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One of the things I noticed that I feel needs to be addressed is the point feature.

"But IronTiger! You said you didn't care about your + count!"

I don't. But what I despise is people getting the points for being overtly hateful, condescending, and just plain a**hole-ish. I have seen it again and again, often the same group of people racking up points. This needs to stop, and I am increasingly viewing the "reputation" meter as the "jerk meter"...the more you act like a jerk, you get points. Acting like a jackass? Peeling apart arguments and making cheap shots at others' beliefs? What good have you done?

Look, to those who earn their points legitimately and aren't jerks...I'm sorry. But I just cannot tolerate the people who get rewarded by their "friends" for acting like, as Editor puts it, "assclowns".

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If I weren't in bed and on my iPhone right now I would SOO dig up a good Steve Martin photo and quote about Not needing any of this.. Except for this ashtray.. This ashtray and this thermos.

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If I weren't in bed and on my iPhone right now I would SOO dig up a good Steve Martin photo and quote about Not needing any of this.. Except for this ashtray.. This ashtray and this thermos.

Dude, you should sleep on this. Don't get so worked up.

And anyone else responding to this, think before you type. This should not turn into a naming of names or a flame war.

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Dude, you should sleep on this. Don't get so worked up.

And anyone else responding to this, think before you type. This should not turn into a naming of names or a flame war.

I'm not the least bit worked up. I was trying to diffuse another dumb thread with some humour. I felt the need to respond because I know he is referring to me from the 'anything' thread. But you're right, I should have thought before typing and instead let this thread sink alone to the murky depths. I also should have just changed my avatar to Steve martin instead but that's impossible from an iPhone at midnight.

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Peeling apart arguments and making cheap shots at others' beliefs?

What's wrong with peeling apart arguments?

If someone is going to make a baseless, and often offensive claim, it isn't unreasonable to debate it with them. It's unreasonable to expect other people won't debate it.

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What's wrong with peeling apart arguments?

If someone is going to make a baseless, and often offensive claim, it isn't unreasonable to debate it with them. It's unreasonable to expect other people won't debate it.

This is true.

One thing I've noticed is that there is only a plus sign and no minus sign. Can we have the minus sign back?

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Crunch.. you just got a +1 from me.

IronTiger.. I don't know Crunch. I can't think of one single thread where we've had a significant back and forth dialogue. She's not a friend that I'm rewarding.

She get's my +1 because numerous times I've called you out for being a whiner or for the quality of your posts and she just echoed my thoughts.

I therefore agree with her sentiments and they earn my +1.... it could have been a newbies 1st post and those same words would have gotten a +1 from me.

Nobody is out to get you. Cleanup your posts, stop your whining, and eventually ya might start building up more +1s yourself.

As for why I singled you out in the Anything thread in comparison to our 3 lost posters... because you were the one who chose to reply right after Portent's "Quantity ≠ Quality" post with more mindless babble thus driving home the point to perfection. You asked for it.

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Crunch.. you just got a +1 from me.

IronTiger.. I don't know Crunch. I can't think of one single thread where we've had a significant back and forth dialogue. She's not a friend that I'm rewarding.

She get's my +1 because numerous times I've called you out for being a whiner or for the quality of your posts and she just echoed my thoughts.

I therefore agree with her sentiments and they earn my +1.... it could have been a newbies 1st post and those same words would have gotten a +1 from me.

Nobody is out to get you. Cleanup your posts, stop your whining, and eventually ya might start building up more +1s yourself.

As for why I singled you out in the Anything thread in comparison to our 3 lost posters... because you were the one who chose to reply right after Portent's "Quantity ≠ Quality" post with more mindless babble thus driving home the point to perfection. You asked for it.

I dont think of it as a "jerk" meter, its more of a how liberal are you meter....if you are a socialist, communist, or marxist...you get lots of green...if your Pro America, and think this country is on the wrong track...no green for you.

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I dont think of it as a "jerk" meter, its more of a how liberal are you meter....if you are a socialist, communist, or marxist...you get lots of green...if your Pro America, and think this country is on the wrong track...no green for you.

You're anti-American? Must be, considering you've already got the green +1 for this post.

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Marksmu, thanks for making me smile. I love when people do or say the exact thing you would expect them to!

Did you ever, even for a moment, stop to think that someone might not like your posts not because the person is anti-America, but because there is so often a complete logical black hole in what you've written? Like in your last post, where you in one sentence equate liberal, socialist, communist, marxist, and anti-America. And suggest that anyone who doesn't agree with you is all of that. It's pretty funny. I might even plus-1 you for humor.

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I dont think of it as a "jerk" meter, its more of a how liberal are you meter....if you are a socialist, communist, or marxist...you get lots of green...if your Pro America, and think this country is on the wrong track...no green for you.

I'm a moderate conservative. I love soldiers, and think Al Gore is an idiot. This upcoming mayoral race will be the first time in my 12 year voting history that I'll be voting for a democrat. I'm a +45. Theory busted.

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Marksmu, thanks for making me smile. I love when people do or say the exact thing you would expect them to!

Did you ever, even for a moment, stop to think that someone might not like your posts not because the person is anti-America, but because there is so often a complete logical black hole in what you've written? Like in your last post, where you in one sentence equate liberal, socialist, communist, marxist, and anti-America. And suggest that anyone who doesn't agree with you is all of that. It's pretty funny. I might even plus-1 you for humor.

There you go... peeling apart arguments....

IronTiger is sooo disappointed with you.

I'm a moderate conservative. I love soldiers, and think Al Gore is an idiot. This upcoming mayoral race will be the first time in my 12 year voting history that I'll be voting for a democrat. I'm a +45. Theory busted.

You too, with the peeling...

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You're anti-American? Must be, considering you've already got the green +1 for this post.

Ohhh schnapps! (err, 單元, or 스냅인 ?!)

But there he goes again...looks like Home Depot is out of "communist red" by Glidden again.

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This is precisely what I mean, and the "same gang" jumps on this topic. Calling my threads and posts "dumb" (Highway6), Crunch calls me a whiner, LTAWACS would like to get his hands on the Minus sign and attack my posts, and AtticaFlinch laughs at other posters when they make a statement that they trip on.

Like I said, people who make logical arguments and don't attack others beliefs or posts should get +1s.

Assholes should not.

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This is precisely what I mean, and the "same gang" jumps on this topic. Calling my threads and posts "dumb" (Highway6), Crunch calls me a whiner, LTAWACS would like to get his hands on the Minus sign and attack my posts, and AtticaFlinch laughs at other posters when they make a statement that they trip on.

Like I said, people who make logical arguments and don't attack others beliefs or posts should get +1s.

Assholes should not.

There's no way to hard-code this into the forum software, and moderators don't have time to police the pluses so why don't you just get over it and move on? A high plus score gets people nothing in life. They are not getting any advantage over you. Consider for a moment that many of your concerns are those of a kid who has not yet experienced some of life's more difficult "real problems" and wait a bit until you've encountered some of those before making more threads about how you don't have enough pluses and other people have too many.

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It's gotten to the point where I don't think I would ever give you a +1, just out of spite.

I think the only time I gave you a +1 was when you actually contributed something I genuinely appreciate.

Everything else is filler.

Just ignore the issue and it will go away. But this won't happen over night.

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There's no way to hard-code this into the forum software, and moderators don't have time to police the pluses so why don't you just get over it and move on? A high plus score gets people nothing in life. They are not getting any advantage over you. Consider for a moment that many of your concerns are those of a kid who has not yet experienced some of life's more difficult "real problems" and wait a bit until you've encountered some of those before making more threads about how you don't have enough pluses and other people have too many.

Actually, I've reached the conclusion that's not my political beliefs. It's either that I'm not old enough to drink (what, three years?) and I live in College Station. I'm younger than you, so you discredit anything I say. Talk about being closed-minded!

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Actually, I've reached the conclusion that's not my political beliefs. It's either that I'm not old enough to drink (what, three years?) and I live in College Station. I'm younger than you, so you discredit anything I say. Talk about being closed-minded!

I do not discredit anything you say based on your age, and if any person on this board complained about pluses I would tell them to let it go and that its pointless.

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Actually, I've reached the conclusion that's not my political beliefs. It's either that I'm not old enough to drink (what, three years?) and I live in College Station. I'm younger than you, so you discredit anything I say. Talk about being closed-minded!

I lived in College Station for 4 years, I can't say I enjoyed it much.

But no, it's not because you live there, though, I hope that you wise up and leave as soon as you can from that cookie cutter town.

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I think we should have the - back.

I think a proper jerk meter would be to say "you're being a jerk."

the - and + buttons are all fine and good way to see if people agree with what you're saying or if they're calling BS on it. If you don't have an opinion one way or another one it, simply leave it be.

I think that's our new minus-minus. a minus would be "Eh. Don't agree with you", or "You're so full of it." a minus-minus could be "OMG, you're being such a Jerk."

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I think a proper jerk meter would be to say "you're being a jerk."

the - and + buttons are all fine and good way to see if people agree with what you're saying or if they're calling BS on it. If you don't have an opinion one way or another one it, simply leave it be.

I think that's our new minus-minus. a minus would be "Eh. Don't agree with you", or "You're so full of it." a minus-minus could be "OMG, you're being such a Jerk."

A better solution, rid the "profile" attachment of -/+ and leave it attached to the post in question only.

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I lived in College Station for 4 years, I can't say I enjoyed it much.

But no, it's not because you live there, though, I hope that you wise up and leave as soon as you can from that cookie cutter town.

Cookie cutter town? If you're talking about political views, the lean is conservative, but that's not to say there aren't vocal liberals. If you're talking homes, I can prove that Houston's suburbs is full of sprawling homes, all similar. If you're talking about restaurants...I'd tend to agree with you.

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The plusses and minuses are pretty useless, so why get worked up about them? They aren't currency. You can't barter them for anything. You can't eat them. You can't wear them. Plus, there are some cantankerous "jerks" on this board who would use the minuses simply out of spite, regardless of the thought or argument.

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...and AtticaFlinch laughs at other posters when they make a statement that they trip on.

You mean the guy who called people who disagreed with him an anti-American, socialist, communist Marxist?

He didn't trip on those words, and he deserves my laughter.

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You mean the guy who called people who disagreed with him an anti-American, socialist, communist Marxist?

He didn't trip on those words, and he deserves my laughter.

No, he stated that the more green you got, the more liberal you were. Not to worry, his "reputation" is still negative.

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Let's just make a big poster board with our names and put gold and silver stars on it when we do good stuff.

Or we could stop opening pointless threads. Either way.

Ooo.. a shared google docs spread sheet with 100s of collaborators...

We can make this beautifully awesome disaster of an idea work.

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You created the kick-ass stock picking spreadsheet last fall, right?

It's oooh so tempting.. There would be an automatic form that anyone could submit a name for "gold star" .... and there would be kick-ass line graphs comparing all of us of course

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One of the things I noticed that I feel needs to be addressed is the point feature.

"But IronTiger! You said you didn't care about your + count!"

I don't. But what I despise is people getting the points for being overtly hateful, condescending, and just plain a**hole-ish. I have seen it again and again, often the same group of people racking up points. This needs to stop, and I am increasingly viewing the "reputation" meter as the "jerk meter"...the more you act like a jerk, you get points. Acting like a jackass? Peeling apart arguments and making cheap shots at others' beliefs? What good have you done?

Look, to those who earn their points legitimately and aren't jerks...I'm sorry. But I just cannot tolerate the people who get rewarded by their "friends" for acting like, as Editor puts it, "assclowns".

Sorry I'm getting here a couple of days late for this thread. I wish I'd seen it when it started so I could have stopped it before it became three pages long.

For the record, I didn't read the entire thread. Just the first post by IronTiger, and it really has me shaking my head.

Iron, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!?!?

Did it not occur to you that since the last flamewar was touched off by my defense of one of your posts that MAYBE YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN FOR A WHILE?!

All of those things I wrote to Niche and Bag and Red apply to you as well. You must respect your fellow HAIFers. You must play nice with others. And... and this is the big one... THINK BEFORE YOU POST. Ask yourself, "Does this post enhance or degrade HAIF?" I think it's clear from reading the very first post in this thread that it can only serve to make people angry. Is that your intent, or was it just to draw attention to yourself?

If I may put some words in Niche and Red's mouths, they thought you were stupid. The problem wasn't with their thoughts on the matter, but with the way it was handled. I think you write a lot of stupid things, too. The difference is I don't call you names over it. But after you decided to start another flame war with this post, I bet a lot more people see things their way. You only brought it on yourself. Do you think you have some kind of carte blanche around here because I took your side on one issue?

Also, you get a system warning for violating the Terms of Service you agreed to when you signed up for HAIF. Specicifcally,

Vulgarities are not permitted. Using symbols to evade the banned words filter will result in warnings. Repeated violations may result in suspension or termination of your account.

I'd ding you extra for poor judgement, but there's nothing in the rules about that.

As for the points system -- if you don't like it, don't use it. I like it. I also liked the negative points thing, but that was abused. You may not agree with Niche and LTAWACS posts, but there are lots of other people who do and it's perfectly within their rights to mod those posts up. If your estimation is true that they're only getting points because they're friends with someone -- SO WHAT??? What's the harm? Spend six years on HAIF making intelligent posts and I bet you'll have a posse, too. Keep making posts like the one that started this thread, and you'll find no one interested in reading your posts or reaching for that little green + button.

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We can also install a Grease Monkey script that will make the negative vote appear again.

Actually, I wonder if there's a way to make the negative and positive only appear for certain users.

Taking it one step further -- link it to a PayPal API so that every time someone uses the [-] they end up donating money to charity.

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Actually, I wonder if there's a way to make the negative and positive only appear for certain users.

Taking it one step further -- link it to a PayPal API so that every time someone uses the [-] they end up donating money to charity.

Oh, like a probation period, then you have to reach a certain threshold of +'s before you can redeem yourself. :mellow:

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Oh, like a probation period, then you have to reach a certain threshold of +'s before you can redeem yourself. :mellow:

Yeah. Or maybe you have to make xx number of posts before you're allowed to use the + and then another number before you can use -.

I'll put it on my list of thins to look into today.

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