lockmat Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Another rendering: link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 http://www.eekarchitects.com/portfolio/9-transportation-facilities/57-houston-northern-intermodal-facility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 The old Los Angeles bus terminal was like this and it worked well. They gave it to Greyhound and moved to El Monte which is all outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian0123 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 So what are the odds that this place gets Greyhound to finally leave Midtown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 So what are the odds that this place gets Greyhound to finally leave Midtown?with greyhound owning their current facility, moving anywhere will cost them money which will be why they probably remain in midtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Ugh, Metro will never do things right. It still boggles the mind when they still insist to run these trains on grade with the rest of traffic. You would think they would really do studies and consider perhaps Chicago's and New Yorks transportation successes. Oh well, after billions spent and years of headaches from construction and little actual use it just may catch on. "Little actual use"?? Have you ever taken a look at ridership on the Red Line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfre81 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 with greyhound owning their current facility, moving anywhere will cost them money which will be why they probably remain in midtown. Couldn't they sell that property for a good chunk of money though? "Little actual use"?? Have you ever taken a look at ridership on the Red Line? I left a boxing match at the Hilton on Thursday night and caught the last train south. There were probably about 25-30 people on average while I was on it from Main Street Square to the TMC transit center. Mind you, this was at midnight, when downtown is supposedly dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Couldn't they sell that property for a good chunk of money though?and have to purchase in an area with inflated prices? plus have to build a new facility. seems unlikely at least at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian0123 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 and have to purchase in an area with inflated prices? plus have to build a new facility. seems unlikely at least at this point. I was holding out hope based on this from the MetroSolutions site... During earlier discussions, METRO also mentioned private bus companies and AMTRAK might also use this facility. Is that no longer the case? This proposed facility is being designed so that it could accommodate other modes of transportation that could be phased into service, such as commuter rail, private bus carriers, and national passenger rail (AMTRAK). However, these facilities are not included in Phase I, and would not be constructed until funding and environmental clearances are in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfre81 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 and have to purchase in an area with inflated prices? plus have to build a new facility. seems unlikely at least at this point.Actually I was thinking in terms of them moving into the intermodal facility that METRO would be using. Would that not be possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I was holding out hope based on this from the MetroSolutions site... During earlier discussions, METRO also mentioned private bus companies and AMTRAK might also use this facility. Is that no longer the case? mentioned? might? sounds like it was never the case. more importantly the owner of the tracks still has not given a go for METRO to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 "Little actual use"?? Have you ever taken a look at ridership on the Red Line?Yeah, our line gets quite a bit of use. During regular daytime hours it comes every six minutes, and if one is running a couple minutes late you get packed in like sardines, I assure you. As for objective standards, I think I read that ours is the highest ridership per mile for any light rail system.I expect that to fall a bit once the new lines are deployed, but its still going to get a lot of riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Yeah, our line gets quite a bit of use. During regular daytime hours it comes every six minutes, and if one is running a couple minutes late you get packed in like sardines, I assure you. As for objective standards, I think I read that ours is the highest ridership per mile for any light rail system.I expect that to fall a bit once the new lines are deployed, but its still going to get a lot of riders.I don't know. Have you ever been on the Green Line T in Boston? That thing is packed, every train, all day long. It has to have way more ridership than Houston's one line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 2008 Q1 Light Rail Transit Ridership per dayBoston 267,400 10,528/Mi San Fransisco 173,900 2,432Los Angeles 130,900 2,350Philadelphia 116,000 1,933Portland, OR 103,800 2,359San Diego 98,700 1,845St. Louis 67,300 1,923Denver 65,400 1,456Dallas 62,000 1,680Sacramento 52,400 1,139Houston 39,800 2,095San Jose 31,100 4,147Sorry the formatting options suck, or I just don't know how to do tab-cols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 2008 Q1 Light Rail Transit Ridership per dayBoston 267,400 San Fransisco 173,900Los Angeles 130,900Philadelphia 116,000Portland, OR 103,800San Diego 98,700St. Louis 67,300Denver 65,400Dallas 62,000Sacramento 52,400Houston 39,800San Jose 31,100As I said, highest ridership per mile. We have fewer riders than other cities because we only have one line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 As I said, highest ridership per mile. We have fewer riders than other cities because we only have one line.I added ridership per mile to the above posting. Sorry about the formatting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Looking at this: http://en.wikipedia....ms_by_ridership looks to be third by number of boardings per mile, behind Boston and Tampa. Tampa has even fewer miles, just 2.3 miles of track.Note this seems to be Q1 2009 rather than 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfre81 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I expect that to fall a bit once the new lines are deployed, but its still going to get a lot of riders.I don't know, even if the University Line gets held up (no thanks to the NIMBYs) you're still going to have more people being brought into the Red Line corridor which provides the link to major employment areas - Downtown, TMC - plus the Museum District. I don't know that it'll drop necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Looking at this: http://en.wikipedia....ms_by_ridership looks to be third by number of boardings per mile, behind Boston and Tampa. Tampa has even fewer miles, just 2.3 miles of track.Note this seems to be Q1 2009 rather than 2008.I saw those Q1 2009 numbers on wiki. I used Q1 2008 numbers. Not much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 and have to purchase in an area with inflated prices? plus have to build a new facility. seems unlikely at least at this point.The concept is for them to move into the intermodal facility (leased space). No purchase of land, inflated prices or not; no building of a new facility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 duplicate post. sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Actually I was thinking in terms of them moving into the intermodal facility that METRO would be using. Would that not be possible?Not only possible, but could be a good business move, as mentioned above. Greyhound sells some prime Midtown property for a big chunk of change, and leases several bus bays from Metro. Because it would be a METRO facility, security would be provided by METRO as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfre81 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Not only possible, but could be a good business move, as mentioned above. Greyhound sells some prime Midtown property for a big chunk of change, and leases several bus bays from Metro. Because it would be a METRO facility, security would be provided by METRO as well.I figure it would be good for METRO too, since it would provide revenue from the leased bays it otherwise would not get, as well as potentially more use of the light rail from Greyhound passengers. And with the station gone from Midtown, there's nowhere for it to go but up.I think it's an all-win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punx Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well the new intermodal terminal is going to have to wait, for now we have the burnett station, a light rail station with four bus bays.http://metrosolutions.org/posted/1068/Appendix_E_1_.200759.pdfpage 3 from the Suplimental Evironmental Impact Study.Athough they are going to reroute main street, it does look like they are building the station with an eye to the future for the intermodal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 They've re-paved and striped a huge parking lot to the southwest of the Intermodel site. Wonder what that's for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 They've re-paved and striped a huge parking lot to the southwest of the Intermodel site. Wonder what that's for?That's the UHD student lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 They've re-paved and striped a huge parking lot to the southwest of the Intermodel site. Wonder what that's for?This? Looks old, but you say its been repaved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 This? Looks old, but you say its been repaved?Well, not repaved. It was resealed and then restriped. I am looking at it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 The area that is getting the fill sits between Chestnut and Gentry streets, which is east of the Burnett Station site. So, I think something else is going on.We may be able to merge several threads together here.I think this site, that they are working on, is for one the the new Obama Care Death camps. Perhaps we can get Gila Jackson Lee to comment on it since it will be in her district. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Well, not repaved. It was resealed and then restriped. I am looking at it right now.Whichever. After it was resealed and before it was striped, it looked like a lake from my perspective.Still nobody parking there today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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