HAIF-HD2 Upgrade

[editor]

I've just upgraded the HAIF software once again. Many bugs were fixed. But some new bugs were introduced. If you see anything wrong, please report it here or send me a PM.

[editor]

I already see that View New Posts is completely broken. No need to report it.

[sevfiv]

Yay for the page numbers nex tto the search results

[lockmat]

is the font smaller? i like it

[editor]

OK, New Posts and everything else should work now. Here's what I've noticed that's new:

• In My Settings you can choose how New Posts behaves -- does it show only new stuff, or all new stuff since you last visit (old HAIF style).
  
• In My Settings you can choose to have the results of New Post searches displayed like a forum (old HAIF style) or a list (new style).
  
• The front page sidebar now has a "What's on your mind?" box so you can update your status without having to go to your profile settings.
  

is the font smaller? i like it

I didn't change it, but that doesn't mean it's not different. I think it's too small, but I think I'll keep it this size so it's a little more friendly for people on netbooks and cheap laptops.

[editor]

• Users can now subtitle themselves. For example, under my avatar it currently says "Glad to be done with another upgrade." Access from My Settings > Profile > Member Title
  

[20thStDad]

Thanks for the View New Posts options, I am digging it.

[Pumapayam]

• Users can now subtitle themselves. For example, under my avatar it currently says "Glad to be done with another upgrade." Access from My Settings > Profile > Member Title
  

Nice, I gave myself a promotion , now off to dinner.

[editor]

• Fixed a problem with the post rating system.
  

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• You can now list your AIM address in your contact information on your profile.
  
• If you have an AIM address filled in on your profile, it will appear next to your posts and users can click on the link to send you a message.
  

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• Ditto now for MSN Messenger. I don't have MSN, so if someone could test this for me, that would be aces.
  
• Ditto now for Yahoo! Messenger. I don't have Y!, so if someone could test this for me, that would be spiffy.
  
• Ditto now for Jabber and other XMPP clients. I don't have Jabber, so if someone could test this for me, that would be swell.
  
• Ditto now for Skype.
  
• Ditto now for Twitter.
  

[editor]

• Tweaked something that will help make HAIF load faster on older computers.
  

[editor]

I know some people are going to lose their minds over this, but let's try it anyway...

• User reputation is now displayed in threads.
  

You may now lose your minds.

[Pumapayam]

I know some people are going to lose their minds over this, but let's try it anyway...

• User reputation is now displayed in threads.
  

You may now lose your minds.

Now Just make the "reputation" a searchable item for people to sort in the member data base and THEN all hell will break lose.

So what are all the verbal descriptions, poor/bad/neutral/excellent?

[TheNiche]

• Users can now subtitle themselves. For example, under my avatar it currently says "Glad to be done with another upgrade." Access from My Settings > Profile > Member Title
  

Too. Many. Features.

[editor]

So what are all the verbal descriptions, poor/bad/neutral/excellent?

Dunno. I haven't figured out how to change those yet. If I do, I'm going to give "neutral" a much wider range.

[20thStDad]

After the HD2 upgrade I can see HAIF at work again. Uh oh.

[Highway6]

I know some people are going to lose their minds over this, but let's try it anyway...

• User reputation is now displayed in threads.

You may now lose your minds.

Yah.. don't like it. Can see this leading to those with bad reps not posting anymore. Too in your face. It's one thing for someone reading a thread to click on the profile of someone they may disagree with to see what others think... its something else to have advertised with every post you make that nobody likes you or ever agrees with you. Might lead to people seeing red, and just instantly glossing over/ignoring.

There are certain people i know that when they post, I know there will be a slim chance of me respecting the post, or agreeing with the post, even before reading it.... but they should at least have a fair chance to make their impression on new people that join. They should also have a fair chance in changing the minds of those that have rated them poorly, if they so desire... i think this will be much harder to do if everyone else is constantly reminded of their bad rep score.

Also.. hate the new puke green.

Edited July 20, 2009 by Highway6

[editor]

Yah.. don't like it. Can see this leading to those with bad reps not posting anymore. Too in your face. It's one thing for someone reading a thread to click on the profile of someone they may disagree with to see what others think... its something else to have advertised with every post you make that nobody likes you or ever agrees with you. Might lead to people seeing red, and just instantly glossing over/ignoring.

There are certain people i know that when they post, I know there will be a slim chance of me respecting the post, or agreeing with the post, even before reading it.... but they should at least have a fair chance to make their impression on new people that join. They should also have a fair chance in changing the minds of those that have rated them poorly, if they so desire... i think this will be much harder to do if everyone else is constantly reminded of their bad rep score.

Anyone else agree or disagre?

Also.. hate the new puke green.

That was chosen to make the rating box less obvious. In its old colors it commanded too much attention.

[TheNiche]

Anyone else agree or disagre?

That was chosen to make the rating box less obvious. In its old colors it commanded too much attention.

I completely agree with Highway6. Furthermore, I question the validity of a rep scoring system based on people's approval of individual posts. If that system is used to prevent "me too" or "f___ you" posts, that's fine. But to have it all aggregate seems like a method that lacks validity. And to rub HAIFers' noses in their level of popularity is just asinine. Besides, don't we already have a user ratings system? Redundancy?

The old orange-yellow stars worked well design-wise and drew attention because they were a complimentary color to HAIFy blue. If you want something not to stand out, try using various shades of blues and grays. You might even get away with shades of blue that have a tad bit of purple or green, but where those aren't the dominant hues.

I also don't like this feature that you enabled allowing people to give themselves a title above the user rank graphic. We already have "status" settings and the ability to use sigs. This seems redundant and is also oddly-placed. Just because we have the capability to enable the use of features does not mean that we necessarily should.

Edited July 20, 2009 by TheNiche

[RedScare]

I wonder, are all these cute new features the reason that thread pages will not load, and sometimes the entire site freezes up? This has been going on for nearly 24 hours on multiple computers, so I know it is not my computer or ISP. I also note that crunch and others are having the same problem. Having neat features on a forum that will not load is akin to having GPS on a car that won't start. Just sayin'...

[Highway6]

Que ?? Are these something i have control over or are they bestowed at some point ?

DotCom Donor: none

BonusGroup1: Regular

Also, I for one have had zero haify loading problems today.

Edited July 20, 2009 by Highway6

[rsb320]

I had problems all day using IE 6 at work, especially using the New Posts listing feature. At home, Mozilla Fire Fox seems to work just fine.

[Highway6]

User on-line in its current position is pretty distracting when trying to read a user's name.

Can this move to above or below the avatar?

[crunchtastic]

I was just now able to view the entire Ghandi thread. Many of the others are now loading, but only partially. Just for grins, I'm going to run Firefox and see if the situation improves. If not, back to shopping and porn.

y'all PM me if I miss something juicy.

edit: if figured IE 6 at work was the culprit, but at home I'm on 7 and it's never given me any grief. Ding, firefox is done downloading.....

Edited July 21, 2009 by crunchtastic

[N Judah]

Internet Explorer has been putting large amounts of whitespace in posts. Many posts are tens of pages long.

Edited July 21, 2009 by N Judah

[editor]

I wonder, are all these cute new features the reason that thread pages will not load, and sometimes the entire site freezes up?

No, it's more fundamental than that. But thanks for guessing.

This has been going on for nearly 24 hours on multiple computers, so I know it is not my computer or ISP.

As stated in another thread, if you want me to diagnose the problem you've got to give me more to go on. Fortunately, other HAIFers aren't just complaining, they're working with me to help track down the problem.

I also note that crunch and others are having the same problem.

I noted that, too.

Having neat features on a forum that will not load is akin to having GPS on a car that won't start. Just sayin'...

Again, your Monday morning quarterbacking is way off. But at least others are being helpful. Just sayin'...

[editor]

Que ?? Are these something i have control over or are they bestowed at some point ?

DotCom Donor: none

BonusGroup1: Regular

Are you seeing those on the regular forum pages, or in your profile settings?

Also, I for one have had zero haify loading problems today.

You must be using something other than Internet Exploder. HAIF is tested against Firefox and Safari and experiences no problems at all. Freakin' Microsoft strikes again.

[editor]

I had problems all day using IE 6 at work, especially using the New Posts listing feature. At home, Mozilla Fire Fox seems to work just fine.

New Posts isn't a bug. You just have to tell it to display the list the old way. Click on your name, then My Settings and you'll see at the bottom of the page a place where you can change it to the old method. Just set the "View New Content Method" to "Show me all content that I have not read."

And be sure to click the [save Changes] button to save the setting.

[editor]

User on-line in its current position is pretty distracting when trying to read a user's name.

Can this move to above or below the avatar?

I don't have a user online indicator. Can you post a screen shot for me?

[editor]

Internet Explorer has been putting large amounts of whitespace in posts. Many posts are tens of pages long.

Yeah, that mess started today. It's being discussed here also: http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/index.php?showtopic=21171

Which version of IE are you using, and on which version of Windows?

[Highway6]

Are you seeing those on the regular forum pages, or in your profile settings?

You must be using something other than Internet Exploder. HAIF is tested against Firefox and Safari and experiences no problems at all. Freakin' Microsoft strikes again.

Profile > Previous Fields.

Also.. notice the green vote up button has gone missing.. or least its shrunk.

[editor]

Profile > Previous Fields.

Ah. I see what you're talking about now.

Those fields are only active for certain people. The first one is for people who donated to the fund that helped move us from .info to .com. The other one is the SuperHAIFer designation. You can't change them, so just ignore them.

Also.. notice the green vote up button has gone missing.. or least its shrunk.

On the thread pages or the profile page? I'm still seeing it the same on the thread pages.

[Highway6]

Ah. I see what you're talking about now.

Those fields are only active for certain people. The first one is for people who donated to the fund that helped move us from .info to .com. The other one is the SuperHAIFer designation. You can't change them, so just ignore them.

On the thread pages or the profile page? I'm still seeing it the same on the thread pages.

thread page... seeing a small vertical +- next to the red button... no green button

[JLWM8609]

Editor, I noticed a bug in some posts. The img tag capability isn't working correctly. I tried to post an image the other day and instead of the image, the words "Posted Image" showed up. As a result, I had to post a direct link in lieu of the tags.

[cardy]

IE 8 worked ok though out the upgrade on my end.

Edited July 21, 2009 by cardy

[Highway6]

thread page... seeing a small vertical +- next to the red button... no green button

Back to normal... but now im on my work computer (Xp/Firefox) ..... won't be able to test at home till this evening.

[editor]

Back to normal... but now im on my work computer (Xp/Firefox) ..... won't be able to test at home till this evening.

No IE at work?

[Highway6]

No IE at work?

Yes.. but wouldnt matter seeing as such that i use firefox at home too. Just dont know if i have a different firefox version at home that may have caused the issue i was seeing last night.

[Pumapayam]

And enough people lost their minds I assume, reputations are back in hiding, at least out of sight and mind within the threads.

Edited August 11, 2009 by Pumapayam

[N Judah]

Yeah, that mess started today. It's being discussed here also: http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/index.php?showtopic=21171

Which version of IE are you using, and on which version of Windows?

It was XP on a public computer...and I'm guessing IE 6 or 7. Sorry I can't be more helpful. However, everything seems to be working fine now.

Edited July 21, 2009 by N Judah

[IronTiger]

I couldn't help but notice is that nearly all the people with GeoGroups (though there are a few exceptions) have two blank colons under that. One blank colon has ".committed to HAIF" but the other still sits.

And is HAIF:maps ever going to be fixed?

[editor]

I couldn't help but notice is that nearly all the people with GeoGroups (though there are a few exceptions) have two blank colons under that. One blank colon has ".committed to HAIF" but the other still sits.

And is HAIF:maps ever going to be fixed?

The colons are placeholders for something else that may or may not be coming.

HAIF:maps will probably be back, but not for a little bit. I have some other things to work on first. Integrating it into the new system is considerably different/harder than the old system.

Also, I still haven't decided where to show the map, since people were pretty unhappy about losing 22 pixels at the top of the screen. I'm considering putting it after the first post of each page, or possibly making it super tiny and putting it under the breadcrumb bar.

[ricco67]

The colons are placeholders for something else that may or may not be coming.

HAIF:maps will probably be back, but not for a little bit. I have some other things to work on first. Integrating it into the new system is considerably different/harder than the old system.

Also, I still haven't decided where to show the map, since people were pretty unhappy about losing 22 pixels at the top of the screen. I'm considering putting it after the first post of each page, or possibly making it super tiny and putting it under the breadcrumb bar.

I enjoyed it. Plus I'm sure it helps out the Newbs as well.

Your suggestion is good, though, but I liked the old way.

[IronTiger]

I was in another topic which I started and the post had picked up steam when RedScare pointed out a slight typo I intended to put originally. Horrified, I realized that despite I had been able to edit my first post before and after the first reply, I could no longer edit it! What happened?

[Highway6]

Since the complaints dept is still open.... i dont like the iphone haif interface still.

No full functionality. No "view new". No profile/message view/use/edit.

Haif Now is good.. but only solves half those issues.

Edited August 10, 2009 by Highway6

[IronTiger]

In fact, I'm almost certain now that as soon as one makes a second reply on a thread, BAM! The previous reply you made is no longer editable. I can currently edit the "I was in another topic which I started and..." but when I press "Post"...

...wait, it's still editable for now! I can still foresee this for being a problem when one wants to use their first post as an index for the thread.

Edited August 10, 2009 by IronTiger

[editor]

I was in another topic which I started and the post had picked up steam when RedScare pointed out a slight typo I intended to put originally. Horrified, I realized that despite I had been able to edit my first post before and after the first reply, I could no longer edit it! What happened?

Answer: http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/index.php?showtopic=21258

[editor]

Since the complaints dept is still open.... i dont like the iphone haif interface still.

No full functionality. No "view new". No profile/message view/use/edit.

Haif Now is good.. but only solves half those issues.

Actually, I feel the opposite way -- the new iPhone version is MUCH better than the old one. With the old one you could only read messages, and then only in text as a generic user. With the new one you can log in, view most pictures in threads, start new topics, reply to threads, look at profiles, blogs, galleries, and more. It's really a vast improvement.

No, there is no messenger. I'm not sure why that is.

I didn't realize there's no "View new." Since you can log in, it makes sense that View New should be possible. I'll see if I can add it.

Remember, HAIF Mobile is stripped down because not everyone on a mobile device has a wifi connection. Most people are accessing it at EDGE speeds, with the remainder divided equally between 3G and GPRS. If you have a fat connection for your iPhone, then you can switch over to the full version of HAIF and use all the regular features.

[Highway6]

If you have a fat connection for your iPhone, then you can switch over to the full version of HAIF and use all the regular features.

That would be ideal.. bypassing any mobile version period. That doesn't seem to be an option though. There no 'view full version' button anywhere that I see.