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I've always thought a heavy rail subway under Westheimer from like Beltway 8 all the way into downtown would get great ridership. 

 

If I had a somewhat unlimited check book I'd do:

 

Elevated light rail west of S. Rice st (at grade in certain spots if possible / if there are long stretches without lights). Keep it in the median as there is plenty of street capacity for cars.

 

Underground light rail east of Sage......something like Boston's system.

 

That would save "some" $. But we're talking bazillions of dollars here.

 

Pipe dreams.....

 

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If I had a somewhat unlimited check book I'd do:

 

Elevated light rail west of S. Rice st (at grade in certain spots if possible / if there are long stretches without lights). Keep it in the median as there is plenty of street capacity for cars.

 

Underground light rail east of Sage......something like Boston's system.

 

That would save "some" $. But we're talking bazillions of dollars here.

 

Pipe dreams.....

 

 

Heh, yea my fantasy system would likely cost like $25-30 billion, but it'd get amazing ridership.  Neither here nor there though. 

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For anyone interested in the BRT lanes veing installed alobg Post Oak Blvd... the recent news is very positive... so excited to see this moving forward... the Attorney General basically washed his hands on the issue... I wonder how pissed off those who are against the BRT lanes are now? Lol

Uptown-houston.com

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For anyone interested in the BRT lanes veing installed alobg Post Oak Blvd... the recent news is very positive... so excited to see this moving forward... the Attorney General basically washed his hands on the issue... I wonder how pissed off those who are against the BRT lanes are now? Lol

Uptown-houston.com

 

Is there an article that discusses this?

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any potential start date? I'm guessing they wouldn't want the roads ripped up around Super Bowl. 

 

So either start now or wait until next year?

 

Work started sometime last year.

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3 hours ago, Urbannizer said:

HAHAHA! Man there is no way they have a case. They are fighting tooth and nail with whatever they can. Wayne Dolefino!? HAHAHA! Dude needs to get a life.  

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Ahh.. the good ole Cosmopolitan residents strike again. There are plenty of words I can think of to describe them. Unfortunately, they would all be censored on this forum..

Can the city/Uptown TIRZ sue them back? That could put them in their place..

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Hold on a second...... 

 

I dont know anything about this case but, it makes an allegation that certain policies where not followed and open meetings/records laws were similarly not followed in the procurement of parcels of land.  since I am not a lawyer and I have no idea about any local or State precedents, etc, I can't make a judgement on the efficacy of this lawsuit.  It might be spurious or it might have merit.   How can you judge it merits? 

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I don't like the connection between the Post Oak bus lanes and the West Loop bus lane structure. The connection underneath the overpass at Post Oak road will slow down buses and preclude future options, like opening up the West Loop structure to vanpools or HOV. The proposed design is also more disruptive to the main lanes during construction.

http://houstonfreeways.com/Home/west-loop-bus-lanes

 

I attached an image of my suggested better design.

 

TxDOTs public meeting is Tuesday

 

610-bus-lanes.jpg

 

 

 

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I agree, making the bus lane go through the Post Oak/610 frontage intersection always seemed silly to me. Good point about the S curve too. Great amendments all around! It would be nice to see this revision implemented..

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Great (and very sensible) proposal, Max.

 

It appears more easily adapted to rail... sorry, "an alternative use."

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Yeah I'll admit I like it, but with regards to the "S" curve, no other vehicle other than a bus will be allowed onto the lane...and allows plenty of room for a future rail curve...

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don't see how it could be related at all.

 

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/04/11/sec-charges-paxton-securities-fraud/

 

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Paxton is named in the SEC's complaint along with William Mapp, the founder and former CEO of Servergy Inc. Paxton is accused of raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for Servergy without disclosing he was making a commission.

 

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"People recruiting investors have a legal obligation to disclose any compensation they are receiving to promote a stock, and we allege that Paxton and White concealed the compensation they were receiving for touting Servergy’s product," Shamoil T. Shipchandler, director of the SEC’s Fort Worth regional office

 

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No I'm speaking more on if it affects his ability to even look over any lawsuits filed. Like how does this effect him being able to do his job?

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15 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

No I'm speaking more on if it affects his ability to even look over any lawsuits filed. Like how does this effect him being able to do his job?

It doesn't. A conviction on his State charges would have more of an impact than the SEC complaint. 

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I think he's referring to the lawsuit( I think) that Paxton ruled on a few months ago, but I don't think it will give the opposition any ground. His ruling was basically, "yeah I'm not getting involved"

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On 4/9/2016 at 4:35 PM, MaxConcrete said:

The connection underneath the overpass at Post Oak road will slow down buses and preclude future options, like opening up the West Loop structure to vanpools or HOV.

 

Umm, maybe because the structure is intended for buses, rather than two-person "carpools"?

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The green option is much better, Less expensive, way more practical, and theres plenty of room to execute it. Throwing it on top of the freeway just to go maybe 1/4 mile just seems like a waste of time. If it was a straight shot from Post Oak to the Katy Bus terminal then that would be a different story.

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I'm a huge fan of the idea presented above.  It gets rid of the bus impact on the 610 frontage-Post Oak intersection, which is already functioning poorly during rush hour. 

 

Site as it is below (facing east).  Pic by me.  

 

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Looks like they are changing the location of the crosswalk.  Look like it because the street will be widened a bit there. 

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I believe it is a nice direction.  Does anybody remember the movie "Logan's Run"?  That is what uptown needs those pods that take your all over the district.  And can be built over the streets.  We are space city so do something!  With all the highrises going up the traffic will just get worse.

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Apologies if I missed this somewhere earlier in the thread, but in lieu of future rail, could they install overhead wires and turn this into an electric bus lane? It would be far less intensive than building rail. 

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On 7/11/2016 at 8:26 AM, Sunstar said:

Apologies if I missed this somewhere earlier in the thread, but in lieu of future rail, could they install overhead wires and turn this into an electric bus lane? It would be far less intensive than building rail. 

They claim they can't, but they most certainly can and probably will. It will depend on ridership. At least this BRT is a start.

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Given the title of this thread, I want to explicitly state that I am FOR transit improvements along the Post Oak corridor, my home for 7 years.

 

Asphalt laid from Uptown Park east.  Utility improvements ongoing along the north / west side at various places.  Tree removal in front of Astoria today (not visible).

2016 08 27: Pic by me.

 

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Given the title of this thread, I want to explicitly state that I am FOR transit improvements along the Post Oak corridor, my home for 7 years.

 

First pours occurred this week.  Also (not pictured) the arches over Post Oak at Four Oaks Place have been lifted and new pieces welded to the bottom.  The bottom is not yet attached to the ground.  

 

2016 12 17: Pic by me.

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The parking lot here has a wall around the site with advertisement for a potential development. A website is listed but didn't catch it while passing by on I-610. Any have the scoop? 

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43 minutes ago, Urbannizer said:

The parking lot here has a wall around the site with advertisement for a potential development. A website is listed but didn't catch it while passing by on I-610. Any have the scoop? 

I believe last time I drove by, it was a staging area for the bus line down Post Oak.

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I'm really looking forward to having decent sidewalks along Post Oak.  Hopefully, Westheimer and San Felipe east of 610 will also be improved.  

Of course, there will still be the Russian Roulette of walking under 610 to get there ... 

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its going to be a little hectic maybe during the process but wow i am blown away by this project and cannot wait for my neighborhood to be this beautiful...wow!!!

(i have lived and worked within a 2 block radius of Post Oak for the past 21 years!)

 

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On 12/23/2016 at 11:17 AM, ArchFan said:

I'm really looking forward to having decent sidewalks along Post Oak.  Hopefully, Westheimer and San Felipe east of 610 will also be improved.  

Of course, there will still be the Russian Roulette of walking under 610 to get there ... 

There has to be a way pedestrians can cross without worry. Maybe if all of our highways had some sort of bridge? Idk

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http://realtynewsreport.com/2017/03/05/the-boulevard-project-a-conversation-with-john-breeding-of-uptown-houston-district/

 

Realty News Report: Will South Post Boulevard continue to have six lanes?


Breeding: Yes. The Boulevard will be constructed in three phases and it is estimated to be completed in late 2018. Driveway access to properties along The Boulevard will be maintained at all times. Two lanes will be open in each direction in active construction segments and all traffic lanes will be open in non-active construction segments. We expect all six lanes will be completed by August 2018.


Realty News Report: Dedicated bus lanes will run in express lanes down the middle of the boulevard. Can you describe these buses? How do the bus riders access the buses?


Breeding: If we were a few years later, we’d be using Tesla buses! But in the first generation of operations, they’ll be articulated buses, painted to look similar to the light rail cars. The buses will have three door units – one front, one back and one in the middle. The bus will pull up to one of eight elevated platforms along The Boulevard and the doors will open. If you are using a wheel chair, you can roll from platform onto the bus or you can take your bike onto the bus, similar to light rail. There will be eight well designed stations over the two miles of Post Oak Boulevard, or The Boulevard as we call it.


Realty News Report: Does the plan offer improvements for pedestrians or cyclists?


Breeding: The real thrilling part of all this is what we are doing for pedestrians. We will expand the four-foot sidewalks along The Boulevard to 12-foot-wide pedestrian environments and more than triple the amount of trees. In essence, Post Oak Boulevard has 350 live oaks. When we finish, it will have over 1,000 and be a colonnade of green.


Realty News Report: Where are the terminus points of the express bus system?


Breeding: The real terminus for the bus system is wherever Metro’s Park & Ride system is. The system will take you to, say, Katy or Sugar Land. A new Uptown Transit Center will be built to serve the Westpark Tollway and Southwest Freeway, allowing commuters and visitors to use the Park & Ride lots along these corridors. The busses will come into and exit through the transit center, and take the short jaunt to The Boulevard. We’re building from I-10 to 59, and two miles of the four miles is on Post Oak Boulevard. We’re just connecting into the system.


Realty News Report: And the timetable for all of this?


Breeding: We are moving very quickly. We have a very aggressive schedule and we ahead of schedule. We have 93 percent of the right of way purchased. We awarded the contract for the first third of construction in July of 2016. People will be driving on three of those lanes on the southbound side soon and driving along all lanes by November. And, two days ago, we awarded $60 million worth of contracts to build from San Felipe to Richmond.

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Does this project include the bus lanes that will be above 610?

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1 hour ago, Triton said:

Does this project include the bus lanes that will be above 610?

 

They are two related projects.  Uptown is doing the lanes in Post Oak Blvd.  TxDOT and Metro are doing the lanes from Post Oak Blvd to the Northwest Transit Center. Last I saw, construction of the 610 bus lanes was anticipated to start in late 2017.

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Didn't want to start a new thread for something so small but the Camden Post Oak tower along this development appears to be getting repainted. It is currently what I would call that yellowish Mediterranean look. It is going to the now typical off-white/grey. 

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My only issue with this project is creating a signature boulevard that in several places fronts a giant parking lot, unless there are plans to redevelop the strip centers into BLVD Place style developments. 

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On 3/7/2017 at 0:20 PM, Houston19514 said:

 

They are two related projects.  Uptown is doing the lanes in Post Oak Blvd.  TxDOT and Metro are doing the lanes from Post Oak Blvd to the Northwest Transit Center. Last I saw, construction of the 610 bus lanes was anticipated to start in late 2017.

 

Thanks.

 

610 will now have two different remodel phases! Going to be a madhouse for the next decade.

 

The Elevated 610 West Loop Express Lanes and then this 610 Bus Lanes.

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I'm pretty surprised this forum hasn't embraced this more. I'm really excited to have BRT in this city. Many of the great world cities use this service and San Francisco is building a couple of lines now. Chicago has the Central Loop BRT line that was finished recently. Knowing how much cheaper this is compared to rail, why not do the same down Richmond Ave or Washington Ave? Especially if it can easily be converted in the future. 

 

theboulevardproject.com

 

 

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I think you're right J-c.  An effective, more affordable and probably less politically volatile than Rail/Light Rail system could really be applied well to Houston to Houston's layout and needs.  If Metro were to propose a Major BRT system, I would get behind it, and stop complaining about lack of rail (although I still think we'd need express rail lines to the airports). 

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