photos in content?

 

This is literally the best I can do:  >> Tree Pic here (by me) >> http://s1241.photobucket.com/user/SkylineView/media/image2_zpsym0hihgp.jpeg.html

 

If anyone has the ability to drag it out of purgatory and into the thread... please do!

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SkylineView, "drag" it out of purgatory is literally correct!  All you have to do is drag it from that linked page and into the post editor and it will work.  Like this:

 

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/SkylineView/image2_zpsym0hihgp.jpeg

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I came across an article indicating that the Bellaire transit station is underway.  This will anchor the southern end of the Blvd project.  

 

Article: https://www.virtualbx.com/construction-preview/houston-bellaire-uptown-transit-center-due-in-2020/

 

Indicates work starting effectively now (Oct 2018) and ending in 2020.  I checked the planning commission minutes, and it was reviewed and variance granted.

 

I drove past after work... all I could see was the first pillar to hold the elevated drive to get to the HOT lane (immediately south of Westpark Dr) and it appeared to be outside the property line.  

 

Anyone have any other details?

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Also... is there a way to move this out of the Trains section and into the general Transportation section?  The Boulevard Project has nothing to do with trains.

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9 hours ago, SkylineView said:

Also... is there a way to move this out of the Trains section and into the general Transportation section?  The Boulevard Project has nothing to do with trains.

 

I believe this has to deal with the new Metro hybrid vehicle. Isn't it a cross breed between a bus and rail car?

 

If rails are considered "trains" that is

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On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 2:38 PM, Vy65 said:

This is getting to be besides the point, but would Austin  have the highly dense downtown it enjoys without zoning?

 

Zoning forces all high-rise development in Austin to be downtown or immediately south across the river. If not for zoning, you would certainly have high rises offering amazing views in places like Mt. Bonnell, Tarrytown, Westlake, South Congress, etc., and a portion of the market would be taken away from downtown. Nowadays most younger high-rise renters are drawn to downtown Austin for what it has become, but that draw would not have been so strong 10 years ago, and it would have taken longer to develop. The GFR requirements have also done a lot to create an interesting and agreeable neighborhood downtown, without things like hulking parking garages and curb cuts with cars speeding in and out hurting pedestrian life in places like 6th Street or Congress Ave.

 

On the other hand, zoning slows the process for buildings like 600 Guadalupe to come out of the ground due to all the approvals and negotiations needed, and the Capitol View Corridors have driven up land prices for high-rise sites by limiting supply. Houston held the record for most expensive land in the state with the sale of the Chronicle site a view years ago, but Austin has blown past that since.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, H-Town Man said:

 

Zoning forces all high-rise development in Austin to be downtown or immediately south across the river. If not for zoning, you would certainly have high rises offering amazing views in places like Mt. Bonnell, Tarrytown, Westlake, South Congress, etc., and a portion of the market would be taken away from downtown. Nowadays most younger high-rise renters are drawn to downtown Austin for what it has become, but that draw would not have been so strong 10 years ago, and it would have taken longer to develop. The GFR requirements have also done a lot to create an interesting and agreeable neighborhood downtown, without things like hulking parking garages and curb cuts with cars speeding in and out hurting pedestrian life in places like 6th Street or Congress Ave.

 

On the other hand, zoning slows the process for buildings like 600 Guadalupe to come out of the ground due to all the approvals and negotiations needed, and the Capitol View Corridors have driven up land prices for high-rise sites by limiting supply. Houston held the record for most expensive land in the state with the sale of the Chronicle site a view years ago, but Austin has blown past that since.

 

 

Don't you also think a lot of our development is due to the sheer size of our metropolis? I mean Austin is pretty small in size so the need for certain things isn't necessary. 

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5 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Don't you also think a lot of our development is due to the sheer size of our metropolis? I mean Austin is pretty small in size so the need for certain things isn't necessary. 

 

I am just discussing how zoning might have made Austin's downtown different from what it would have been without zoning. As far as size of our metropolis, it's a factor, but Austin has shown that it can draw people from other Texas cities who like what it offers. Plenty of people in those highrises were born and raised in Houston.

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3 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

 

Zoning forces all high-rise development in Austin to be downtown or immediately south across the river. If not for zoning, you would certainly have high rises offering amazing views in places like Mt. Bonnell, Tarrytown, Westlake, South Congress, etc., and a portion of the market would be taken away from downtown. Nowadays most younger high-rise renters are drawn to downtown Austin for what it has become, but that draw would not have been so strong 10 years ago, and it would have taken longer to develop. The GFR requirements have also done a lot to create an interesting and agreeable neighborhood downtown, without things like hulking parking garages and curb cuts with cars speeding in and out hurting pedestrian life in places like 6th Street or Congress Ave.

 

On the other hand, zoning slows the process for buildings like 600 Guadalupe to come out of the ground due to all the approvals and negotiations needed, and the Capitol View Corridors have driven up land prices for high-rise sites by limiting supply. Houston held the record for most expensive land in the state with the sale of the Chronicle site a view years ago, but Austin has blown past that since.

 

 

I was reading a thread about a high-rise being planned near the Houstonian, and someone commented that the project was "another example of Houston having all the density with none of the benefits." I think your post is a good explanation of why that's the case. 

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On 9/19/2018 at 10:48 AM, rechlin said:

SkylineView, "drag" it out of purgatory is literally correct!  All you have to do is drag it from that linked page and into the post editor and it will work.  Like this:

 

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/SkylineView/image2_zpsym0hihgp.jpeg

I thought the bus lanes were supposed to feature a strip of grass down the center. Metro’s website shows the renderings/schematics with grass. They even refer to it as a “green guideway”. The photo above looks like it’s solid concrete.

 

https://www.ridemetro.org/Pages/UptownBRT.aspx

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It might be narrower on the curves and where they have to accommodate turn lanes.  It for sure looks like there's going to be plenty of trees on the outside

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