Kinglyam Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The transit station is going up quickly - they've been working away on this. The road widening has not started. Regarding the comment made earlier about "negligible residential amenities", there are tons of restaurants around here as well as a Fiesta store, Walgreens, etc. up on Quitman. The neighborhood just doesn't look like Montrose. I forgot about the Fiesta, thanks for the correction. But I don't think it's going to be enough for the proposed development. With the number of people the rail yards would bring in, it looks too small. And, let's be blunt, Fiesta doesn't appeal to the primary market demographic for the mixed-use development. Fiestas are a mostly blue-collar demographic, while most of the new people coming to the yards are likely to be white-collar. I expect most of the residents of the new development (and surrounding redevelopment) to want a higher-end HEB or something similar. As for restaraunts, other than Tex-Mex and fast food, what's in the area? I've never seen anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hold on a second. Am I understanding correctly? So now we have two separate developments both named "Residences at Hardy Yards" one at Main/Burnett and the other at Hardy/Leona? Or will that simply be the name for all developments on this property? ftp://edrc.houstontx.gov/2015/Applications//2015-0678/SubdivisionPlatPDF_Hardy_Yards_Multifamily_Plat.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hold on a second. Am I understanding correctly? So now we have two separate developments both named "Residences at Hardy Yards" one at Main/Burnett and the other at Hardy/Leona? Or will that simply be the name for all developments on this property? ftp://edrc.houstontx.gov/2015/Applications//2015-0678/SubdivisionPlatPDF_Hardy_Yards_Multifamily_Plat.pdf There will be two separate developments. Residences at Hardy Yards which will be the smaller of the two at 350+ units. And another, that at least to my understanding, is yet to be named and will have 2,000+ units. So far this second development is only being referred to as "Hardy Yards". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hold on a second. Am I understanding correctly? So now we have two separate developments both named "Residences at Hardy Yards" one at Main/Burnett and the other at Hardy/Leona? Or will that simply be the name for all developments on this property? ftp://edrc.houstontx.gov/2015/Applications//2015-0678/SubdivisionPlatPDF_Hardy_Yards_Multifamily_Plat.pdf Also, how can we view the link you've posted without a login? Mind attaching the PDF its self? Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Also, how can we view the link you've posted without a login? Mind attaching the PDF its self? Thanks It's on the next planning commission agenda if you're having trouble viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Also, how can we view the link you've posted without a login? Mind attaching the PDF its self? ThanksYea, can't view it either. Where on the planning commission is this located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Yea, can't view it either. Where on the planning commission is this located?Triton it's on the agenda but you also need to have a login to view it. You can see some detail in the agenda spread sheet but without a login, nothing useful. http://mycity.houstontx.gov/plattrackerreports/rptDraftAgendaItems.aspx page 5 Edited April 14, 2015 by IamHouston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Ya, sorry y'all, it was working when I tested it. Not sure what's going on. Go to page five in IamHouston's link above and scroll all the way right. The link is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Here's a direct link to the pdf (maybe it will work?) ftp://edrc.houstontx.gov/2015/Applications//2015-0678/SubdivisionPlatPDF_Hardy_Yards_Multifamily_Plat.pdf If not I attached the PDF that downloaded Edit:Leona street looks like its going to be a new extension of the short stub east of Hardy st - it's not on Google Maps, but the lot subdivisions are? https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7725784,-95.3537394,17zSubdivisionPlatPDF_Hardy_Yards_Multifamily_Plat.pdf Edited April 14, 2015 by cspwal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hold on a second. Am I understanding correctly? So now we have two separate developments both named "Residences at Hardy Yards" one at Main/Burnett and the other at Hardy/Leona? Or will that simply be the name for all developments on this property? It's just one development beginning now. I see now with matching up the rendering in the HBJ with the plat layout. Clock tower matches up with the Twitter image. The HBJ article is just way off in saying the development will be at "North Main and Burnett" streets. Misleading at best. My bad y'all. It's a smart play to begin the far side of the development first so that there are still options to densify future plans closer to the light rail station if conditions warrant. You really can't do that if you start closest to the station first and build eastward from there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Residence At Hardy Yards by marclongoria, on Flickr 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Those apartments are going to have amazing views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinglyam Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Those apartments are going to have amazing views As well as amazing sounds, at least until they silence the rail crossing at Daly/Trentham, plus whatever new crossings this development creates. There must be 20 trains a day through there, at least. I can't believe they still have to sound the horn for that one little crossing, but go silent when they cross I-45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 As well as amazing sounds, at least until they silence the rail crossing at Daly/Trentham, plus whatever new crossings this development creates. There must be 20 trains a day through there, at least. I can't believe they still have to sound the horn for that one little crossing, but go silent when they cross I-45.Makes complete sense to me. All there is is a simple stop sign at that rail crossing. The abandoned warehouse makes it dangerous because it is difficult to see anything coming from the east. And while it's going over 45, why would it need to blast the horn? It's not like the train is changing lanes on the highway. lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Makes complete sense to me. All there is is a simple stop sign at that rail crossing. The abandoned warehouse makes it dangerous because it is difficult to see anything coming from the east. And while it's going over 45, why would it need to blast the horn? It's not like the train is changing lanes on the highway. lolIn a parallel world... "Ah damnit, the f***ing train cut me off!" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinglyam Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 In a parallel world... "Ah damnit, the f***ing train cut me off!" To listen to some of the "drivers" downtown, that's exactly what the light rail was doing the first couple of year's operation! Triton, I'm a poor judge of speed, admittedly, but I'm pretty sure the trains don't do 45 through there. They appear to be doing 20 or so at best. But, yes, I realize it's only a stop sign. They have to signalize it with drop arms, at least. But one little podunk intersection, surely that's not so hard? For that matter, once the Main-Burnett intersection is complete, would it be reasonable to just abandon that road? It's already gone to heck in a handbasket with the rerouted traffic, and gods know it's not likely to get fixed anytime soon. I imagine the street connectors to downtown that are included with the Hardy developments will include signalized crossings that are paid for by the developer, so they can get that whole line silenced from Maury. On a side note, that old warehouse would make an awesome shell for a commercial redevelopment, perfect for the UHD crowd. Throw in a coffee shop, bar, maybe small food court... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 To listen to some of the "drivers" downtown, that's exactly what the light rail was doing the first couple of year's operation! Triton, I'm a poor judge of speed, admittedly, but I'm pretty sure the trains don't do 45 through there. They appear to be doing 20 or so at best. But, yes, I realize it's only a stop sign. They have to signalize it with drop arms, at least. But one little podunk intersection, surely that's not so hard? For that matter, once the Main-Burnett intersection is complete, would it be reasonable to just abandon that road? It's already gone to heck in a handbasket with the rerouted traffic, and gods know it's not likely to get fixed anytime soon. I imagine the street connectors to downtown that are included with the Hardy developments will include signalized crossings that are paid for by the developer, so they can get that whole line silenced from Maury. On a side note, that old warehouse would make an awesome shell for a commercial redevelopment, perfect for the UHD crowd. Throw in a coffee shop, bar, maybe small food court...Agreed. Hopefully they'll just abandon it and I think that is actually part of the plan. It looks like they plan to have a new road go from the intersection of N Main and Providence St (At UHD) to N Main and Brooks. It would essentially wipe out a lot of the parking but I think the plan is to build a parking garage. Does anyone know of the document I am talking about? May have even been posted in this thread though I don't the parking garage has been publicly released yet. And yes! The road is in absolutely bad shape now because of all the redirected traffic. The pot holes are tire killers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinglyam Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Agreed. Hopefully they'll just abandon it and I think that is actually part of the plan. It looks like they plan to have a new road go from the intersection of N Main and Providence St (At UHD) to N Main and Brooks. It would essentially wipe out a lot of the parking but I think the plan is to build a parking garage. Does anyone know of the document I am talking about? May have even been posted in this thread though I don't the parking garage has been publicly released yet. And yes! The road is in absolutely bad shape now because of all the redirected traffic. The pot holes are tire killers. I haven't seen anything, but I just noticed a thread a little bit down the forum about a residential construction ("The Lofts", so creative) planned for that triangle of land across the tracks from the warehouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Agreed. Hopefully they'll just abandon it and I think that is actually part of the plan. It looks like they plan to have a new road go from the intersection of N Main and Providence St (At UHD) to N Main and Brooks. It would essentially wipe out a lot of the parking but I think the plan is to build a parking garage. Does anyone know of the document I am talking about? May have even been posted in this thread though I don't the parking garage has been publicly released yet. That new roadway could potentially be very interesting for the school. Perhaps integration with the Heights Hike and Bike trail could create a nice bayou-side promenade that could become an iconic image of an expanded future campus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecar(a.f.f.) Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 On a side note, that old warehouse would make an awesome shell for a commercial redevelopment, perfect for the UHD crowd. Throw in a coffee shop, bar, maybe small food court... Yes, it most certainly would.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 New HBJ article from this morning. I don't have a subscription so I can't see the whole thing. http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/print-edition/2015/04/17/from-devastating-hurricane-new-redevelopment.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) If anyone has access to full thing, can you please copy paste it? It would be much appreciated. Edited April 17, 2015 by IamHouston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinglyam Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I suspect here's not a lot more in that article than in this one from Wednesday: http://www.bxtx.com/construction-preview/22439-hardy-yards-springs-back-to-life.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage One 9 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Has anyone thought of how the recently announced North Houston Highway Improvement Program will affect whats trying to be achieved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I don't see much of the freeway improvements impacting this site in a large way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Transit area Hardy Yard by marclongoria, on Flickr Hardy Yard by marclongoria, on Flickr New N Main and Burnett connection. Hardy Yard by marclongoria, on Flickr 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Nice. I noticed in the distance Burnett St looks to be partially paved as 4 lanes already. If they can use a little imagination with this area and integrate it well with the bayou that's a few yards away it could be a cool green space addition. Especially since the city has been down there planting all those new trees and clearing up brush this past month. Would do wonders for that already very popular white oak bike trail. Transit area Hardy Yard by marclongoria, on Flickr Hardy Yard by marclongoria, on Flickr New N Main and Burnett connection. Hardy Yard by marclongoria, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Nice. I noticed in the distance Burnett St looks to be partially paved as 4 lanes already. If they can use a little imagination with this area and integrate it well with the bayou that's a few yards away it could be a cool green space addition. Especially since the city has been down there planting all those new trees and clearing up brush this past month. Would do wonders for that already very popular white oak bike trail. Actually, they built a temporary two lane road... I guess for the residents? I am not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Actually, they built a temporary two lane road... I guess for the residents? I am not sure...Thank goodness! My girlfriend goes to UHD, and we tried to get off at this stop to walk to her car a few weeks ago and there was no way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinglyam Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 A temporary road with all that asphalt seems pretty wasteful, but I suppose that makes sense with what the foreman told me ages ago, that they were going to start the work by redoing the north side of Burnett first. The rain must have really put a crimp in their schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Yea this whole area of A.C. Allen's Landing was a slosh-puddle during the the last few weeks. We just moved a bungalow from the Heights onto a lot we bought a few streets north of Burnett and it was delayed by 6 weeks because of the rain. I can only imagine whats it's done to their schedule. Even Avenue Terrace just up the road on N. Main was pretty much at a stand still for 2 1/2 months, I did notice this week they're getting close to pouring the foundation though. A temporary road with all that asphalt seems pretty wasteful, but I suppose that makes sense with what the foreman told me ages ago, that they were going to start the work by redoing the north side of Burnett first. The rain must have really put a crimp in their schedule. Edited April 30, 2015 by IamHouston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Asphalt is cheap and almost 100% reusable so it's not that bad of a loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 ^^^ nice illustrations triton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinglyam Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 They've torn up the road and are working on the subgrade on the north side of Burnett, now. The project manager says about 3-4 weeks (weather permitting, of course) for that side of the road to be finished. Looks like they're not dropping the grade like the foreman told me a while back. That roller-coaster ride they put at the new Main-Burnett intersection gives them all the grade change they need. I don't want to think what that intersection is going to be like during a toad-strangler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Quick time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinglyam Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Has anyone thought of how the recently announced North Houston Highway Improvement Program will affect whats trying to be achieved? I didn't realize until today that they were planning to reroute the spaghetti bowl to north of UHD. Right now, the plans show it going along the south side of the UPRR track, through UHD's surface lot off Daly, with an entirely elevated structure.It will probably cut the value of any residential planned for the south side of the yards, since they'll have that massive freeway right outside the 3rd floor, but overall I doubt would have a huge impact on the whole project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) I didn't realize until today that they were planning to reroute the spaghetti bowl to north of UHD. Right now, the plans show it going along the south side of the UPRR track, through UHD's surface lot off Daly, with an entirely elevated structure.It will probably cut the value of any residential planned for the south side of the yards, since they'll have that massive freeway right outside the 3rd floor, but overall I doubt would have a huge impact on the whole project. I didn't realize there was any residential being planned on the south side of the yards other than maybe a small area off Conti St that I thought had fallen through well over a year ago but I haven't gone by back there in a while. Otherwise I don't see it affecting the area very much at all and if anything maybe giving it additional visibility. If anything I think redesigning the clock tower they're putting into the residences should be elevated even higher to make it easily visible to those driving by to see the time. Could be our own Watchtower clock like the one in NYC when you're leaving Manhattan and driving to Brooklyn over the Brooklyn Bridge. Obviously that one is digital and pretty much an american landmark. But it would be cool none the less.This is Texas doggone it! Make it bigger or we can't be better. Edited June 2, 2015 by IamHouston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanbergeron83 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 What was being planned off Conti St over a year ago?I didn't realize there was any residential being planned on the south side of the yards other than maybe a small area off Conti St that I thought had fallen through well over a year ago but I haven't gone by back there in a while. Otherwise I don't see it affecting the area very much at all and if anything maybe giving it additional visibility. If anything I think redesigning the clock tower they're putting into the residences should be elevated even higher to make it easily visible to those driving by to see the time. Could be our own Watchtower clock like the one in NYC when you're leaving Manhattan and driving to Brooklyn over the Brooklyn Bridge. Obviously that one is digital and pretty much an american landmark. But it would be cool none the less.This is Texas doggone it! Make it bigger or we can't be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 What was being planned off Conti St over a year ago? Well I want to say it was originally planned about 3 years ago and for some reason or another the construction never got off the ground, but it was a small gated townhome community. Maybe 6-12 homes. I don't remember to be exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinglyam Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I didn't realize there was any residential being planned on the south side of the yards other than maybe a small area off Conti St that I thought had fallen through well over a year ago but I haven't gone by back there in a while. Otherwise I don't see it affecting the area very much at all and if anything maybe giving it additional visibility. If anything I think redesigning the clock tower they're putting into the residences should be elevated even higher to make it easily visible to those driving by to see the time. Could be our own Watchtower clock like the one in NYC when you're leaving Manhattan and driving to Brooklyn over the Brooklyn Bridge. Obviously that one is digital and pretty much an american landmark. But it would be cool none the less.This is Texas doggone it! Make it bigger or we can't be better. It's mixed use, so unless they build it all office on that side (which is possible, of course), there would be some residential. I've not seen any detailed layouts discussing where things are supposed to go in the development, only sketches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I hope this is a boost for the site since there will be more visibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Roads are going in.... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The sheer amount of space and potential in Houston is staggering. .there are still two others area close to downtown that you could still put massive projects in 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The KBR sight I was just at yesterday and was thinking you could easy but a city Centre type place on the size of that land 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog08 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Hopefully next cycle as Midtown and Montrose become too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) huh? oh, the KBR site? in my own fantasy world that would become the location of our new theme park. its a much more central/better location than having it way out in the boonies in New Caney.. plus, how cool would it be to ride a roller coaster over the bayou? Edited June 10, 2015 by cloud713 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I like that idea cloud. Another one would be that little peninsula made by Turkey Bend. I would cut off that little strip making it an island and have the theme park out there completely surrounded by the bayou. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTHONYHTOWN Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 or even possibly that idea floating around of the water hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHouston Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Anyone ever used the city's plat mapping website? It's pretty cool. It maps out all the applications and those that have been approved. Sorry if this is old news. It's new to me so I enjoyed playing around with it. See example below. Edited June 12, 2015 by IamHouston 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Cool what the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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