Guest danax Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 This tower is part of HP. The middle block, I think. It looks like only 8 stories in this model from their website, while the HBJ article above says 9. They both state 200K sq ft of office above floors 1 and 2 of retail with the 3rd floor being entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 It looks like only 8 stories in this model from their website, while the HBJ article above says 9. They both state 200K sq ft of office above floors 1 and 2 of retail with the 3rd floor being entertainment. Not sure what the final version will be, but originally, the office building was going to have 8 floors of office space above the 3 floors of retail for a total of 11 floors above ground. I am assuming that the 37,000 square foot lease for the medical office would be in the tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyB Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Construction Photo update 06.08.07 Great picture! Man, I'm so regretting not checking out the Humble Tower apts now, instead of moving to Houston House. But as long as our building holds up, I guess it will still be "close enough" to HP, so I'll stick around for the cheap rent and great view. I doubt Houston House will be sold anytime soon, and surely they won't raise the rent, seeing as how it seems half empty anyways. Now, if we can just keep the tenants from demolishing the place with their cars... I can't wait! I hope HP has some worthwhile shops. I don't drive much, so some decent shops within a few blocks of Houston House would be GREAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) Comparing that wood model to the original renederings is depressing. Seems so much smaller with the diminished scope and fewer towers.I'm guessing theres no plans to attach HP to the tunnel system, right ? Is this good ? I know you're trying to start a culture of street shopping instead of mole shopping... but the entire 3 blocks is street retail... wouldn't it be a good thing to have a link to the tunnels to draw people out (nearest connection would be First Tower garage) ?Also, from the picture.. they've started structure on the lower block, no big amount of excavation needed since that block is only 3 levels. The middle block looks like they are excavating somewhat since thats where the tower will be but the wood model shows it about 10 stories, so obviously ya dont have to dig down too far.I guess what strikes me is there is no underground parking planned ? I didnt realize this.I know the residential component was canned for the amount of underground parking that would be needed.. but I didnt reazlize they werent including any now.... well, i don't know that for sure, but that is what the photo suggests to me... so far. Edited June 13, 2007 by Highway6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 No plans that I know of to connect to the tunnel system... and I hope they don't! We need less tunnels downtown... not more! Tunnels just take away from the street life. As for parking, they will be leasing a parking garage next to HP so people can park there... correct?Correct on the leased parking garage. I don't think there is any underground parking planned. It's all in the parking garage on Main between Polk and Clay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I disagree, if want easier access to and from the tunnels, why don't you just have a connections from the surface of Discovery Green on the surface and the garage?If Discovery Green were in the middle of downtown and in the middle of the tunnel system, I would defin. want some direct connection. The Park is on the periphery of where people work though and would be on the periphery of the tunnel system, if added, so you'd be adding tunnel specifically to keep people underground just to get to the park... wouldnt quite serve the same purpose as having a activitynode in the middle of the existing tunnel system or in the middle of where the people work.Also The tunnel stops at Houston Center though... so for it to go to Discovery Green, the new Park tower would first have to decide they want tunnel access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) Also The tunnel stops at Houston Center though... so for it to go to Discovery Green, the new Park tower would first have to decide they want tunnel access. Crescent & Finger want a skywalk. The theory is that the suits that will live/shop there don't like walking outside in the heat, wind, and occasional rain, and that it will indeed keep them from walking across the street for many of their shopping/dining experiences. Edited June 13, 2007 by TheNiche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Why does it say that completion will be in October? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Why does it say that completion will be in October?Why does what say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 The Houston Pavilions, bounded by Dallas, Polk, Main and Caroline, is under construction and expected to be completed in October.http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories...63&hbx=e_du Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Just another incompetent journalist. ;-) Technically correct. They just forgot to say which October ;-) (It's supposed to be completed in October 2008) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stjnky Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 On this interactive map of the system...it shows all the access points. It's showing stairs, and stairs alone, where the tunnel crosses under Main between Walker and Mckinney. Most other acceess points are shown in the center of blocks and are more obviously associated with buildings... so I guess this could be it.Yep, on Travis at McKinney (next to the door for the Jason's Deli), there's a door to a stairway directly to the tunnel system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Crescent & Finger want a skywalk. The theory is that the suits that will live/shop there don't like walking outside in the heat, wind, and occasional rain, and that it will indeed keep them from walking across the street for many of their shopping/dining experiences. Wouldn't it make more sense to connect a tunnel through basement of the Howell Building? That is where one leg of the system currently ends. It looks like a skywalk would have to be through the First City Garage, which isn't that nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 It looks like a skywalk would have to be through the First City Garage, which isn't that nice.No. Park Tower to Park Shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm91 Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 i havent been able to find how tall pavillions are going to be. can someone let me know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 They are really coming along on the southern/eastern most block, closest to the Toyota Center... I drove by today and they were working on the second floor of part of the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm91 Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 anyone know why emporis is saying that houston pavillions were never built? even though they are being built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 anyone know why emporis is saying that houston pavillions were never built? even though they are being built. Two of the three larger towers which were originally planned were cancelled. The only relatively 'substantial' one, though scaled down was kept and that is shown. I'm not certain why the dates are incorrect though... but that's what you get when most of the other editors aren't even up on the projects in the area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxDave Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 (edited) Houston Pavilions should be stable enough to stand on its own, wherever people come fromI think you have convinced me. I thought the tunnels were necessary to draw in customers, But I think you are right, people want something unique & different, they don't want to be immediately sucked into a profile.They need to be schmoozed first Edited June 24, 2007 by TxDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Nevetheless, I wouldn't at all be surprised if the tunnels found their way to the Pavilliions, especially if, for example, the Sakowitz Building is finally redeveloped. While I agree with Red that it's not necessary, I often remind myself that this is Houston, and folks don't do things the ordinary, old fashion by-the-book way. It grates, it astounds and yet it also surprises in some good ways at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxDave Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I agree with Red too - the tunnels are not neessary but impressive.But for anyone planning Pavilions, I would like as many connections as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgriff Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 This tunneling subject could easily be it's own thread...modsCorrect... Sorry for getting off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Houston Pavilions has a webcam on their site!Houston PaviionsDiscovery Green will have a webcam soon as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 (edited) Houston Pavilions has a webcam on their site!Houston PaviionsDiscovery Green will have a webcam soon as well.Sweet !!I know I've asked this before.. but i still don't get it... how can they have each person who views it able to control the camera ?If several of us all hop on the same time.. it is like remote wars.. I will I just see what one of you is controlling ?Anwyays.. thanks for the linkEDIT : Nevermind.. i see. This one has a 5 minute timer per person. I'm currently watching someone else control it and zooming in on windows. Pretty neat stuff. Edited July 2, 2007 by Highway6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 That's a great tool! Lots of nice views from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolie Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 $3000 for the camera and $300/mo for webhosting... ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 If anybody has a Mac you might want to download SlothCam, my dashboard webcam widget so you can watch some of these webcams in your dashboard. This is the best Houston webcam I've found so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 This is great, I love webcams and now I can watch the Pavilions progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban909 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 yeah that camera is sweeet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I like that camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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