Hardy Yards Developments

[RedScare 1667]

Look at post #17 on this link.

http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/i...&hl=hardy+yards

Apparently the remediation is making good progress, but it will take 2 years after that to begin construction.

[The Great Hizzy! 21]

FWIW, there is a bit of new housing construction going on west of North Main and north of the proposed Hardy Yard project. Even better is that some of the existing housing stock in that area is being renovated and resold as upgraded housing.

It's kind of like the First Ward affect is moving north and east to a smaller degree.

In this, maybe the market is indeed shifting towards accomodating such a project.

[h-townsfinest 0]

hey u see on the website where they are planning to build a parking garage beneath the park, thats gonna be something different

[DJ V Lawrence 9]

hey u see on the website where they are planning to build a parking garage beneath the park, thats gonna be something different

GREAT for downtown!

[h-townsfinest 0]

heck yea, smart as well, man this city is building like crazy, i say 2 years from now we are gonna be lookin at a new houston, building are going up everywhere across the city

[2112 31]

The 2 cranes are for the new UH-D business college building that is being built on N. Main Street, directly south of this development.

Their IS work going on at Hardy Yards, but it is remediation, in preparation for construction. It looks to be nearly completed.

Just came back from downtown (yea, a had a couple) Anyways, as I was leaving La Carafe, taking my favorite back-street exit-strategy outa' downtown (Travis, under UHD, behind godfathers bail bonds and underneath I-10 elevated), I noticed the 2 huge cranes on the other side of the I-10 bridge. They look like some serious cranes for some serious gourmet structures. I guess that is the UHD expansion. It's looking good. I cant wait for all this to tie into the Hardy Yard project and the eventual Houston multi-modal transit terminal. This is whole area is a diamond in the rough to become a cool extension to downtown.

[scarface 120]

GOOD NEWS everyone!

i was touring the area close to UHD on my lunch hour. Off Burnett and Main (North of I-10), it looks like they've been clearing that lot of land to begin construction. There were construction signs saying: CUSHMAN and WAKEFIELD. I called the number listed at 713-877-1700 and spoke with the broker.

I asked the man for some information regarding the project and he said it is indeed the Hardy Rail Yards development! So it looks like they're moving toward the project alot sooner than we all here expected

Before we know it, this project will be on wheels and we'll be seeing the new development boom just like Victory in Dallas has been experiencing!

Edited March 27, 2006 by scarface

[T 2 THA C 5]

THATS GREAT NEWS NOW IF YOU COULD USE YOUR MAGIC TOUCH AND GET THEM STARTED ON THE INTERMODAL STATION, BECAUSE THE GREYHOUND AND AMTRAK STATIONS ARE A BIT INTIMIDATING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAMILUAR WITH HOUSTON. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM ALL TOGETHER IN A NEW GRAND STATION.

[houstonsemipro 17]

I have a question. Will the Hardy Rail Yard development be a larger scale then Dallas Victory, or vice-versa?

[WesternGulf 20]

I have a question. Will the Hardy Rail Yard development be a larger scale then Dallas Victory, or vice-versa?

No. Victory is 72 acres while Hardy is 50. Plus I do not believe Hardy will not have any sort of hotel space.

Edited March 27, 2006 by WesternGulf

[C2H 18]

No. Victory is 72 acres while Hardy is 50. Plus I do not believe Hardy will not have any sort of hotel space.

someone said that retail isn't apart of the plan either but i'm wondering why in that second rendering, there's people walking around like they're shopping?

[WesternGulf 20]

someone said that retail isn't apart of the plan either but i'm wondering why in that second rendering, there's people walking around like they're shopping?

I read that too. Let's just hope the company has a sense of humor. IMO, it would be quite silly to have this huge swath of land with no sort of amenities to make it a walkable environment. Totally defeating the purpose. The layout of the plan has retail in the center of the development.

[mls1202 437]

Many moons ago before the Great Message Board Wipe, I wrote a post about a flight I took from Ellington on route to Love Field (via IAH). You flew over the Hardy Rail Yard Area and Victory in Dallas. From the air, you got a whole new appreciation for how much they approximate each other in terms of their location to their respective downtowns and their size. Sure, Victory is technically larger, but Hardy has the potential to register as significant an impact.

[C2H 18]

more info on Hardy Rail Yards. not very recent though

http://www.ctchouston.org/information/fact...ardyyards.shtml

Edited March 28, 2006 by C2H

[T 2 THA C 5]

What are the possibilities of this development getting Metro and the city to actually build the Inter-Modal station and commuter lines prefarbly down US 290/ Hempstead. If they would build a commuter line down 290 and have bus tranfsers at the Inter-modal and/or Downt Town that would be good enough to get me out of my car.

Edited March 28, 2006 by T 2 THA C

[Montrose1100 3768]

Nice for that part of town. Alot of hopeful project for Downtown! (Pavillions, The Park, METRO, now this!)

But what about Midtown? will this take any opertunity Midtown might have to become not such a dump?

[UrbaNerd 64]

That's some uber stuff we have going up soon!

[C2H 18]

has anyone else tried calling that number?

[bkjones98 3]

Nice for that part of town. Alot of hopeful project for Downtown! (Pavillions, The Park, METRO, now this!)

But what about Midtown? will this take any opertunity Midtown might have to become not such a dump?

As I understand the plan, the Greyhound station would be moved to the new station. Therefore removing the blight from midtown.

Edited March 29, 2006 by bkjones98

[houstonsemipro 17]

^^ When will this take place, bkjones?

[DJ V Lawrence 9]

As I understand the plan, the Greyhound station would be moved to the new station. Therefore removing the blight from midtown.

Imagine what could be done with that land at the current Greyhound Midtown site. Think it could be something big later on?

[cwrm4 4]

As I understand the plan, the Greyhound station would be moved to the new station. Therefore removing the blight from midtown.

...and shifting it to the Hardy Rail Yards area.

[skwatra 449]

but as a part of a huge development and a nodal transit center, it will be much less of a problem (in theory) then it is now as it stands.

[bkjones98 3]

I can only speculate when the Greyhound station will relocate, but I think we can confidently assume that a move will coincide with the development of the Hardy Yards.

I, like the rest of the Midtown residents, cannot wait for that place to go. I think the owners and residents of 2016 Main will enjoy the first breath of fresh air. The lot across the street used for some rent-a-car place would likely relocate as well. Maybe the old "Town Square" building will make way for further development. I seem to remember a big hospital going up near area of Midtown too. Who knows?

[h-townrep 2]

Hate to make an Atlanta comparison, but this could become Houston's Bucktown, or whatever they call it. I know Houston already has Uptown to fill that role, but why not two?

If you are going to compare it to Atlanta, better compare it to the 17th Street project ? Atlantic Station. Houstons Uptown puts Buckhead to shame. trust me i have lived in and chilled in both. Uptown is way bigger and a lot more buisnesses and nite life, ever since the club scene went down in Atl. Actually it was houston that started this redevelopment stuff back with the rice Lofts and Bayou place.

[houstonsemipro 17]

Thanks, h-townrep. If people just read they find out about Houston. On the Uptown Houston website it states, "Uptown Houston is the size of L.A. and Denver," and I know Atlanta is not the size of L.A.

Link... http://www.uptown-houston.com/about/facts.html

Edited March 30, 2006 by houstonsemipro

[The Great Hizzy! 21]

Actually, DT Atlanta has more Class A office space than DT Los Angeles, but I understand what you mean. Uptown's a big mofo.

Buckhead is indeed smaller than Uptown but it's no small fry either. Kind of dull at times but it has size.

And I'd agree that HY would probably be more like Atlantic Station, if you were to make a comparison between trendy nouveau-urban developments.

[native_Houstonian 64]

any more info on this project?

[bachanon 445]

i noticed cranes over towards the hardy rail yards recently. i was on 59 heading north towards the loop. i don't know of any other development between where i was and downtown. am i correct in thinking that these cranes are at the hardy rail yards?

btw, i pointed them out to my dad, told him about the hardy rail yard project and he remembered having his railroad apprenticeship at that location when he was 16. he is 69 now.

[Houstonian in Iraq 13]

i noticed cranes over towards the hardy rail yards recently. i was on 59 heading north towards the loop. i don't know of any other development between where i was and downtown. am i correct in thinking that these cranes are at the hardy rail yards?

btw, i pointed them out to my dad, told him about the hardy rail yard project and he remembered having his railroad apprenticeship at that location when he was 16. he is 69 now.

I wouldn't be able to tell you if this is the Hardy rail yards or not. Some people see the UHD construction and think its the hardy yards though. I would think if it was the yards that there would of been more hoopla.

Has anyone heard anything lately on the yards?

[bachanon 445]

i think you're right.

[TheNiche 944]

I wouldn't be able to tell you if this is the Hardy rail yards or not. Some people see the UHD construction and think its the hardy yards though. I would think if it was the yards that there would of been more hoopla.

Has anyone heard anything lately on the yards?

You're correct about it being UHD. Hardy Yards is not yet under way.

[JGraspo 1]

Metro pursues land for plan to connect rail and bus lines

Metro authorities are ready to make a deal with Union Pacific for property just north of downtown, hoping to turn a portion of its sprawling rail yard into a central station for Metro buses and trains

Edited May 31, 2006 by JGraspo

[bachanon 445]

Metro's long-term plans also call for a commuter rail line from U.S. 290 and northwest Houston that could terminate at the site, he said.

this wouldn't have anything to do with the controversial toll road ROW cutting through the heights would it? hmmmmm.

[The Great Hizzy! 21]

This isn't a surprising move, as it's been planned for a couple of years. Nevertheless, it's a very encouraging move. The sooner they can actually secure the land, the sooner they can finalize plans to extend the current Red Line north to an intermodal facility--which, in turn, would keep the overall Hardy Yard development buzzing.

[gto250us 12]

I wouldn't be able to tell you if this is the Hardy rail yards or not. Some people see the UHD construction and think its the hardy yards though. I would think if it was the yards that there would of been more hoopla.

Has anyone heard anything lately on the yards?

the last I heard the City is in a pissing match with the developers. The City wants something in return for granting the permits. I think they want low income housing or perhaps its land for city development, I don't know.

[native_Houstonian 64]

the last I heard the City is in a pissing match with the developers. The City wants something in return for granting the permits. I think they want low income housing or perhaps its land for city development, I don't know.

If you don't mind me asking, how did you get this info?

[Trae 217]

Any news on this?

[gto250us 12]

If you don't mind me asking, how did you get this info?

An official who wishes to remain annonymous due to the sensitive nature of the information.

[mrfootball 23]

think they want low income housing or perhaps its land for city development, I don't know.

AS IF...there isn't enough low income housing in this city. There's low income housing ALL around there. EVERYWHERE.

[cosmo 0]

AS IF...there isn't enough low income housing in this city. There's low income housing ALL around there. EVERYWHERE.

I believe many people in this web site and so many countless others in Houston would like to see a dynamic corridor established that would someday join other dynamic corridors and urban areas to create a meaningful pedestrian oriented type city. Some people think that ...''diversity" is a mandated politically correct movement however I see this as a hindrance to constructive development where what is needed is homogeneity of at least income and mentality ...if not culture. I personally do not want to rub elbows with people who are low income, those teens who listen to rap music and call themselves gangsters,who may or may not have mental disorders or people who are substance abusers though I do firmly believe they need our help and love as anyone else. Putting people of dissimilar backgrounds and incomes together in a potentially important and dynamic development , as in the Hardy Rail Yards, is a perfect way to squander one of Houston's few possible meaningful moments of growth in the right direction. For all of those urban planners who disagree please not how large the homogeneous areas around Houston have grown over the past 20 years and imagine what kind of city we would have if so much of that development was in downtown or midtown or even in the area south of Reliant Park but cannot happen because no one , including our greatly ...diverse....city council can convince people or developers that living in Houston would be like living tension free as people live in the suburbs, not having to constantly look over your shoulder at the person who is paralleling your path or by worrying about your children going to a school that will sabotage the child's education and put the child in the path of inner city school violence.

[Guest Plastic]

Wow they're really gonna do this? When will it start and be completed?

Well it's kinda far North to be the central station but it's near Downtown.

Myquestion is hwo are they gonna get people from the place to employment centers. In my concept I had had one central station and 3 adjacent to employment-activity centers. 1 at Bayou Place, 1 at Allen Center, and 1 at The Park. Those are three areas were people work and go alot. Then there's be a monorail circling Downtown connecting all 3 as well as minor spots like The Library, courthouses,St.Joseph's Hospital, and the sports venues.

Alter it a little and people could jump straight from TheHardy Railyard to Allen Center, or The Park to get to work. Maybe we should make the monorail go to The Railyard. Do this and Housotn will be alot more likely to get The Olympics.

[LTAWACS 155]

I believe many people in this web site and so many countless others in Houston would like to see a dynamic corridor established that would someday join other dynamic corridors and urban areas to create a meaningful pedestrian oriented type city. Some people think that ...''diversity" is a mandated politically correct movement however I see this as a hindrance to constructive development where what is needed is homogeneity of at least income and mentality ...if not culture. I personally do not want to rub elbows with people who are low income, those teens who listen to rap music and call themselves gangsters,who may or may not have mental disorders or people who are substance abusers though I do firmly believe they need our help and love as anyone else. Putting people of dissimilar backgrounds and incomes together in a potentially important and dynamic development , as in the Hardy Rail Yards, is a perfect way to squander one of Houston's few possible meaningful moments of growth in the right direction. For all of those urban planners who disagree please not how large the homogeneous areas around Houston have grown over the past 20 years and imagine what kind of city we would have if so much of that development was in downtown or midtown or even in the area south of Reliant Park but cannot happen because no one , including our greatly ...diverse....city council can convince people or developers that living in Houston would be like living tension free as people live in the suburbs, not having to constantly look over your shoulder at the person who is paralleling your path or by worrying about your children going to a school that will sabotage the child's education and put the child in the path of inner city school violence.

That's the longest run-on sentence I've had the pleasure of spotting in a long time.

[gto250us 12]

That's the longest run-on sentence I've had the pleasure of spotting in a long time.

Yeah, Weed will do that to you.

[scarface 120]

i just drove by the site the other day and i saw some tractors and stuff looking like their clearing the land and paving way for the development. It looks to me that some progress is starting to be made. I could be wrong. Has anyone else been by the proposed site?

[Sooner&RiceGrad 2]

Oh my goodness! Thanks for the updates...

[DJ V Lawrence 9]

i just drove by the site the other day and i saw some tractors and stuff looking like their clearing the land and paving way for the development. It looks to me that some progress is starting to be made. I could be wrong. Has anyone else been by the proposed site?

That's pretty crazy! I thought there was going to be a ribbon-cutting ceremony...

[Houstonian in Iraq 13]

That's pretty crazy! I thought there was going to be a ribbon-cutting ceremony...

They cleared out the AstroWorld land without yet committing to build anything. I'll wait till the ribbon cutting ceremony or official announcement before I get my hopes up

[ProHouston 22]

Are we sure the land being cleared isn't the new UHD building?

[Houstonian in Iraq 13]

Are we sure the land being cleared isn't the new UHD building?

I doubt it. The land for the new UHD building is already cleared and is being built. I Believe they were already on the 2nd floor and the parking garage was coming along aswell.