Triton Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 incredible transformation (reversal) so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) Not a reversal.This is not original material. Edited October 21, 2013 by Texasota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) Not a reversal.This is not original material. I think he is just referring to the reversal to the original look of the facade, as opposed to a removal of the current facade to expose the original. Edited October 21, 2013 by fatesdisastr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 eh, i still wouldnt put it like that. Not that I'm not happy to see this happen, but it's an approximation and simplification of the building's original appearance."Reversal" suggests that the damage of the midcentury remodel is being reversed, but that can never happen. The damage was permanent; the vast majority of historic material is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 eh, i still wouldnt put it like that. Not that I'm not happy to see this happen, but it's an approximation and simplification of the building's original appearance."Reversal" suggests that the damage of the midcentury remodel is being reversed, but that can never happen. The damage was permanent; the vast majority of historic material is lost. Yes, but it is overall all an excellent approximation. The original facade was enameled white brick, like the Stowers Building, and it doesn't look like they are replacing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Regardless of what word is used - I'm happy this is happening rather than nothing which would have probably led to an eventual implosion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yes, but it is overall all an excellent approximation. The original facade was enameled white brick, like the Stowers Building, and it doesn't look like they are replacing that. You sure it wasn't beige brick? Granted I've only seen b&w pictures, but I had the impression that it was beige. I was a bit disappointed that they're going with faux brick or "brick sliced thin," since it won't hold up and look nearly as good down the road as real brick, but I seem to be in the minority on here in feeling this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 since it won't hold up and look nearly as good down the road as real brickQuite a bold statement, do you work for the spec manufacturers? How do you know it's future patina or ceramic integrity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 theyre using eifs detailed to look like brick. only the first 3 floors will actually even have real masonry.Of course, that's all youll really be able to perceive from the sidewalk anyway.Hell, the Romans did it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 You sure it wasn't beige brick? Granted I've only seen b&w pictures, but I had the impression that it was beige. I was a bit disappointed that they're going with faux brick or "brick sliced thin," since it won't hold up and look nearly as good down the road as real brick, but I seem to be in the minority on here in feeling this way. In some of the pictures on this topic, both new photos and old postcards, it looks white. It is interesting though that in the rendering of how the completed project is supposed to look they are going for beige on the ground floor and the upper stories that were later additions to the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 This will be a beautiful building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Quite a bold statement, do you work for the spec manufacturers? How do you know it's future patina or ceramic integrity? theyre using eifs detailed to look like brick. only the first 3 floors will actually even have real masonry.Of course, that's all youll really be able to perceive from the sidewalk anyway.Hell, the Romans did it. I guess the Romans should have built their aqueducts out of thin panels that look like bricks instead of actual bricks? Maybe then they'd survive even longer than the 2,000 years they have survived. I don't want to be rude but this is common sense. The classic rectangular shape of a real brick is what it is because of its superb structural integrity. If a thin panel standing on its end was more durable than the conventional brick, I'm sure the Egyptians or whoever invented brick would have figured it out and shaped their clay molds accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 The Romans built (some) temples clad with marble up to a certain height, Above that it was plaster etched to look like marble. Also, whatever they do use here, it's not going to be "structural." All it has to do is hold itself up; the building is in no way reliant upon it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not really defending what they're doing here. Is it better than tearing it down or leaving it the way it was? Yes.This is *not* responsible historic preservation/reconstruction though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 The Romans built (some) temples clad with marble up to a certain height, Above that it was plaster etched to look like marble. Also, whatever they do use here, it's not going to be "structural." All it has to do is hold itself up; the building is in no way reliant upon it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not really defending what they're doing here. Is it better than tearing it down or leaving it the way it was? Yes.This is *not* responsible historic preservation/reconstruction though. I think we can agree that overall the project is a good thing, and going for higher quality probably gets into a law of diminishing returns. And you make a good point, that the brick is at any rate not structural. But even if it's not structural, it still has to hold up to wear and look good. A brick facade with dents, chips, scratches, etc. looks a lot better than a faux-brick panel facade with dents, chips, scratches, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 May have been posted already: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonBoy Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Holy hell that is sick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Holy hell that is sick! The thought of people staying downtown over night is quite the thrill isn't it lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonBoy Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 If you look the little building to the left that is also under some secret (I think) renovation, you can see green neon light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 If you look the little building to the left that is also under some secret (I think) renovation, you can see green neon light? Perhaps there will be some type of rooftop amenity - purely speculating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piwejimenez91 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 10/26/13 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specwriter Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I don't believe S. F. Carter was Jesse H. Jones' nephew as Carter was born some 17 years before Jones. Carter WAS M. T. Jones' business partner in the Emporia Lumber Company and M. T. Jones was Jesse Jones' uncle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Just this morning they started adding some of the fake stone façade to the upper floors: Closeup of the "stone": 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Cool, should be moving along quickly from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Type of approval requested: Install new awning to landmark commercial building. http://www.houstontx.gov/planning/Commissions/docs_pdfs/draft_reports/xIIqq_806_Main_Alteration_Awning_DRAFT.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 This is such a huge upgrade over what was there before. Between BG Place and this, that block of Main will have one from extremely sketchy to fist class. Now they just need to do something about Battelsteins and the one block over $.99 store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Maybe the JW Marriott project will inspire someone to remove the facade from the $0.99 cent store: (courtesy of http://www.houstondeco.org/1920s/krupp.html ) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nole23 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Oh wow thanks for the picture of the .99 cent store. That building should definitley be restored to its original state. Hopefully it's not as badly ruined as 806 Main was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Maybe the JW Marriott project will inspire someone to remove the facade from the $0.99 cent store: (courtesy of http://www.houstondeco.org/1920s/krupp.html ) That's a great looking building. Removing the drunk encampment from the sidewalk in front of it would help too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Maybe the JW Marriott project will inspire someone to remove the facade from the $0.99 cent store: (courtesy of http://www.houstondeco.org/1920s/krupp.html )haha ive been wondering that since i stumbled across that very link when going through that website looking at old architecture. it would be a huge improvement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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