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can't recall the city ever having an anti-littering campaign. I think it's high time we do this. Education is probably the only was to get the message to the litter-bugs.

What?? Somebody doesn't have "Brighten the Corner Where You Are" sung by a bunch of 1970's school kids with guitars forever seared into their minds courtesy of a local Woodsy Owl PSA? That not fair! :P I'm checking YouTube tonight!

Give a hoot - don't pollute!

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I thought the "Don't Mess With Texas" campaign had a significant impact on the city. And yes, I remember, Brighten the Corner Where You Live. Makes me madder that a hornet to see people throw trash out their windows. THere used to be a number to call in license plates, date, time and place of littering and they would get a ticket for it. I need to locate that again.

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Littering is more prevalent in Texas but it is also a common element in lesser developed countries, and in areas like Appalachia.

I teach a cultural landscape course in Florida and when I show students slides of the Texas landscape, there are always comments about the litter. In fact, I now tell them that you can always identify a Texas landscape because roadside beer cans are 30 feet apart.

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THere used to be a number to call in license plates, date, time and place of littering and they would get a ticket for it. I need to locate that again.

I thought there was a number too, but can't find one. There's always the web form, though they get a letter and a trash bag in the mail. Tickets are only issued if an officer witnesses the incident, I think.

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The creeks I am thinking of are generally very silty, so they're similar to the bayous here. They generally aren't used much for recreation either, but I never see garbage floating down them. Maybe the laws are stricter or the enforecement is better in Canada. I know you'd get a pretty steep fine for throwing a bag of trash into the creek.

It sucks if the color of the water leads to a mentality in some people that it is okay to dump trash in it (or throw trash in the streets which will later get washed into it when it rains). Animals still live in silty brown water. If you're right that the mentality is caused by the color of the water, maybe some education would work...

From my experience, Canada takes their landscape very seriously and wouldn't even consider allowing litter to become anybody's habit.

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I thought there was a number too, but can't find one. There's always the web form, though they get a letter and a trash bag in the mail. Tickets are only issued if an officer witnesses the incident, I think.

What they need is a number where you could just text the license number of the car. After a couple of offenses slap them with a serious fine.

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I just realized how so many people throw their cigarettes on the ground around here. While waiting for the Metro Rail home from the Medical Center the other day, I saw like 5 people throw cigarettes onto the street/tracks. If you look closely at most metro rail stations there's a large collection of butts under the rails. At least they are small, but the idea of throwing anything type of garbage the street still makes me mad.

The smokers definitely know people are watching because they were doing it at the crowded metro station, but somehow it seems to be accepted because nobody complained (including me). I probably should have though.

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It's almost like cigarette butts aren't litter to some smokers. I used to have a neighbor that would leave his near his door, and of course they would float over to me all the time. Sweeping them up and putting them in a nice pile in front of the door works sometimes. Some people just don't care, though.

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I just realized how so many people throw their cigarettes on the ground around here. While waiting for the Metro Rail home from the Medical Center the other day, I saw like 5 people throw cigarettes onto the street/tracks. If you look closely at most metro rail stations there's a large collection of butts under the rails. At least they are small, but the idea of throwing anything type of garbage the street still makes me mad.

The smokers definitely know people are watching because they were doing it at the crowded metro station, but somehow it seems to be accepted because nobody complained (including me). I probably should have though.

I wouldn't recommend the confrontation. Smokers can get pretty frisky about their butts. (OMG, it sounded like I was making a pun, and I wasn't...HA!)

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What they need is a number where you could just text the license number of the car. After a couple of offenses slap them with a serious fine.

The only problem with that is it being abused by pranksters. Can't you see some dumb teen repeatedly texting his school principal's license plate number, or a jealous person envying someone's success repeatedly texting the number so they would get a fine?

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I just realized how so many people throw their cigarettes on the ground around here. While waiting for the Metro Rail home from the Medical Center the other day, I saw like 5 people throw cigarettes onto the street/tracks. If you look closely at most metro rail stations there's a large collection of butts under the rails. At least they are small, but the idea of throwing anything type of garbage the street still makes me mad.

The smokers definitely know people are watching because they were doing it at the crowded metro station, but somehow it seems to be accepted because nobody complained (including me). I probably should have though.

I have noticed this for a long time, I started a short topic on it last year. It pisses me off, they should be burned with the butts they toss.

http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/i...showtopic=15386

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:doh: You are not supposed to smoke on the rail platforms or any Metro bus stop at all. I once got off at Preston and was lighting a cig as I was walking off the platform. I was confronted by a Metro cop and nearly ticketed. He was unnecessarity agressive (he was training a rookie). I asked to see the no-smoking sign; it's about the size of a nickle stuck on something as you enter.

We smokers often talk about the lack of receptacles. If they had them, we'd use them. My building does not provide receptacles; they say that would encourage people to smoke. Give me a break. We are encouraged by the sweeper guy to throw them on the ground because that keeps him with a job. Seem backward to me. Wouldn't he be the same guy that would empty the receptacle??

I will admit that I'm guilty of throwing butts out of the window. If my car had an ashtray in my car, I'd use it.

I remember reading something a while back that said the butts were micro litter, whatever that means. I would never think of throwing anything bigger that my butt out the window.

Regarding a snitch hotline, I'm not aware. There is a number to call to report smoking cars, but I don't think that they rolled that out properly. Most don't even know about it. As summer appoaches keep an eye out for smoke billowing from cars and trucks. Hack :doh:

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My car doesn't have an ashtray either, though (in older cars of mine, it was a great change receptacle!) so I guess that's where these come in handy:

http://www.smokeless-ashtray.net/carashtray.html

As for throwing the butts on the ground, it may be micro (like a small plastic wrapper or something), but trash is trash. If there's someone sweeping in a designated area they'll sweep up the bags of chips that was tossed too, but that shouldn't encourage people to litter..

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My car doesn't have an ashtray either, though (in older cars of mine, it was a great change receptacle!) so I guess that's where these come in handy:

http://www.smokeless-ashtray.net/carashtray.html

As for throwing the butts on the ground, it may be micro (like a small plastic wrapper or something), but trash is trash. If there's someone sweeping in a designated area they'll sweep up the bags of chips that was tossed too, but that shouldn't encourage people to litter..

I must have one, I'll order it right now. Is it still okay to ash out of the window? I want to do my part.

Chip bags don't stink when you bring them back to your desk garbage can, butts do. I wish I could kick the habit.

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I always kept a diet coke can (with a little liquid still in it) in a cup holder and used that for butts. Less messy and far less smelly than the ashtray.

Just don't get your drink containers confused!

Did it have to be a diet coke can? That is the method I always use at the beach, but it is generally a beer can. How is your not smoking going?

I ordered two of those ashtrays from Sevfiv's post, one for the car and one for the stoop. I vow to never micro litter again except for areas maintained by sweepers.

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Did it have to be a diet coke can? That is the method I always use at the beach, but it is generally a beer can. How is your not smoking going?

I ordered two of those ashtrays from Sevfiv's post, one for the car and one for the stoop. I vow to never micro litter again except for areas maintained by sweepers.

Not so much as a single, cheatin' drag! Good for you on your no-micro litter vow!

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Not so much as a single, cheatin' drag! Good for you on your no-micro litter vow!

I quit smoking 15 years ago on April 19. Hardest and best thing I ever did! Hang in there, it really does get easier.

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I guess we shouldn't schedule a HAIF happy hour anytime soon. That could blow your progress.

:lol: But I'm drinking as much as ever. Correct, you and Red are bad influences on me. I'll have to rely on the other, nonsmoking haifers to help me stay distracted and inside.

Speaking of litter, some ass-hat dumped 2 old tires in the gutters on my street. Grrr.

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Yes, Houston is one of the most littered cities in America, but what can you expect when everything was built so ugly for so long? What's one more piece of trash in the face of rusty freeway columns, billboards, feeder roads and 1970s apartment complexes? Even in the newer suburbs, like the instaslums along Fry Road north of I-10, litter is bad because of all the cheap new houses and concrete-concrete-concrete-plain beige stucco box strip malls. What beautiful landscape are we trying to protect from litter?

That being said, no matter where I am, litter makes my blood boil.

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This morning, I watched some moron about two cars ahead of me at the light at Holcombe @ Alameda open the driver's side door and literally turn his fast food bag upside down to dump the contents out right on the street (food, napkins, french fry carton, drink, etc...). I snapped. I honked my horn and raised my arms in a "WTF" manner. The dude shut his door, rolled down his window and gave me the finger. So, I rolled down my window and told him he was trash. He then decided to throw another bag out of his car window. When the light turned green, he flew over into my lane and slammed on his breaks and shot me the finger again.

So, I decided to call the city's 3-1-1 line to report this douchebag. I was bumped around on the phone about ten different times before I was finally just lost in the system/hung up on. I texted myself his plates and I am thinking I will do some research and find my own justice.

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This morning, I watched some moron about two cars ahead of me at the light at Holcombe @ Alameda open the driver's side door and literally turn his fast food bag upside down to dump the contents out right on the street (food, napkins, french fry carton, drink, etc...). I snapped. I honked my horn and raised my arms in a "WTF" manner. The dude shut his door, rolled down his window and gave me the finger. So, I rolled down my window and told him he was trash. He then decided to throw another bag out of his car window. When the light turned green, he flew over into my lane and slammed on his breaks and shot me the finger again.

So, I decided to call the city's 3-1-1 line to report this douchebag. I was bumped around on the phone about ten different times before I was finally just lost in the system/hung up on. I texted myself his plates and I am thinking I will do some research and find my own justice.

You can report him to the police for shooting the finger.

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At least send his information to the report a litterer web site. Who knows, even a nasty d-bag may have a huge epiphany/life changing experience when the Don't Mess With Texas trash bag arrives in the mail :P

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Good idea, Sev. I was hoping that the City's 3-1-1 line would have a report a litter bug line. They should add that. The next mayor should add that to her/his platform.

And Emme, I am totally down with that. I was thinking of buying the shoe polish that you can write on car windows with (doesn't cause damage) and finding his car and tagging the windows. Wrapping his yard and hosing it down might be fun too. Maybe we can do it as part of the HAIF happy hour!

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I was at Jack in the box last night waiting on my mini sirloin burgers, and this idiot in front of me dumps trash right out of door. What made things worse, there was a 50 gallon trash can right in front of him. If I didn't have my wife and kids with me I would have done something that probably would land me in jail. The one positive was the oppurtunity to show my kids what not to do with trash.

The city really needs to create a viable process to report, and prosecute these people.

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I was at Jack in the box last night waiting on my mini sirloin burgers, and this idiot in front of me dumps trash right out of door. What made things worse, there was a 50 gallon trash can right in front of him. If I didn't have my wife and kids with me I would have done something that probably would land me in jail. The one positive was the oppurtunity to show my kids what not to do with trash.

The city really needs to create a viable process to report, and prosecute these people.

Back before we all got so gun crazy, I would have gotten out of my car and taken it back to him. Can't do that nowadays. I have an idea, carry a bullhorn in your car. Then you can announce, "Litterer, dirty stinking litter, can walk the five feet to put his trash in the can!" and then drive off really really fast.

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Back before we all got so gun crazy, I would have gotten out of my car and taken it back to him. Can't do that nowadays. I have an idea, carry a bullhorn in your car. Then you can announce, "Litterer, dirty stinking litter, can walk the five feet to put his trash in the can!" and then drive off really really fast.

Maybe it's the quick temper in me, but I don't think I would drive off after using the bull horn, unless he showed his 45. What I should have done, and it just now crossed my mind, was get out of the car, and pick the trash up right in front of him. Of course a guy like that probably has little conscience so what good would it do.

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Back before we all got so gun crazy, I would have gotten out of my car and taken it back to him. Can't do that nowadays. I have an idea, carry a bullhorn in your car. Then you can announce, "Litterer, dirty stinking litter, can walk the five feet to put his trash in the can!" and then drive off really really fast.

I'm still waiting for some crafty inventor to come out with a message board with LEDs that can be pre-programmed with messages to address common behaviors, including aggressive driving, tailgating, littering, use of high beams in the city, turn signals that don't get use, or turn signals that people don't realize they have on. It shouldn't be that difficult or expensive.

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Maybe it's the quick temper in me, but I don't think I would drive off after using the bull horn, unless he showed his 45. What I should have done, and it just now crossed my mind, was get out of the car, and pick the trash up right in front of him. Of course a guy like that probably has little conscience so what good would it do.

If there was anybody in the car with him, especially a girlfriend or significant other, your action might not affect him as much as it would affect her. And she'll affect him.

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Damn all these people littering makes me mad! I know someone here has secret access to look up an address/name from a license plate. Come on, feed the mob. We need some justice. Rolling with toiler paper is ok, but there are better ways to make people mad. Like the time we got about 30 old used tires and put them in someone's yard. That's much more of a pain to deal with. Or we can take his wheels off and hang them from a tree where he can see them, then fill his car with food waste and possums.

I'm like Gary, I get lucky the wife and kid are with me. Even then I'll start yelling out the window at someone. Video games (Twisted Metal 2 mainly) have also altered my thoughts about smashing cars, and I find myself wanting to just ram them, but thankfully I don't follow through.

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If there was anybody in the car with him, especially a girlfriend or significant other, your action might not affect him as much as it would affect her. And she'll affect him.

LOL. That actually sounds pretty effective. Next time, assuming his girlfriend is with him, I'll talk with her about how much better she could do other than dating a slime ball.

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I'm like Gary, I get lucky the wife and kid are with me. Even then I'll start yelling out the window at someone. Video games (Twisted Metal 2 mainly) have also altered my thoughts about smashing cars, and I find myself wanting to just ram them, but thankfully I don't follow through.

Yeah, I can assure you I would have reacted much differently 15 years ago.

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I agree. A program to stop the litter should be started and available on 3-1-1.

But, my cell won't dial 3-1-1. I guess I should call T-Mob.

WE MUST STOP THIS PLIGHT NOW!

You mean blight, don't you?

: :( Nobody likes my bull horn idea. :wacko:

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I agree. A program to stop the litter should be started and available on 3-1-1.

But, my cell won't dial 3-1-1. I guess I should call T-Mob.

WE MUST STOP THIS PLIGHT NOW!

Well, I've been chatting online with T-Mobile and you can only dial 311 in Austin and San Antonio. WTF?

If any of you have the same problem, the long number is 713-837-0311.

sevfiv, I took your advice and bought a couple of these http://www.smokeless-ashtray.net/carashtray.html

I'm very proud to proclaim that I am a reformed micro-litterer.

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LOL. That actually sounds pretty effective. Next time, assuming his girlfriend is with him, I'll talk with her about how much better she could do other than dating a slime ball.

Don't bother chatting with her. Your previous idea about just throwing away his trash would be plenty enough to demonstrate his slimeball qualities. Actions speak louder than words.

...plus, you're less likely to get assaulted.

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Article in today's Chronicle

Litterbugs beware: Other drivers watching you

Anyone reported messing with Texas will get a letter, and a bag for next time

By PEGGY FIKAC

AUSTIN BUREAU

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6537168.html

There's a new website where you can report people who are littering in Texas: http://www.dontmesswithtexas.org/report-a-litterer.php

I like the sound of the system - they send a note and a trash bag to the reported folks.

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