SMU1213 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, cloud713 said: Honestly, I never even knew the condo/hotel tower was supposed to “twist”.. it just looked like they flipped a parallelogram over for each stack, to mirror the one below it and stagger the angle of the balconies/views. When can Houston start expecting to get some projects like that epic Gang tower? ...50 years? Houston is so far behind in architecture/design, it’s sad, especially after being at the top in the 70s. Once tenants are willing to pay the rents that are necessary to build them. THE RO is getting redesigned right now because the building was overdesigned and they would need rents 30% over market to make the construction numbers work. Companies/people aren't willing to pay that just to be in a pretty building unfortunately. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, SMU1213 said: Once tenants are willing to pay the rents that are necessary to build them. THE RO is getting redesigned right now because the building was overdesigned and they would need rents 30% over market to make the construction numbers work. Companies/people aren't willing to pay that just to be in a pretty building unfortunately. Thats correct. From my own knowledge base you only get the really high-end / super-fine / "epic" projects when they either have an iconic name attached to the project that warrants a particular pricetag / design (example being Frank Gehry who puts titanium on everything and one that hires him knows they have to put that in there initial pricing), real estate starts to crunch up a bit in terms of availability or there is a large stock of "generic" building types that warrants approaching the high end to stand out, and finally when you have a large speculative market with LOTS of $$$$. The only reason we have the buildings we have from the 70's was due to the latter option. Oil Companies with lots and lots of money to drive a high-end speculative market. Do we really want that again folks? That kinda crashed hard the last time. We will get there, but it won't get there quick. We want the first two options to get the fancy stuff, but it takes some leg work to get there first. We are heading in that direction. We have really gotten a glorious amount of different/interesting/necessary projects for Houston. Its not a matter of if anymore, but a matter of when. Edited May 1, 2019 by Luminare 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 4:49 PM, real-k-estate said: Now planned for May 16 What a joke this is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Luminare said: Thats correct. From my own knowledge base you only get the really high-end / super-fine / "epic" projects when they either have an iconic name attached to the project that warrants a particular pricetag / design (example being Frank Gehry who puts titanium on everything and one that hires him knows they have to put that in there initial pricing), real estate starts to crunch up a bit in terms of availability or there is a large stock of "generic" building types that warrants approaching the high end to stand out, and finally when you have a large speculative market with LOTS of $$$$. The only reason we have the buildings we have from the 70's was due to the latter option. Oil Companies with lots and lots of money to drive a high-end speculative market. Do we really want that again folks? That kinda crashed hard the last time. We will get there, but it won't get there quick. We want the first two options to get the fancy stuff, but it takes some leg work to get there first. We are heading in that direction. We have really gotten a glorious amount of different/interesting/necessary projects for Houston. Its not a matter of if anymore, but a matter of when. Thats a good point about “the only reason we have the buildings we have from the ‘70s”.. Speaking of Gehry.. I just got back from DC, and I’m still not sure what to think of his Eisenhower Memorial design. Hopefully the rescheduled meeting for this project won’t be pushed back again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted May 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2019 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TylerHerman13 Posted May 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2019 Fence up on property, trees and grass on property removed, and logo on leasing center. Follow DC Partners (@dcpartnersusa) and The Allen (@residenceattheallen) on Instagram for a Friday announcement! Excited to hear the news as I live right next door. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Well if it proceeds, everyone will have a great view of the flooding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbro Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, mattyt36 said: Well if it proceeds, everyone will have a great view of the flooding. another delay? 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I just checked their twitter and Instagram and they’ve made the “big” announcement but no pictures and no details. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) Never mind. I wish them all the best. Edited May 10, 2019 by H-Town Man 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 10 hours ago, wxman said: I just checked their twitter and Instagram and they’ve made the “big” announcement but no pictures and no details. They just saved a bunch of money on their car insurance by switching to GEICO. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 10 hours ago, houstontexasjack said: They just saved a bunch of money on their car insurance by switching to GEICO. I heard they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Luminare said: I heard they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Joke’s on them, the Best Western is much closer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
por favor gracias Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Luminare said: I heard they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Let's hope that's not what this ends up being. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hindesky Posted May 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) Chainlink and wooden fence surrounds the area, some of it has been graded. Guys were working inside the building and saw GT Leach box trailer on site. All good signs of progress. http://gtleach.com Edited May 12, 2019 by hindesky 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hindesky Posted May 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2019 Signage up along Allen Pkwy and Gilette St. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 I see a rendering on that signage, is it any different from what we’ve seen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, CaptainJilliams said: I see a rendering on that signage, is it any different from what we’ve seen? I'll look at it on Sunday during my ride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, hindesky said: I'll look at it on Sunday during my ride. Thank you. I can’t tell you how disappointed I would be if they tease us with the old rendering on signage and then build something different. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lectro Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Isn’t the new rendering here? http://dcpartnersusa.com/properties/the-allen/ The middle section isn’t at an angle anymore and the roof looks simpler. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Lectro said: Isn’t the new rendering here? http://dcpartnersusa.com/properties/the-allen/ The middle section isn’t at an angle anymore and the roof looks simpler. Ah, now I see it...if this is the redesign it isn't very drastic at all. But I do see what looks like a pedestrian bridge and I thought that was scrapped. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, CaptainJilliams said: Ah, now I see it...if this is the redesign it isn't very drastic at all. But I do see what looks like a pedestrian bridge and I thought that was scrapped. Here's the one from 2017. I don't see that much difference. Closer: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, CaptainJilliams said: Ah, now I see it...if this is the redesign it isn't very drastic at all. But I do see what looks like a pedestrian bridge and I thought that was scrapped. I still think that's the old rendering. If you do the 3D interactive view, you get this view instead (Sorry, I can't remove the overlays). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Just now, Triton said: I still think that's the old rendering. If you do the 3D interactive view, you get this view instead (Sorry, I can't remove the overlays). Darn, thanks for pointing that out. Here's hoping they make minimal changes to what we've already seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Triton said: I still think that's the old rendering. If you do the 3D interactive view, you get this view instead (Sorry, I can't remove the overlays). The blank walls on the parking garage podiums look like Randall Davis's contributions to the project. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, rechlin said: The blank walls on the parking garage podiums look like Randall Davis's contributions to the project. Here's the main website: http://theallendevelopment.com/ This also looks like a new front without the pedestrian bridge. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Response Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) See below. Edited May 19, 2019 by Response 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) - Edited July 12, 2019 by Timoric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hindesky Posted May 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2019 Signage on the fences and a look inside the sales office. 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Response Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) No doubt the debbie downers are going to have a field day tearing into this 'value engineered' design and everything about the current state of Houston architecture. But no matter, it's still a nice building, great height for the area and we could have done a lot worse. Jenga style buildings aren't everything. Edited May 19, 2019 by Response 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Thank you! And there we go, new renderings, and honestly, it's different but it still looks pretty good in my opinion. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lectro Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I like it. Could of been a lot worse. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSirDingle Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Doesn't really look value engineered at all, and overall it looks sleeker. Honestly I like it better than the previous rendering. I'm glad this is being built in the first place, and would of been content with the big tower by itself. The development as a whole is gonna be an anchor for this area, and will greatly expand the ever growing skyline. Looking at the jenga feature of the original render, it really wasn't that noticeable. Hard to tell that there was a jenga feature half the time anyway. Overall, I think the new render is a better choice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxConcrete Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) I count approx 40 floors in the jenga-style design and 33 floors in the sales office advertising board. In both cases I counted one floor for the penthouse, which appears to be as high as 3 regular floors in the jenga design and two regular floors in the sales office design. So assuming the sales office depiction is correct, the height appears to be downsized. Even considering the penthouse and several floors with high ceilings, the sales office design appears to have a height around 400 feet. Edited May 19, 2019 by MaxConcrete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 3 hours ago, hindesky said: Wow, I actually like this a lot more. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I prefer the new design! Looks great 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenOlenska Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, Triton said: Wow, I actually like this a lot more. I agree. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) - Edited July 12, 2019 by Timoric 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 This design looks a lot better. The current term my boss likes to use a lot is "too architecty" which I've come to roughly translate as "this building or design is trying to hard". I would say the previous design was way too "architecty". This seems better fleshed out and knows what it is, and what it wants to be. I also like how it seems to grow bigger as its getting taller instead of the multiple twists and shifts in the previous design which seemed less confident and insecure. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 This building will be about half way up when Texas Tower and Preston Tower downtown are topping out. It’ll be pretty slick to see that many cranes in the downtown area at one time! Maybe my math is fuzzy, but I’m only counting 33 floors. Where are you guys seeing the 40 story figure at? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, wxman said: This building will be about half way up when Texas Tower and Preston Tower downtown are topping out. It’ll be pretty slick to see that many cranes in the downtown area at one time! Maybe my math is fuzzy, but I’m only counting 33 floors. Where are you guys seeing the 40 story figure at? Thats what I counted too. But still love it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I still like it even though I really loved the offset look it had before. I count 33 stories as others have. 40 would have been amazing but glad this project is moving forward and will take up that massive empty plot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 12 hours ago, wxman said: This building will be about half way up when Texas Tower and Preston Tower downtown are topping out. It’ll be pretty slick to see that many cranes in the downtown area at one time! Maybe my math is fuzzy, but I’m only counting 33 floors. Where are you guys seeing the 40 story figure at? The only 40 I see mentioned was a count of the floors in the prior "jenga-style" design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 17 hours ago, Timoric said: My first reaction was: Dallas Feels kind of early-2000's, quasi-Enron. Some of the smaller buildings feel more contemporary but who knows if those are final designs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 i count 33 as well but the top floor of the podium and the penthouse floors look to be double height so this should have the scale of a 35-story tower, give or take. although i still preferred the original jenga-style design, this turned out better than what i was expecting. fences are up so hopefully they break ground soon. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Response Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Even the first floor will have a great view of downtown. 😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Still looks very sleek especially the stuff closer to the ground. I really like that whole liquid metal bubble thing they have going on. Very different for Houston. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Can someone with sharper eyes pick out where the ground level access to the underground parking is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Do we know anything about the office tower? Is all of it expected to go up at the same time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Triton Posted May 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2019 Removed the side arguments. This is an architecture and development forum... no need for so much drama here. Leave that out of here. Thanks. 10 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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