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Wellborn and Harvey Mitchell overpass?

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Unless you avoid the area, the Harvey Mitchell and Wellborn intersection is now under construction in

This Map Shows the intersection before construction began.

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This map shows construction as of today.

The gray areas are active roads. These are driven on.

The blue line is the railroad. This isn't going anywhere.

The green lines are where roads are carved out. They are not paved yet nor accessible.

The black line is roads that are now closed.

The red line is a completed -with concrete- ramp.

The X's are piles of dirt.

See, I had heard a frontage road would parallel Harvey Mitchell and loop under the overpass. That would allow access for N. Dowling Rd. (as seen here, near the white warehouse) to access the road. An example of this loop is here.

Except the packed X looks like it won't happen.

The second X up above is likely to be smoothed out for the temporary road, which already has the railroad gates up. Finally, Wellborn looks like it's just gonna go straight (they even prepared the medians!) but it raises questions of how this is gonna work. How are people going to turn left? Is it gonna be like University and Wellborn? What are your thoughts? Please respond...

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I think it's going to be very similar to the Wellborn - Villa Maria intersection. I just hope they can do it quickly because I have to cross this intersection almost daily.

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Good topic.

I think this intersection will have a lot more going on than the Wellborn/Villa Maria underpass. I'm pretty sure I have read that the project will include N. Dowling (or maybe even Jones-Butler) and provide access across Harvey Mitchell (F.M. 2818).

The Villa Maria interchange is a great improvement for Villa Maria, but completely left Finfeather ease of access out of the equation.

This project can't do that to Dowling or else it is dooming the west side of the tracks to poor access for years to come.

If anyone could find the plans online I would appreciate it. The City of Bryan's website makes maps of projects easy to find. So far I haven't been able to find the same at the CS website.

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Dowling definately needs an easy access onto HMP, I don't know how those people have the patience to wait on all the passing traffic. Especially at about 7:50 in the a.m. So I think I recall a cloverleaf design being mentioned earlier.

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The Villa Maria/Wellborn access is/was completely different than this one, in a couple of respects...

1) It was an underpass, this is an overpass.

2) It was three-way.

3) The residents in the nearby area had plenty of ways to "avoid the area". There isn't a lot of choices for the west-railroaders. Jones-Butler and Rock Prairie are crowded enough.

I made a couple of mistakes on the map:

The Southwest corner of the interchange should have the X where the green line is.

The Northwest corner doesn't have an east-west green line, though the green line west of the tracks is correct.

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I noticed survey sticks near Holleman, hopefully they'll expand it across Harvey Mitchell within the near future.

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Sorry about the bump, but I made an updated copy. Small X's are poles and railroad guards.

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It makes me curious. Jones-Butler Rd. N is now closed from Harvey Mitchell...

...not that it did any help.

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The NW exit is blocked off now. There are detour roads to the north and east.

There is a sign across from N. Dowling Rd. that appears to stay put. Personally, I think they should extend Holleman Rd. to Quail Run Rd., creating an exit path without dooming residents of the south part.

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The entrance to the Woodlands of College Station from Harvey Mitchell is closed (yay!) and the right side of the road is torn up near The Woodlands. Looks like they've done the initial blacktop between the red line and Wellborn Rd.

The crossing plates are in now, but the NW ramp is not closed yet.

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Sorry, in the last post the NW exit was closed. It's been completely stripped now. They still need to remove a hill for the detour road.

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The bases for the other stoplights are in place now, and there is no center lane for the east segment. Especially with that turn there. Yikes! It's old south Texas 6 all over again!

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Not much to say.

The North and East routes don't have turn lanes (until Southwest Pkwy. and Welsh, respectively)

A pit is being dug on the old NW exit

Work is being done on the west-of-the-railroad detour route

Survey sticks are being placed south of Harvey Mitchell (near where Jones-Butler and Dowling plug in to Harvey Mitchell)

Expect to see more soon.

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There is a metal grid going in where the Woodlands of College Station entrance was

They're digging a huge hole for drainage in front of the western half of the temporary RR crossing

Some more dirt piles are piled on the old NE exit

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Said hole has already been filled in.

The initial "sandy" layer is up to the tracks on the east side. I might make another map when something really big happens (construction of another ramp, more paving, closure of the SE or SW ramps)

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I won't be traveling that way as much during the summer so I appreciate the updates. I'm wondering how much will be done before school starts back up.

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I won't be traveling that way as much during the summer so I appreciate the updates. I'm wondering how much will be done before school starts back up.

Thanks! Unfortunately, we may see the detour for a while.

The only unfortunate (well, very unfortunate) thing is there's left hand turn lane on the detour, plus N. Dowling doesn't look like its going to go anywhere, and nothing is done on Holleman at all. Big trouble... :huh:

The lights are up on the wires.

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Sorry for not updating, but everything is taking shape...the tree at the corner of Dowling and FM 2818 is gone, the detour is tarred, the detour entrance near Welsh will briefly feature concrete (look near The Woodlands entrance), the area near the RV park is scraped.

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The detour is road is almost complete. The east transition (near Welsh) will be concrete for a bit, medians for the railroad guards were done today, and there looks to be a yield lane for the concrete Wellborn straightaway to the westbound FM 2818.

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It's woefully late on my part, but the detour is open. Right turn in and right turn out of Jones-Butler south. Very dangerous. There needs to be a right hand turn lane from 2818 to Jones-Butler. And a stoplight at Cain and Wellborn.

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If that map is true, then people living in the SW quadrant is doomed, unless there is an extension to Holleman. Going out and going in, one of which will be difficult.

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If that map is true, then people living in the SW quadrant is doomed, unless there is an extension to Holleman. Going out and going in, one of which will be difficult.

The City of College Station is planning to extend Holleman over to Jones Butler.

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Well, parts of old FM 2818 and Dowling have been stripped. Some rebar appears to have been stuck in the ground near the railroad tracks. It appears that the old crossing at 2818 will be restored to its original, non-plated state sooner rather than later.

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They are continuing to strip the closed part of FM 2818. Rock Prairie's railroad crossing will also be closed soon to eliminate the "low spot" in the crossing, putting a crunch on the Cain crossing.

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- Concrete poles are in place on the west side.

- There's some construction going on west of Jones-Butler: the old road is torn up.

- The original concrete between the tracks is still there, as is the guard rails on the side of the road (east of the crossing)

- Turns out the Rock Prairie area was closed heading EAST. The railroad is there (and low!)

- There needs to be a stoplight at Cain/Navarro and Rock Prairie.

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- Large rebar is on the east side.

- A few more "concrete molds" are in place, some on the east side.

- The entrance to Jones-Butler has a hideous patch in it where it was torn up for presumably piping.

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-There's a sign on the corner of Holleman and Harvey Mitchell advertising office space. Unfortunately, it looks like the extension of Holleman they show will curve around and become Jones-Butler. I wish it would connect to Quail Run instead or something.

-Some more concrete walls are up on the west side

-Part of the frontage road has been blacktopped.

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- The retaining walls are a good five feet or so, and feature images of cowboys.

- A few more pillars are being filled...one is wrapped up, indicating curing concrete. A mold for the "cross-section" that connects the pillars together is also on the scene.

- The metal-and-wood "guard rails" are finally gone.

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Not much...the incline up on the west side appears to be nearly done (but the retaining walls could be higher). From N. Dowling, you can no longer see The Woodlands of College Station.

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A crossbeam mold is in place now on the east side. A few more "rebar skeletons" have been placed, and some older ones have gotten filled in.

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The crossbeam appears to be going well. There are construction workers walking on it now.

Jones-Butler has a better patch now (been there for a few days).

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A retaining wall is beginning to be built for the west side. Not much has happened...nothing major anyway.

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Part of the crossbeam mold has been removed.

The retaining wall has been fixed.

The area leading up to the overpass grade is now almost filled in with dirt.

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The crossbeam mold has been moved and the first crossbeam is complete.

No progress on the east side right now. I don't even see any dirt.

A sign advertising the Holleman extension continues to exist, but I haven't gotten a good look at it.

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Well, the East Side does have dirt, but there's just a strange pile separating the original road from the detour road. But it appears to be moving soon.

West of Jones-Butler seems to be getting slow progress. There appears to be some rebar planted in the road. What's going on? huh.gif

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I still haven't paid attention to the strange sticks, but it appears there's FINALLY progress on the frontage road west of Jones-Butler. It's still not a "road" yet. Also: there's some survey sticks between Welsh and Wellborn, north side.

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The pillars for the ramp going southbound from Harvey Mitchell Parkway are taking shape. One even has the yellow mold on it.

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I also noticed that the ground is being flattened: the southern segment of Wellborn Road and the section of frontage road west of Jones-Butler is taking shape. Also, wooden "clamps" are being installed on the retaining wall.

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The concrete "edge" for the retaining walls on the west side are complete!

The east side retaining wall is starting. One of the "cowboy" plates are put in.

What I'm worried about is that they'll have to close the existing part of Wellborn Road to complete the retaining wall. While they already to have a right-turn yield lane from Wellborn to 2818 (west bound), it's way too close to the railroad for comfort. The left hand turn is already long as it is! I'd hate having to be held up turning from Jones-Butler to 2818 due a long LHTL.

Unless they complete Holleman. From the plan, it looks a gentle curve, which would put it between Quail Run and Jones-Butler, roughly across from the water plant. If they connected it to Quail Run directly, they could eliminate the people turning right from Quail Run to Dowling then turning LEFT on Holleman.

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Am I going insane or has this thread been truncated?

ANYWAY:

Retaining walls on east side are growing.

The mold is still on the West to South exit

The frontage road is slowly starting to take shape

South Wellborn is definitely looking better

Part of Wellborn Rd. south of the area is striped.

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Given that it's only an overpass and noticable things are not worth reporting, I'll only post if something truly new or groundbreaking happens.

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well the second ramp is under construction, didn't anticipate that

I'm trying to get a vision for what this will look like off paper. On the eastern side of Wellborn will that be a raised berm with the ramps, correct?

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Well, in the last week, the crossbeams have been put in. The SW exit looks good. However, to complete the other retaining wall, Wellborn will have to be rerouted.

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