CasaNova Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Hey guys, pardon me for not knowing more, and maybe some of you can clear this up for me. Is there still more changes coming to the House of Blues. I mean judging by the latest pictures HOB looks nothing like the renderings. There has got to be a lot more to this, there doesn't seem to be enough see through glass/window. Please tell me that this is not going to resemble anything close to the final product. If so I will be greatly disappointed. Can somebody who knows the scoop, tell me otherwise.I couldn't upload the pictures, but if you look at the latest constuctions pics out on there website and compare it to the rendering, they look nothing alike. I understand that renderings are just that but jeez! Can some one who is savy with uploads do a side by side comparison of what I am talking about.Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 There has got to be a lot more to this, there doesn't seem to be enough see through glass/window.it's a multilevel concert venue. not sure windows would improvement the concert experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Hey guys, pardon me for not knowing more, and maybe some of you can clear this up for me. Is there still more changes coming to the House of Blues. I mean judging by the latest pictures HOB looks nothing like the renderings. There has got to be a lot more to this, there doesn't seem to be enough see through glass/window. Please tell me that this is not going to resemble anything close to the final product. If so I will be greatly disappointed. Can somebody who knows the scoop, tell me otherwise.I couldn't upload the pictures, but if you look at the latest constuctions pics out on there website and compare it to the rendering, they look nothing alike. I understand that renderings are just that but jeez! Can some one who is savy with uploads do a side by side comparison of what I am talking about.Thanks!I am sure it's going to look close to if not identical to the renderings on HP's website. The rendering doesn't show any windows... it looks like there are windows but I don't actually think there are. What you see now will probably be covered up over the next few months with stuff to make it look like the renderings. Of course I don't know for sure, just taking a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Actually, nova is right. Unless they make a lot of changes, it looks nothing like the renderings. Looks like a tin box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Actually, nova is right. Unless they make a lot of changes, it looks nothing like the renderings. Looks like a tin box My thoughts was that what you see in the rendering will go around the "tin box" somehow. I could be wrong of course. It's House or Blues... it's going to look good... they all do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2H Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 My thoughts was that what you see in the rendering will go around the "tin box" somehow. I could be wrong of course. It's House or Blues... it's going to look good... they all do. I agree, i think the exterior portion will probably be installed last. Maybe that's me being hopeful that the final design will turn out to be like what's in the renderings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Actually, nova is right. Unless they make a lot of changes, it looks nothing like the renderings. Looks like a tin boxyep, it's kinda hard to add the underground parking as depicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 yep, it's kinda hard to add the underground parking as depicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelvetJ Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 It's House or Blues... it's going to look good... they all do.But this is Houston 2008. There is very much a possibility ours could break that tradition because doing so would be cheaper. Never underestimate the mediocre underachieving tone that is set in current day Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 But this is Houston 2008. There is very much a possibility ours could break that tradition because doing so would be cheaper. Never underestimate the mediocre underachieving tone that is set in current day Houston. Wow... you are definitely one of those "the glass is half empty" types of individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstrosFreak Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 But this is Houston 2008. There is very much a possibility ours could break that tradition because doing so would be cheaper. Never underestimate the mediocre underachieving tone that is set in current day Houston.Geez...What a downer. What underachieving tone are you referring to anyway? Compared to many other cities around the country, Houston's doing very very well in growth and project completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxDave Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Actually, nova is right. Unless they make a lot of changes, it looks nothing like the renderings. Looks like a tin boxI am not familiar with all of the HOB locations, but many look like a "tin box" shack - especially its prime location on Sunset in LA. That look reinforces the HOB brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Geez...What a downer. What underachieving tone are you referring to anyway? Compared to many other cities around the country, Houston's doing very very well in growth and project completion.Yeah, but I think he was talking about the quality of local architecture, not local economic growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2H Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 VelvetJ speaks the truth..... UNFORTUNATELY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 No he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelvetJ Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Wow... you are definitely one of those "the glass is half empty" types of individuals. Mostly on this particular website. That's my role here. Believe it or not, I think it's needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livincinco Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 I am not familiar with all of the HOB locations, but many look like a "tin box" shack - especially its prime location on Sunset in LA. That look reinforces the HOB brand. HOB Chicago - HOB Houston I'm thinking that what we see is what we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternGulf Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Mostly on this particular website. That's my role here. Believe it or not, I think it's needed. That should be a sig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 dang, that one in Chicago is sweet. But look at our a little closer. Those four small square pieces on the corner. I wonder if that's where the sign is gonna go??? I'm thinkin they're not completely done, but for the most part, yeah. sad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelvetJ Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Yeah, but I think he was talking about the quality of local architecture, not local economic growth.That's exactly what I was referring to. It is no secret on this site I have been disappointed with the architectural designs chosen for projects in Houston over the past say 10-15 years. For every 2727 Kirby, and Main Place, there are too many other current day projects that could have been so much better.Maybe what I said was a bit harsh....but was indeed rooted in truth, imo. Sometimes quality designs in relatively small projects like the House of Blues on a consistent basis, can change the architectural tones in a city. Many times architectural designs are chosen to fit in with it's surroundings, but when the surrounding architecture is mediocre, the chances of new buildings having a mediocre quality increases.When the initial renderings of The Houston Pavillion, and Houston's House of Blues were released, I was very excited primarily because of the design. It had the type of design that can really catch people's eye and bring them in. The design had the potential to make the area appear vibrant and exciting, even if it wasn't. So when I saw how it appears to actually be turning out, I was a bit disappointed and quite frankly, let down. Here is yet another project in Houston that appears to have taken on a mediocre quality, resulting in my lashing out.Though I mentioned our HOB could break the tradition of them looking good, I know there is very much a chance it will not break that tradition. I hope the HOB turns out fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elecpharm Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 House of Blues Houston by Gensler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 House of Blues Houston by GenslerThose are old renderings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Those are old renderings.Actually, they aren't. I remember seeing those. The one you posted still has the underground parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Mostly on this particular website. That's my role here. Believe it or not, I think it's needed. You're not the only one that feels that way. Most new architecture in Houston seems to be sub-par in quality, and not a lot of people appear to care much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Examples.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Examples....Competent, but certainly won't be making it into any architecture books: Hobby Center, cathedral, Beck, Reliant HP, downtown Hilton.Truly painfully bad: Civil Courts and the architecturally significant parking garage. But we digress from the topic at hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalparadise Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) But this is Houston 2008. There is very much a possibility ours could break that tradition because doing so would be cheaper. Never underestimate the mediocre underachieving tone that is set in current day Houston.Yeah, Houston's House of Blues is looking more like House of Snooze or House of Blows, architecturally.BTW -- the "signature location" in LA on Sunset does NOT look like a tin box. It looks like a Little Woodrow's or some kind of tiny Cajun shack. You go in early and it's just a small room with a bar, with a curious seam running across the floor. Then, at show time, the whole upstairs swings open on hydraulics, exposing the stage and seating/dancing areas. The "tiny shack" you were just in has instantly become the balcony for a 1000-seat show club. It's very cool to see it happen.I'll bet Houston's doesn't do that. I'll also bet the exterior will remain as you see it now, albeit with a neon sign, so people wont confuse it with a parking garage, storage units or AT&T building. Edited July 6, 2008 by dalparadise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totheskies Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Yeah, Houston's House of Blues is looking more like House of Snooze or House of Blows, architecturally.BTW -- the "signature location" in LA on Sunset does NOT look like a tin box. It looks like a Little Woodrow's or some kind of tiny Cajun shack. You go in early and it's just a small room with a bar, with a curious seam running across the floor. Then, at show time, the whole upstairs swings open on hydraulics, exposing the stage and seating/dancing areas. The "tiny shack" you were just in has instantly become the balcony for a 1000-seat show club. It's very cool to see it happen.I'll bet Houston's doesn't do that. I'll also bet the exterior will remain as you see it now, albeit with a neon sign, so people wont confuse it with a parking garage, storage units or AT&T building.OMG LOL WTF!!!!You people crack me up... SERIOUSLY. Stop playing the "woe is me" card for Houston. This city has got some phenomenal designs... I have no problem with HOB, as I haven't seen the inside yet, but I'm not going to pass judgement on it before it even has a chance. Some of you heifas are so dissatisfied with this city... maybe you should just move somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Actually, they aren't. I remember seeing those. The one you posted still has the underground parking. soo are thse old or new renderings... (hoping these are old) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 New and final ones. Doesn't look that bad to me, but people complain for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 New and final ones. Doesn't look that bad to me, but people complain for anything.Nah, people see the ROW and know that there's a higher standard, as opposed to stackin' em' deep and selling 'em cheap. I've been to a few different HOBs for shows, and I've driven past ours at least once a week for the past 6 months of building. There ain't no magic stage. Move around the country, or the world, a little, and you will quickly see why some of us are sick of apologizing for crap design in a city of this size and importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 New and final ones. Doesn't look that bad to me, but people complain for anything. your right ,it could be worse and maybe with a little polish it wont look half-bad(to me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mls1202 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I may be the exception, but I think the version shown in the original rendering exhibits an unheard-of level of suckitude! The blue "fanfare" or whatever it purports to be is absolutely horrendous. It reminds me of everything that is bad with the Marq-E center. I would prefer the attempted industrial design of the current rendering anyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I think more to the point is that it is clear that asthetics is subjective and the more one group demands to be pleased in one fashion, another groups revolts against them.It's kind of like politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I think more to the point is that it is clear that asthetics is subjective and the more one group demands to be pleased in one fashion, another groups revolts against them.It's kind of like politics.To a degree, yes. But just saying that aesthetics is subjective can amount to throwing up one's arms and refusing to admit that anything can be good or bad and that everything is equal and that we oughtn't therefore make any judgments. Some buildings do stand the test of time and are recognized as great or at least good. This is (nominally at least) an architecture board. We should be making those assessments and arguing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) We should be making those assessments and arguing them.No we shouldn't. Edited July 8, 2008 by memebag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonfella Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 House of Blues Houston by GenslerI don't think I will put a lot of stock in this article that spells Dining with two n's and mentions Carolina Street instead of Caroline. Something up with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I don't think I will put a lot of stock in this article that spells Dining with two n's and mentions Carolina Street instead of Caroline. Something up with this.Take that up with the House of Blues. It is their website, and their renderings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livincinco Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I don't think I will put a lot of stock in this article that spells Dining with two n's and mentions Carolina Street instead of Caroline. Something up with this.Sounds like wishful thinking. The renderings on the site look a lot like the current state of the actual building. Not sure why it's so hard to believe that they are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 If that's the final design, I'm down. It's not out of this world, but it seems pretty obvious they're going for the warehouse/urban look and if that's true, they succeeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livincinco Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 If that's the final design, I'm down. It's not out of this world, but it seems pretty obvious they're going for the warehouse/urban look and if that's true, they succeeded.One thing that no one has mentioned so far. HOB was sold to Live Nation in 2006. I'm guessing that the scaled back design probably has a lot more to do with the change in ownership than any particular disrespect for Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 One thing that no one has mentioned so far. HOB was sold to Live Nation in 2006. I'm guessing that the scaled back design probably has a lot more to do with the change in ownership than any particular disrespect for Houston.That's interesting. I knew that Live Nation owned/presented the events, but I had no idea they were in the business of actually owning and operating the venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 The House of Blues looks like the best part of this entire project. The office "lofts" are blah. The rest of the shopping arcade is dull. So, with a low bar set, the HOB comes out on top... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livincinco Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 The House of Blues looks like the best part of this entire project. The office "lofts" are blah. The rest of the shopping arcade is dull. So, with a low bar set, the HOB comes out on top...I know that HOB has changed from the original renderings, but I thought that the rest of the project was being executed as planned. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 The House of Blues looks like the best part of this entire project. The office "lofts" are blah. The rest of the shopping arcade is dull. So, with a low bar set, the HOB comes out on top...amen.i just find it hard to believe that this was the best the developer could come up with on 3 prime blocks of downtown space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I think I'll hold my comments until the construction is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Two new tenants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtownuser Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Two new tenants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 what is "the office"?this maybe? http://houston.citysearch.com/profile/46292051 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Im not saying its badBut most of the retail is restaurants and barsPerhaps they should name it to the Houston Food Courtjust playing,but you get my point...I wish more stores would be tenants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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