Memories Of Riverside Terrace

[musicman]

yep someone that can round up the troops on a continual basis is the best person for the job!

[rapturematt]

Does anyone know who was in charge of the historic movement in the Heights?

[FilioScotia]

I am very shocked and suprised that Riverside Terrace does not have a historic organization and/or protection established to prevent people from tearing down the homes. I have decided that I am going to try to get something organized. Does anyone have any experience in this? I just don't know where to start. Advice?

I'm not trying to discourage you, but you should know that, in Texas at least, and in Houston, there is no kind of "historic" designation that will prevent people from tearing down old homes or businesses.

State Historical Landmark designation won't do it, and even being on the National Register of Historic Places won't do it. Every historic preservation group in this state has been trying to get the legislature to pass a preservation law with some real teeth, but commercial developers have too much power in Austin for that to happen. Same story at Houston City Council, where developers are in complete control.

Even people in the Heights haven't been able to get historic protection, but some good people in the Heights are hanging in there, trying to fight the good fight. Here's their website: http://www.houstonheights.org/index.htm

You could also contact the Old Sixth Ward Historical District, which is also fighting a losing battle to preserve that area of beautiful old 19th century homes just west of downtown, north of the bayou and south of Washington Avenue. They can probably help you get started.

Here's their website: http://www.old6ward.org/

The Texas Historical Commission is also a great source of information. It has programs and procedures for doing precisely what you are proposing.

Here's a direct link to the FAQ page on the THC website. http://www.thc.state.tx.us/faqs/faqhp.html

Edited January 13, 2008 by FilioScotia

[rapturematt]

I am aware that a historic significance does not really prevent people from tearing down homes, but it does help with federal funding when it come to organization of the civic groups and some improvements for common areas and such. I have even seen some historic groups who are able to get tax breaks and improvement funding for homes being restored.

Either way, an collective organization needs to be established. I know there are a lot of people here that would love to see something started and I would hope some of those people will chime in and give their opinions as well.

[OSWisHome]

I'm not trying to discourage you, but you should know that, in Texas at least, and in Houston, there is no kind of "historic" designation that will prevent people from tearing down old homes or businesses.

State Historical Landmark designation won't do it, and even being on the National Register of Historic Places won't do it. Every historic preservation group in this state has been trying to get the legislature to pass a preservation law with some real teeth, but commercial developers have too much power in Austin for that to happen. Same story at Houston City Council, where developers are in complete control.

Even people in the Heights haven't been able to get historic protection, but some good people in the Heights are hanging in there, trying to fight the good fight. Here's their website: http://www.houstonheights.org/index.htm

You could also contact the Old Sixth Ward Historical District, which is also fighting a losing battle to preserve that area of beautiful old 19th century homes just west of downtown, north of the bayou and south of Washington Avenue. They can probably help you get started.

Here's their website: http://www.old6ward.org/

The Texas Historical Commission is also a great source of information. It has programs and procedures for doing precisely what you are proposing.

Here's a direct link to the FAQ page on the THC website. http://www.thc.state.tx.us/faqs/faqhp.html

FYI---- The Old Sixth Ward is now Houston's first and only Protected Historic District (and the oldest intact neighborhood in Houston). It was a years-long, very labor intensive battle that took great persistence, some savvy, lots of networking with like-minded people and groups, and a whole lot of man hours and trips to City Council from a lot of people who love this neighborhood and were committed enough to "never say die" and never give up. And it took a supermajority of support, which this neighborhood has, and has had to prove to the city again and again across many years. We got our Protected Historic District designation August 1, 2007- nearly 10 years after becoming a municipally designated historic district, and almost 30 years after being listed as a National Register Historic District.

Here is a link to the Certificate of Appropriateness & design guidelines (pattern book) for the Old Sixth Ward on the City's website. http://www.houstontx.gov/planning/historic.../sixth_ward.htm

[Larissa]

Get on the email lists of Historic Houston, Save the Bungalows, Houston Arts and Media, Amnesia Houston, and Save Our Landmarks. Get involved in the preservation community in Houston so you know what is going on and can hear about any workshops or trainings or gatherings that will help you get a start on organizing your neighborhood. Get to know the property owners who are owenr/residents and see how they feel about preserving/protecting their neighborhood. You MUST show a great deal of support at City Hall or you don't get anywhere. Get to know your council members, let them know what you care about, they can put you in touch with others when known. Be visible. You have a good start by posting on this board, post on blogs also and get your ideas and needs out there so people can find you.

Good Luck!

[kokie1846]

My husband and I have an interest in the history and beauty of Riverside Terrace. We took a drive all around there yesterday (sunday) and there is an old large white mansion at 4000 MacGregor. It must be the Weingarten house.

Mary

[BabyJaneHudson]

"This Is Our Home, It Is Not for Sale" (1987)

Filmmaker Jon Schwartz

Color

190 Minutes

This fascinating documentary chronicles the transformation of Houston

[Vertigo58]

"This Is Our Home, It Is Not for Sale" (1987)

Filmmaker Jon Schwartz

Color

190 Minutes

This fascinating documentary chronicles the transformation of Houston

[JLWM8609]

Oh yeah! I've GOT to go see that!

[JLWM8609]

Here's the link where you can buy tickets.

http://www.mfah.org/films.asp?par1=1&p...mp;currentPage=

[hbcu]

amazing how us blacks have gotten bad raps which has caused other races to develop that same mindset even though they were treated just as bad...

Why would a Jew be prejudiced against a black when they were done wrong by someone with the same skin color who opposed their religion in early 1900s?

sad part about it....this same story (white flight) I would like to see has been replayed all across Houston to the point to where whites are back to the farms

[NenaE]

The Weingarten house still stands at 4000 S. MacGregor. I don't know if the Weingartens initally sold their house to a black family or not, but white people live there now.

Now that you mention it, I noticed that there was a white lady sitting outside, when I drove by, when I backed up to do a double-take on that Weingarten gem, and get an address. Just thought, she must be used to this, by now. Frankly, I don't care what color the people are, as long as they love & take care of those beauties. That front beveled glass is what caught my eye initially.

Oh, and I would like to see that film you all talk about, heard of it many yrs. ago.

Edited March 12, 2009 by NenaE

[JLWM8609]

Now that you mention it, I noticed that there was a white lady sitting outside, when I drove by, when I backed up to do a double-take on that Weingarten gem, and get an address. Just thought, she must be used to this, by now. Frankly, I don't care what color the people are, as long as they love & take care of those beauties. That front beveled glass is what caught my eye initially.

Oh, and I would like to see that film you all talk about, heard of it many yrs. ago.

That house could use a little care. I'm pretty sure they know what a historic gem the house is, I hope it gets restored to its former glory one day and not replaced by a gaudy MegaMcMansion.

[KinkaidAlum]

Riverside Terrace is a jewel. Easily the prettiest setting in town inside the loop. The neighborhood really does have multiple ravines and compared to most of Houston, it's "hilly."

That said, on my last trip thru there, I've noticed that there have been some TERRIBLE McMansion builds. Some of the nastiest houses I have ever seen. I am glad that the hood is healthy enough for people to invest in, but it's a real shame to see historical gems being ruined by typical builder crap. Oh well, if it can happen in River Oaks it can happen anywhere...

[NenaE]

Riverside Terrace is a jewel. Easily the prettiest setting in town inside the loop. The neighborhood really does have multiple ravines and compared to most of Houston, it's "hilly."

That said, on my last trip thru there, I've noticed that there have been some TERRIBLE McMansion builds. Some of the nastiest houses I have ever seen. I am glad that the hood is healthy enough for people to invest in, but it's a real shame to see historical gems being ruined by typical builder crap. Oh well, if it can happen in River Oaks it can happen anywhere...

On my recent drive thru Riverside, I even saw a few large, long pieces of metal roofing bent around several trees, on a house lot that backs to one of those ravines. An eerie reminder of the strength of mother nature. I see trees everyday that were affected by that hurricane. Were many of Riverside's trees lost?

Houston is amazing, I am a native Houstonian, and see something new (old bldgs I've never seen before or terrain differences I didn't know were there) every time I explore to take pictures. This town is absolutely huge. I hope we don't lose too much history in the name of new development. I especially hate to see those very old downtown "ward" houses disappear.

[marketingwiz]

Now that you mention it, I noticed that there was a white lady sitting outside, when I drove by, when I backed up to do a double-take on that Weingarten gem, and get an address. Just thought, she must be used to this, by now. Frankly, I don't care what color the people are, as long as they love & take care of those beauties. That front beveled glass is what caught my eye initially.

Oh, and I would like to see that film you all talk about, heard of it many yrs. ago.

I managed to snag a copy from the director, Jon Schwartz, no less, when I went to its most recent screening last April (I believe) at the Museum of Fine Arts. I wasn't able to stay for the 2+ hour film but I did buy a copy from the director who was there to present his documentary. Last time I checked, you could buy a DVD from the MFA gift shop. It's worth a check.

[sevfiv]

It is available for $60 here:

http://thisisourhomeitisnotforsale.com/

[Highway6]

I admit, my only knowledge of Riverside Terrace used to be on the rare occasion when i would exit UH to the south and wonder what those mansions were on the other side of the bayou.

If this neighborhood is so golden, why is there what looks to be a decent sized cleared corner lot across the street from some mansions going for under 55k.. History of this neighborhood aside.. that seems like quite a steal.

Edited April 14, 2009 by Highway6

[sevfiv]

Speaking of lots:

Beautifully Landscaped lot perfect for redevelopment. The lot to the west was replatted and construction of fourteen townhomes has begun. The lot is fully fenced with many mature trees and functioning pool. The home is occuped and dogs are present. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO WALK THE PROPERTY.

http://search.har.com/engine/dispSearch.cf...mp;backButton=Y

I think this house was discussed as being haunted in another thread.

[musicman]

Speaking of lots:

Beautifully Landscaped lot perfect for redevelopment.

what a waste.

[NenaE]

I've been looking at that house, too, on HAR..."perfect for redevelopment"...uuuhhhhhh....what? I hate that term. They wouldn't tear that down, would they? Please say it isn't so...the house needs to stay, & some more big dogs to protect it. Townhomes, boo. I like to see Townhomes & Brownstones in certain locations...but Not there! I really hope Riverside doesn't get torn up with this kind of redevelopment, just because of it's location.

[Highway6]

well.. the lot i was referring to has already razed whatever it held to the ground.

There are 3 lots, 53k, 60k, and 70k in that neighborhood.... which compared to other prices I've been seeing, seem more comparable to questionable neighborhoods, or properties right next to RR tracks...

Like i said.. i know nothing about this area. To me its a transition zone of which I know nada... but it seems pleasant enough from a clueless google maps perspective.

[NenaE]

link to Riverside ghost house talk, starts at post #14...

It is the one at 2615. I sure would like to know who the original owner was, and what year the house was built. Probably 1920's.

http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/i...showtopic=11222

Edited April 15, 2009 by NenaE

[JLWM8609]

why is there what looks to be a decent sized cleared corner lot across the street from some mansions going for under 55k..

Address?

[sarahiki]

The problem is that this neighborhood is not a "transitional" neighborhood. It just is what it is. It would seem like it ought to be transitional... still priced low, close to everything. But many people living here really don't want it to change. Plus there are a lot of really trashy apartment complexes, and an awful lot of police activity.

Maybe it will turn out to be a model of healthy development... some plots, here and there, developed into denser townhomes, mixed with large single family houses, and apartments. There are certainly enough buses to make it a no-car urban neighborhood. But it is in serious need of decent retail, and I just don't see that happening with the perception (and reality? I don't know) of crime here.

[Highway6]

The problem is that this neighborhood is not a "transitional" neighborhood.

I wasn't clear, sorry.

I meant this neighborhood is roughly a mile or 2 from MedCenter/Rice homes and the same distance from Upper 3rd Ward homes.... polar opposites.. it's a middle (transitional) area of which honestly, I've never had reason to be curious about.

Course.. this is houston, so there are transitional areas everywhere.

[sarahiki]

I wasn't clear, sorry.

I meant this neighborhood is roughly a mile or 2 from MedCenter/Rice homes and the same distance from Upper 3rd Ward homes.... polar opposites.. it's a middle (transitional) area of which honestly, I've never had reason to be curious about.

Course.. this is houston, so there are transitional areas everywhere.

Oh yes, sorry I misread you. But nevertheless, people do think of this as a transitional neighborhood, in the sense that I was talking about. And I'm not sure it is.

[NenaE]

link to Riverside ghost house talk, starts at post #14...

It is the one at 2615. I sure would like to know who the original owner was, and what year the house was built. Probably 1920's.

http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/i...showtopic=11222

House at 2615 Riverside, Yr. Blt. 1935 (HCAD, if they are correct), Good Quality, Fair Condition.

[spikey2]

That section of Riverside is under going a major make over with new townhomes ,condo's and a multi-million dollar project being built on the corner of N Macgregor and 288. Very little thought is given to save any of those beautiful homes in that area

[NenaE]

http://texashistory.unt.edu/permalink/meta-pth-5865:83

Anyone recognize this one?

Spanish style...who's was it, originally?

address?

Is it still there?

[Dan the Man]

http://texashistory.unt.edu/permalink/meta-pth-5865:83

Anyone recognize this one?

Spanish style...who's was it, originally?

address?

Is it still there?

I think that one is gone, probably demolished for 288. Judging by the fact that the loggia is on the right side of the house, I'd venture to say the house was on the north side of the street (loggias & screen porches were almost always on the southeast side of a house to catch the breeze). Perhaps historicaerials.com could give us clues to a more definite location?

[NenaE]

I think that one is gone, probably demolished for 288. Judging by the fact that the loggia is on the right side of the house, I'd venture to say the house was on the north side of the street (loggias & screen porches were almost always on the southeast side of a house to catch the breeze). Perhaps historicaerials.com could give us clues to a more definite location?

I couldn't locate it on G.Earth or HistAeriels...perhaps you are right...will have to drive by...Too bad, it was a nice looking one. I did find an interesting (but not as ornate) very large house on the corner of MacGregor Way & Riverside Dr. (address may be 2506 Riverside Dr.), driveway is on MacGregor Way. Trees grown up around it, looks spooky. See google/earth.

And a new listing...wonder what it looked like, originally.

http://search.har.com/engine/dispSearch.cf...mp;backButton=Y

[sevfiv]

Yeah, this is all the information I could find on the Parten house...those block numbers don't seem to exist anymore or refer to something else completely:

File No: C491317

Grantor:PARTEN LEO W ETAL

Grantee:CAMPBELL JOYCE E

Date:19670501

Type:REL

Desc:RIVERSIDE TER 11L0024B0058PT/LT

Vol-Page:6746038

File No:

C177069

Grantor:PARTEN LEO W ETAL

Grantee:AMERICAN GEN INVMT CORP

FC: 039350298

Date:19651011

Type:ASSGN

Desc:RIVERSIDE TER 12 P L7 B61 &

Vol-Page:6101615

File No: C177069

Grantor:PARTEN LEO W ETAL

Grantee:JACKSON RICHARD A ETAL

FC: 039350298

Date:19651011 Type:W/D

Desc:RIVERSIDE TER 12 P L7 B61 &

Vol-Page:6101615

File No: V954983

Grantor:PARTEN JOHN R ETAL

Grantee:CRISWELL & ASSOCT INC

FC: 554301807

Date:20020723

Type:W/D

Desc:RIVERSIDE TER Section:10 Lot: Block:B0054 Misc:INSTR

Unfortunately, the Harris County Block Books are not accessible..

[NenaE]

Which one is the Parten house? Oh, nevermind, that's the modern one, below the Spanish one, in the pic. That's a very early mod home.

The spooky one at 2506 Riverside Dr. was blt. in 1955, according to HCAD. Lt. 1, Blk 32, Section 5, Riverside Terrace.

There are some on the block from the 1930's.

We need to be able to see the block books.

Edited April 20, 2009 by NenaE

[sevfiv]

Oops, I read quickly and assumed the Parten house was the Spanish one - maybe both are gone, though.

[NenaE]

...

The spooky one at 2506 Riverside Dr. was blt. in 1955, according to HCAD. Lt. 1, Blk 32, Section 5, Riverside Terrace.

There are some on the block from the 1930's.

We need to be able to see the block books.

2506 Riverside Dr. was designed by Bailey A. Swenson in the year 1936 (AIA Arch. Guide). Where on earth is HAR getting it's information? "White-stucco surfaced, flat-roofed modern", mentions it was the first Ben Proler house. Wow, 1936, that was early for modern, wonder what the neighbors thought.

BTW, the block books are back.

http://books.tax.hctx.net/v061/AE1997_61-1_0071.jpg

Edited April 21, 2009 by NenaE

[NenaE]

I have another one, 3222 Oakmont. In Southland Terrace. French chateau style (what's the proper term?)...reminds me of the big Weingarten house, smaller scale, of course. Has a porte-cochere. This one's just sitting there, rotting. HCAD says it was built in 1949, renovated 2002. Huh? What a waste. It's open to the elements. A fallen yard sign said something about the "sale of the lot".

[JLWM8609]

So many people have bought that house and tried to restore it, only to flee from it. I think it has some very expensive issues that cost more to repair than the house is worth.

I don't think it's in Southland Terrace. Southland Terrace begins past Shenandoah.

I have another one, 3222 Oakmont. In Southland Terrace. French chateau style (what's the proper term?)...reminds me of the big Weingarten house, smaller scale, of course. Has a porte-cochere. This one's just sitting there, rotting. HCAD says it was built in 1949, renovated 2002. Huh? What a waste. It's open to the elements. A fallen yard sign said something about the "sale of the lot".

Edited April 27, 2009 by JLWM8609

[cosmic08]

After reading so many posts about Riverside Terrace, I decided to take a drive and see it for myself. I drove down S. MacGregor, and honestly, it was kinda sad to see. Don't get me wrong - there were many well kept beautiful homes, but there were also other huge homes that were abandoned and unkept. I even saw homes with boarded up windows and overgrown grass, and these homes were huge, beautiful structures that are now wasting away - so sad. I enjoyed the beauty of the majority of the homes, but the ones that were abandoned really struck me.

[NenaE]

So many people have bought that house and tried to restore it, only to flee from it. I think it has some very expensive issues that cost more to repair than the house is worth.

I don't think it's in Southland Terrace. Southland Terrace begins past Shenandoah.

Yeah, sources are not always right...there are so many little sections within Riverside, many names. The Southland Terrace name came from the block books. Said something about resubdivided. I would like to see or make a map of the whole area, by each little subdivision. It's complicated.

Saw many home owners for that lot, and the list only went back to 1984. Sad...I would like to know who designed it. And how long ago were the train tracks taken up? The large apt. complex close to the rr tracks (on the north side) looks like it needs to go.

JLWM, You really know your neighborhood. I'm impressed. What a place to live, among these giants.

I'm surprised the Weingarten house doesn't have a nice iron fence around it.

Crescent Island was interesting, only slabs left now. Hermann St., as well. Looks like Hwy 288 or flooding took care of that. The creek on the map was interesting to see (It was by N. MacGregor Way & Riverside Dr.).

Cosmic08, now you see why I'm so fascinated with Riverside, I see so much architectural talent there. And the sloping land makes it even more interesting. In the 1960's-70's, my grandmother would take us down those main bayou drives in route to the zoo, and we would admire those homes.

Edited April 27, 2009 by NenaE

[cosmic08]

Yep, I can totally see where you are coming from, NenaE. My imagination ran wild just thinking about what these once great homes looked like years ago. The abandoned homes looked frozen in time. It looks like an abandoned River Oaks or something

[NenaE]

I have another question, On the Weingarten lot, what was the white rectangular shape seen in the earlier 1957,64 historic aerial maps? I'm guessing a tennis court or a pool. Close to the side road, was slowly covered by the scrubs.

[JLWM8609]

Yeah, sources are not always right...there are so many little sections within Riverside, many names. The Southland Terrace name came from the block books. Said something about resubdivided. I would like to see or make a map of the whole area, by each little subdivision. It's complicated.

Saw many home owners for that lot, and the list only went back to 1984. Sad...I would like to know who designed it. And how long ago were the train tracks taken up? The large apt. complex close to the rr tracks (on the north side) looks like it needs to go.

JLWM, You really know your neighborhood. I'm impressed. What a place to live, among these giants.

I'm surprised the Weingarten house doesn't have a nice iron fence around it.

Crescent Island was interesting, only slabs left now. Hermann St., as well. Looks like Hwy 288 or flooding took care of that. The creek on the map was interesting to see (It was by N. MacGregor Way & Riverside Dr.).

Cosmic08, now you see why I'm so fascinated with Riverside, I see so much architectural talent there. And the sloping land makes it even more interesting. In the 1960's-70's, my grandmother would take us down those main bayou drives in route to the zoo, and we would admire those homes.

The train tracks were taken up in 1985. There's rumors that the tracks will be back in the guise of commuter rail to Pearland in 20-30 years, and that homes along Ardmore may be in danger of future acquirement by TxDOT for the purpose of adding a station or double tracks. Hopefully that's not true as I'm on Ardmore!

I'm not too surprised about an iron fence not being around the Weingarten mansion. The current owners of the Weingarten mansion aren't giving it the TLC it really needs. I hate to point this out, but in "This is Our Home...", the original white owners of the homes in the area believed that the black owners wouldn't give the houses the TLC they needed. In a twist of irony, the current owners of the Weingarten mansion are white and have been there for a long long time, just proving that race doesn't matter, anybody can let their home fall into disrepair.

That "creek" was actually the original alignment of the bayou until the 1910s or 1920s. Part of it still exists, as you can see it from the 288 feeder road driving NB between N. Mac Gregor and Riverside.

Those apartments on N. MacGregor should be history soon. The winds and flooding during Ike took them out.

I have another question, On the Weingarten lot, what was the white rectangular shape seen in the earlier 1957,64 historic aerial maps? I'm guessing a tennis court or a pool. Close to the side road, was slowly covered by the scrubs.

I think that was a tennis court.

[NenaE]

The train tracks were taken up in 1985. There's rumors that the tracks will be back in the guise of commuter rail to Pearland in 20-30 years, and that homes along Ardmore may be in danger of future acquirement by TxDOT for the purpose of adding a station or double tracks. Hopefully that's not true as I'm on Ardmore!

I'm not too surprised about an iron fence not being around the Weingarten mansion. The current owners of the Weingarten mansion aren't giving it the TLC it really needs. I hate to point this out, but in "This is Our Home...", the original white owners of the homes in the area believed that the black owners wouldn't give the houses the TLC they needed. In a twist of irony, the current owners of the Weingarten mansion are white and have been there for a long long time, just proving that race doesn't matter, anybody can let their home fall into disrepair.

That "creek" was actually the original alignment of the bayou until the 1910s or 1920s. Part of it still exists, as you can see it from the 288 feeder road driving NB between N. Mac Gregor and Riverside.

Those apartments on N. MacGregor should be history soon. The winds and flooding during Ike took them out.

I think that was a tennis court.

Have studied that 288 section of the bayou, recently, saw it on an early map, & drove by, it's interesting.

You're right, it's easy to stereotype...It's a shame the Wgtn house is falling into disrepair. I was wondering if deed restrictions had something to do with the fence. Would like to see it "somewhat" protected by an iron one, then we could still see it from the road. I would have thought such a prominent family house would have had one to begin with, especially with that cemetery in the back.

[Dan the Man]

I wish the Weingarten House was better maintained; it's a beautiful house. I've heard that it flooded during Allison, can anyone confirm this?

Here's a picture of 3222 Oakmont from 2005:

[JLWM8609]

You know, in all of my 22 years (all of them spent in Riverside), I don't think I can recall a time when 3222 Oakmont was livable. My relatives call it the "Monster House" because in its present state, it looks like something out of a horror movie.

[NenaE]

Thnx for the pic, Dan...By-the-way, this house looks the same, now. You could see that there were windows on each side of the door, identical to the ones seen on the front, bottom, bricked up now. Didn't notice on the drive-by that the left front window is longer than the right. What do you think the long piece across the front, above the door was? Maybe something ornamental, wouldn't have been a porch on a design like that. The middle porthole window is busted open, now. The long (staircase?) window on the side is a neat one. The roof looks fairly new. Wish it could be saved.

Too bad about the vacancy history, just know at one time, it was very grand.

[Dan the Man]

Thnx for the pic, Dan...By-the-way, this house looks the same, now. You could see that there were windows on each side of the door, identical to the ones seen on the front, bottom, bricked up now. Didn't notice on the drive-by that the left front window is longer than the right. What do you think the long piece across the front, above the door was? Maybe something ornamental, wouldn't have been a porch on a design like that. The middle porthole window is busted open, now. The long (staircase?) window on the side is a neat one. The roof looks fairly new. Wish it could be saved.

Too bad about the vacancy history, just know at one time, it was very grand.

Actually, I think that long piece across the front is the ghost outline of a porch roof. However, it was probably added after the house was built, and it was probably really unattractive, due to the fact that it clashed with the style of the house. I have a feeling that the entry is not original either, as it has this tacky patterned glass or plastic in it, very 1960s. Speaking of style, I'm not really sure what this house falls under; the design is kind of a mix of French and Georgian elements, but it's very attractive. The brickwork is amazing, but it's a shame that it was painted. JLWM8609, do you know what color the house was originally?

[JLWM8609]

Actually, I think that long piece across the front is the ghost outline of a porch roof. However, it was probably added after the house was built, and it was probably really unattractive, due to the fact that it clashed with the style of the house. I have a feeling that the entry is not original either, as it has this tacky patterned glass or plastic in it, very 1960s. Speaking of style, I'm not really sure what this house falls under; the design is kind of a mix of French and Georgian elements, but it's very attractive. The brickwork is amazing, but it's a shame that it was painted. JLWM8609, do you know what color the house was originally?

It's been painted as long as I can remember. I think I remember it used to be white at one point. I wouldn't be surprised if it has been painted its whole life.