Post Oak Shopping Center Future Redevelopment

[Dream]

Jenni's Noodle House is opening a new restaurant at the corner of Post Oak and Westheimer. We are looking for 3 amazing individuals to work at the counter to take orders, meet great people, and fill up their tip jar. Previous restaurant wait staff experience is a plus but not a must. Applicants must be willing to work full time lunch, dinners, and weekends. Qualities we look for in co-workers are fun individuals, non smoker, Asian food lover, dynamic personality, funny, open minded, and really just people that we want to be around every day.

If you are looking for a job or a better job than you have right now and you think Jenni's Noodle House is right for you then we would like for you to send us a r

[lockmat]

One day this shopping center will be redeveloped, so we may as well start this thread now.

 

My guess is they will hold out until there is very little or no other places to redevelop along Post Oak.

 

As of now, HCAD lists the the property valuation at $101 million. By comparison, an undeveloped block in the heart of downtown is $25 mil. Capitol Tower is listed as $125 mil. 

 

I can only imagine what they'll have to build to meet the land's value. As mentioned in the Galleria Green Space thread I started, I hope it includes a park. My personal dream is a north/south rectangular park abutting Post Oak about the same width as the parking lot, and maybe 1/2 to 3/4 the length, with highrises abutting directly up to a tree-lined walking path that runs along the edge of the park. The car entrances could be via an alley on the east side of the buildings.

 

20 years and another one or two cycles away?

 

 

[ArchFan]

I assume you mean the strip mall on the east side of Post Oak, just north of Westheimer.  Unless it's changed hands while I wasn't paying attention, I assume it is still owned by the Weingarten REIT, along with the property across the street where Sakowitz used to be.  Its interesting how they have kept these properties for so many decades, without developing them with higher density.  While I'm not a big fan of the dedicated bus lanes going in (but I do like the Boulevard Project aside from that), I wonder if it will make some higher-density redevelopment more attractive there. 

Edited June 8, 2018 by ArchFan

[ArchFan]

On a related note, I really think "they" (probably the Uptown TIRZ) should construct some safe ways for people to cross Westheimer between The Galleria and stuff on the north side of Westheimer. It's ridiculous (and quite unsafe) how people feel they have to run for their lives to cross Westheimer and and also navigate across the median landscaping.  The crosswalks at Post Oak and McCue are pretty far apart and many  people don't want to take long detours to use them.   I suppose the most practical solution would be an overhead walkway.  

 

Beyond that, as more development occurs on the other side (east) of 610, the need for safe pedestrian passage to there will only grow.  Currently, I seriously feel that I'm risking my life trying to make that crossing.  As a resident of the area, at least I know what I'm getting into when I cross there.  I worry even more about the out-of-town visitors who have to scurry through that gauntlet of crazy drivers.

Edited June 8, 2018 by ArchFan

[lockmat]

3 hours ago, ArchFan said:

I assume you mean the strip mall on the east side of Post Oak, just north of Westheimer.  Unless it's changed hands while I wasn't paying attention, I assume it is still owned by the Weingarten REIT, along with the property across the street where Sakowitz used to be.  Its interesting how they have kept these properties for so many decades, without developing them with higher density.  While I'm not a big fan of the dedicated bus lanes going in (but I do like the Boulevard Project aside from that), I wonder if it will make some higher-density redevelopment more attractive there. 

 

Its Tanglewood who owns it, I think HCAD records show they’ve owned it for decades.  But yeah you have the right place .

 

http://www.tanglewoodcorp.com/

[Highrise Tower]

Quote

Jim McIngvale, more widely known as Mattress Mack, told radio host Michael Berry this morning on KTRH that Gallery Furniture’s 30,000-sq.-ft. store at 2411 Post Oak Blvd. will close following the end of its lease in a year. “The traffic went down by half because they tore up the road,” said Mack, referring to the construction on the new Uptown BRT that now has the street peppered with blaze orange cones and barricades.

 

http://swamplot.com/gallery-furnitures-post-oak-location-will-close-next-year/2019-01-17/

[Highrise Tower]

On 6/7/2018 at 11:57 AM, lockmat said:

One day this shopping center will be redeveloped, so we may as well start this thread now.

 

I was told Post Oak Shopping Center has been sold. The Container Store to Maggiano's.  A "city within a city" will be built.

 

Can anyone confirm the sale of this shopping center?

[gmac]

According to this listing, not yet it appears.

 

http://evergreentx.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Post-Oak-Site-Plan-181008.pdf

[Houston19514]

16 hours ago, ekdrm2d1 said:

 

I was told Post Oak Shopping Center has been sold. The Container Store to Maggiano's.  A "city within a city" will be built.

 

Can anyone confirm the sale of this shopping center?

 

Sounds exciting. Eventually, this shopping center will surely be redeveloped in a more dense fashion, whether by the current owner or a successor.

 

FWIW, there does not seem to be any transfer on the record so far.

[tigereye]

Kenny & Ziggy’s is relocating to the Luby’s space because Post Oak Shopping Center is being redeveloped. 

 

https://houston.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/08-07-20-kenny-and-ziggys-deli-restaurant-new-location-lubys-cafeteria-1743-post-oak-san-felipe-ziggy-gruber/

[tigereye]

On 8/7/2020 at 9:59 AM, tigereye said:

Kenny & Ziggy’s is relocating to the Luby’s space because Post Oak Shopping Center is being redeveloped. 

 

https://houston.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/08-07-20-kenny-and-ziggys-deli-restaurant-new-location-lubys-cafeteria-1743-post-oak-san-felipe-ziggy-gruber/

Soon this will be moving to the “Going Up” forum. Today’s Chronicle article says this shopping center will be demolished. 

 

https://www.chron.com/entertainment/restaurants-bars/article/Kenny-Ziggy-s-to-move-to-Luby-s-Cafeteria-Post-Oak-15472146.php?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow#photo-16055572

[Justin Welling]

3 hours ago, tigereye said:

article says this shopping center will be demolished

 

I wonder where/if Dicks Sporting Goods and The Container Store will relocate. I know Gallery Furniture was wanting to leave/close anyways and Nieman's Last Call is likely on the way out since Niemans is closing almost all of their Last Call locations. I am excited to hear more in the future. 

[gene]

Dicks could take over the whole right hand side of Lubys where Kenny and Ziggy's will go as that whole side is closed and empty except the furniture store which already has the new location they are just trying to liquidate what is at this location still. 

I think Container Store could fill in MAYBE somewhere in this plaza otherwise maybe rebuild where California Pizza Kitchen is closing or maybe in Uptown Park? (or even in the new build at Aspire? who knows...but so excited to see this all happening...and btw there is another very active thread on this plaza...

moderators maybe merge? 

 

 

[Skyboxdweller]

The retail area beneath the parking garages at Post Oak Central has large vacancies and could be revitalized.  It  would be great to get some restaurants in there and would be a decent location for the educational supplies store, Whole Earth Products and the Container Store.  There should be sufficient parking available. 

 

[mls1202]

Caught this as a throw-away line in yesterday's Houston Chronicle story about Kenny and Ziggy's moving out of their location on Post Oak to the Luby's location further down the street:

"Kenny & Ziggy’s announced on Friday that it will move to the former Luby’s Cafeteria Post Oak space at 1743 Post Oak in early-to-mid-2021. Luby’s did not renew its lease, according to the release.The restaurant's decision to relocate is based on the planned demolition of the strip center at 2327 Post Oak Blvd. where it is currently located, according to the release."

This is the first I've heard of any plan for a new development on the corner of Westheimer and Post Oak.  Any details?

https://www.chron.com/entertainment/restaurants-bars/article/Kenny-Ziggy-s-to-move-to-Luby-s-Cafeteria-Post-Oak-15472146.php?cmpid=trend

[tigereye]

Have been discussing it over in the Points West forum. 
 

 

[mls1202]

Sigh....and here I was thinking I had stumbled on something new and undiscovered.  

 

This must have been how Columbus felt.

[gene]

Oh definitely @Skyboxdweller...good call as i think that might be a cool and interesting fit for Post Oak Central and make that whole development! love their little park btw as my condo is pretty much behind it all!

and dang, i wasn't thinking about Whole Earth Provisions having to move...i PRAY it stays in our area as i do go there often...just wasn't thinking about them moving haha!

love that place.

 

[Skyboxdweller]

I think that Post Oak Central would be a great location for an upscale event space.  The evening and weekend use would complement the office development day use, the park would be a lovely place for a wedding and there could be rooftop bars, terraces on the rooftops of the middle building.  I often walk there and use the space to call my family or read my mail.  The fountain is roughly the size of the one at Lincoln Center in NY and is a great place to cool off and reflect on the day.  I also like the way that the triangular park is offset by the one at the Hilton and taken together is a great public square, although still privately owned. 

[Justin Welling]

No surprise here, but I believe Neiman's Last Call has permanently closed in this shopping center (according to Last Call's website)...I'll try to drive by soon and see to make sure. We all saw this coming due to their financial issues, but good to recognize in terms of the potential redevelopment of the center. 

[Highrise Tower]

Bontanical.

[gene]

hmmm i wonder what this is? a flower shop maybe or something as at first i was thinking it meant freshening up the park space or something but definitely says Interior remodel 

[Houston19514]

On 3/22/2021 at 12:33 PM, gene said:

hmmm i wonder what this is? a flower shop maybe or something as at first i was thinking it meant freshening up the park space or something but definitely says Interior remodel 

CBD retailer?

In any case, it's a little disappointing.  Someone spending 1/2 Million on a renovation suggests the redevelopment may not be happening as soon as we'd hoped.

Edited March 31, 2021 by Houston19514

[gene]

2131-2511 Post Oak Blvd Post Oak Shopping Center 

honestly i am confused as to which thread to put this in since some of this thread also talks about the old Luby's location shopping center, but went to Dick's today on Post Oak and was told that this store is indeed relocating to Meyerland Plaza no later than March 2022! That means with Kenny and Ziggy's moving and Dick's i would think it is inevitable that this plaza closes next year!

 

[Justin Welling]

Jenni's Noodle House will be closing their Post Oak location at the end of the month. 

[gene]

actually really liked that location and do hope they find another home in uptown...and soon! 

but this even more makes me think that this whole area (jenni's noodles to container store) is on its way out and a new development is on it's way! (i wonder if everyone's lease ends by 2021/2022?) 

 

[gene]

On 12/18/2021 at 1:48 PM, Skyboxdweller said:

 It will be great to have the west side of the boulevard fill in if and when this site and the Apache site get developed. The only other major parcel will be the 2 story apartment complex next to Uptown Park that was a condominium  bought out by a developer a few economic cycles ago.  The building the corner of Westheimer and Post Oak could you a redo. It's odd that the east side is still a hodge lodge of an empty lot,  strip malls, small retail and a few high rises , while the west side has been pretty much redeveloped.  

Actually the east side is undergoing major changes already in the works! Starting with the Zadok's awesome new building... Dick's sporting goods is leaving by March as the whole end from Magianno's to Container Store is being cleared out little by little with Kenny and Ziggy's being the first to move to their new location... (although Jeni's Noodles and Neiman Marcus Last Call already closed this year due to upcoming changes)

As far as that crazy building where Ethan Allen used to be, i am just not sure what to think of that place and what in the heck they can put upstairs that would work...although in another thread i mentioned it would be fun to have a Pin Stripes there if they even keep the building...as right now its maybe 1/4 occupied and that has always kind of been the situation it feels like.

any don't even get me started about the west side corner at Post Oak and the freeway called Post Oak Corner haha!!! 👹

[Amlaham]

4 hours ago, gene said:

Dick's sporting goods is leaving by March as the whole end from Magianno's to Container Store is being cleared out little by little with Kenny and Ziggy's being the first to move to their new location... (although Jeni's Noodles and Neiman Marcus Last Call already closed this year due to upcoming changes)

Wait so does this mean something big is going to happen to that giant shopping center?

[swtsig]

30 minutes ago, Amlaham said:

Wait so does this mean something big is going to happen to that giant shopping center?

Yes. The entire site was purchased by an Asian group a couple of years ago IIRC. A major developer/architect were master planning at one point. I don’t think they’re involved anymore but something significant is going to happen on that site over several phases. 

[gene]

Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! exciting stuff!!! 🏆

[Houston19514]

FWIW, HCAD shows the property is owned by UWS Post Oak LLC, which is affiliated with UWS Developers.  (Not real encouraging)

https://uwsdevelopers.com/

 

[Big E]

15 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

FWIW, HCAD shows the property is owned by UWS Post Oak LLC, which is affiliated with UWS Developers.  (Not real encouraging)

https://uwsdevelopers.com/

 

Just to clarify, is that the PNC Plaza site where the high rise is supposedly planned, or the shopping center?

[Houston19514]

2 minutes ago, Big E said:

Just to clarify, is that the PNC Plaza site where the high rise is supposedly planned, or the shopping center?

shopping center

[Skyboxdweller]

The corner site with the pseudo-Mansard would be a great location for an Eatally.  Roof garden bar restaurant. Grab and go on the first floor, stack a couple of parking levels and a few more food display court levels and bring the building out to the sidewalk.

[BEES?!]

On 12/20/2021 at 3:26 PM, swtsig said:

Yes. The entire site was purchased by an Asian group a couple of years ago IIRC. A major developer/architect were master planning at one point. I don’t think they’re involved anymore but something significant is going to happen on that site over several phases. 

I thought I’d heard this, but couldn’t remember where for the life of me.

 

is there a thread on here for that shopping center?

[gene]

44 minutes ago, BEES?! said:

I thought I’d heard this, but couldn’t remember where for the life of me.

 

is there a thread on here for that shopping center?

 

[Urbannizer]

Bumped to Going Up

[Triton]

So exciting! I don't know where my post went on this website but I've been saying this for years. This is an absolutely prime spot for higher density.

The Container Store would definitely need to look for another place though since this is the only one inside the entirety of Beltway 8. It's more of a big box store that I doubt would want to pay the price of a potentially higher end location.

[kennyc05]

What happens to the Starbucks on the corner?

[Amlaham]

6 hours ago, kennyc05 said:

What happens to the Starbucks on the corner?

Since we're throwing around ideas 😂, it would be amazing if Starbucks built a Starbucks Reserve here/in the area. This location is always packed so I know it would do well here. I'm sure everyone already knows what Starbucks Reserve is, but for those who don't, its basically like a MEGA Starbucks. They have "gourmet food," a full bakery, even cocktails/ alcoholic drinks! Theres only 6 in the world, but who knows. 

[arche_757]

^thought that was the new proposed use for this site for a second, and I completely couldn’t place how that area looked like that.

[gene]

On 12/24/2021 at 1:34 AM, kennyc05 said:

What happens to the Starbucks on the corner?

not sure as they just went through an entire inside renovation just a few weeks ago...but with the money they make maybe they don't mind a start over in the next year or two...

(ps...i like the new inside better btw!)

[j_cuevas713]

I thought Post Oak Shopping Center was the one on the corner of San Felipe and Post Oak? The one where the Starbucks is at is on Westheimer and Post Oak. Aren’t these two different centers or are they one massive center? 

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by j_cuevas713

[gene]

Post Oak Plaza is where Luby's was and Post Oak Shopping Center is where Starbucks is

 

[Sunstar]

From what I’ve seen online, this looks like more like a facelift rather than a complete redevelopment. 

[gene]

4 minutes ago, Sunstar said:

From what I’ve seen online, this looks like more like a facelift rather than a complete redevelopment. 

i think you are referring to Post Oak Plaza. see my post above

 

[j_cuevas713]

So do we have any possible renderings? 

[editor]

On 12/24/2021 at 8:45 AM, Amlaham said:

Since we're throwing around ideas 😂, it would be amazing if Starbucks built a Starbucks Reserve here/in the area. This location is always packed so I know it would do well here. I'm sure everyone already knows what Starbucks Reserve is, but for those who don't, its basically like a MEGA Starbucks. They have "gourmet food," a full bakery, even cocktails/ alcoholic drinks! Theres only 6 in the world, but who knows. 

As a point of historical/architectural interest: The Starbucks Reserve in that photo used to be the Crate and Barrel flagship store.  You can still see how the form was a crate shape and a barrel shape, though the Starbucks renovation smoothed out a lot of that.

I know the guy who designed it, and even with all the giant fancy glass towers he's done all over the world, it's still one of his favorite buildings.    The architecture firm is across the street, and he deliberately got a particular office so that he can look down on it while he's working.

Here's what it looked like before Starbucks.  From HAIF's sister site.

[gene]

well guess what...i went to get my bike serviced and lo and behold Dick's Sporting Goods said for now they are NOT moving so we cannot consider the Meyerland store a relocation..

wow...totally different story that what i got from the original guy i spoke to in the bike department months ago...i wonder what is up with this plaza...anyone have the latest?