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I'm taking one of my girlfriends there after the Ottmar Liebert concert on the 8th. I'm sure she'll love it.

Uh... ? Anyway. The bartender at the HOB says that they are still working out their kinks. We'll see.

I do hope they will sell a Metro Bus Stop Action Playset. Complete with a homeless bum, litter, and stain/urine/vomit appliques. Metro police, ambulance, and innocent bystanders sold separately.

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I would not hold my breath on this. The website had zero information except renderings.

I heard that Crescent is going to re-do the shops to offer more of a urban feel vs suburban feel. I would love to see both projects.

Still uncomfortable Tophy?

With HP taking up three blocks, the new park approx. 7 or so blocks and the new 37 story One Park Center taking up a block, we are seeing over 10 blocks of downtown prime property being utilized. Kool. B)

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Still uncomfortable Tophy?

With HP taking up three blocks, the new park approx. 7 or so blocks and the new 37 story One Park Center taking up a block, we are seeing over 10 blocks of downtown prime property being utilized. Kool. B)

Don't forget about the Catholic Cathedral or the new Fire Station, each under construction and taking a full block.

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GROUNDBREAKING ANNOUNCED!!!

Nov. 6th. Boo -Yah!

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories.../09/daily3.html

A contact at the Houston Pavilions web site directed me to Wood Partners for information on the condos. This is the reply I received from them:

Thank you for your call. At this time the residential is planned as rental apartments and not condominiums. The project will be called Alta Pavilions and will have 218 units in two residential towers - 13-stories and 15 stories. Each tower will have its own swimming pool, fitness center, outdoor fireplace, grills, and clubroom. The units will have loft finishes with hardwood floors in the living room and kitchen and tile in the bathrooms. All appliances will be stainless steel and gas will be provided for the cook tops.

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Don't forget about the Catholic Cathedral or the new Fire Station, each under construction and taking a full block.

Add the Christ Church Cathedral expansion on a full block of Texas Avenue, plus the new parking garage on Main taking up a half block, and you have 14.5 blocks under (or about to be) construction. Except for the parking garage, I believe all of the other 14 blocks were empty, or nearly empty, prior to construction.

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And underground parking is #1 on the priority list. I hate those above ground or surface lots. We're taking a bite out of this stuff. B)

Slowly, but surely... In the last ten and coming two years, we've chipped away at a TON of surface lots, but lord, there are still a lot of 'em out there.

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Slowly, but surely... In the last ten and coming two years, we've chipped away at a TON of surface lots, but lord, there are still a lot of 'em out there.

The Jury Assembly building will take away another block in the Courthouse District, too. That's 15 1/2.

In the last 6 years or so, I count at least 30 blocks that have been redeveloped, in addition to the 15 that were mentioned. Downtown has approximately 300 city blocks. 15% of the CBD redeveloped in 6-8 years is not chump change.

Minute Maid Park - 9 blocks

Toyota Center & garage - 6 blocks

Hilton Americas & garage - 2.5 blocks

GRB expansion - 2 blocks

METRO headquarters - 1 block

Criminal Courts - 1 block

Civil Courts - 1 block

Courthouse Garage - 1 block

Hobby Center - 2 blocks

Calpine - 1 block

Houston Center 5 - 1 block

UHD Classrooms - 1 block

Enron - 1 block

1000(?) Main - 1 block

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The Jury Assembly building will take away another block in the Courthouse District, too. That's 15 1/2.

In the last 6 years or so, I count at least 30 blocks that have been redeveloped, in addition to the 15 that were mentioned. Downtown has approximately 300 city blocks. 15% of the CBD redeveloped in 6-8 years is not chump change.

Minute Maid Park - 9 blocks

Toyota Center & garage - 6 blocks

Hilton Americas & garage - 2.5 blocks

GRB expansion - 2 blocks

METRO headquarters - 1 block

Criminal Courts - 1 block

Civil Courts - 1 block

Courthouse Garage - 1 block

Hobby Center - 2 blocks

Calpine - 1 block

Houston Center 5 - 1 block

UHD Classrooms - 1 block

Enron - 1 block

1000(?) Main - 1 block

That's pretty amazing. I think you can add a second block for Enron (Chevron) for the new parking garage.

I count something in the neighborhood of 50 remaining blocks of surface parking (not including those that are currently or very soon to be built upon (eg. the Pavilions). Another ten years (or hopefully fewer) at this pace, and bare land may be pretty scarce in downtown Houston

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OK, so shoot me. Actually, it is three quarters of a block, wrapping around the Lancaster on it's eastern and northern flanks. ;)

You are right ... right behind Longhorn and Charlies 517. But, actually, I forgot what was there before? I remember some building being demolished to make way for Calpine. It escapes me what that building was. Do you remember?

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You are right ... right behind Longhorn and Charlies 517. But, actually, I forgot what was there before? I remember some building being demolished to make way for Calpine. It escapes me what that building was. Do you remember?

I think someone told me a while back that it was the Rice Rittenhouse parking garage.

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I am very excited with the things that are going on, things are booming all over the city....

:) yes, it is great to see Houston booming again. Things happening all over our great city.

Puts a smile on our faces.

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Let's see: HP now has Lucky Strike, House of Blues and lots of upscale restaurants. Financing in place. This is going to be BIG for downtown. Discovery Green is under construction. One Park Tower will be breaking ground. Rocbar is going up at Bayou Place. I noticed lots of construction in Midtown and across I-45 as well. Cool B)

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Bon Appetite !!

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories...23/daily17.html

New restaurant tenants at the Pavilions include:

* Lawry's, The Prime Rib: The restaurant will feature prime rib specialties in what will be its first location in the Houston area and only its fifth location in the U.S.

* Tuscany: The old world gourmet coffee shop's third Houston location is headed for the Pavilions.

* Yao's Restaurant and Bar: The second Houston location for the sports-themed restaurant, owned by the family of Houston Rockets superstar Yao Ming.

* Antica Osteria: One of the most popular Italian restaurants in the city, will serve northern and southern Italian delicacies that its loyal patrons have enjoyed in the restaurant's existing location on Bissonnet for years.

* Red Cat Jazz Cafe: Already one of the top live music venues in Houston, Red Cat Jazz Cafe will feature soulful blues and cool jazz with its Creole and southern cuisine at its second downtown location.

* McCormick & Schmick's: The Pavilions will be the second Houston location for this nationwide seafood restaurant.

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Bon Appetite !!

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories...23/daily17.html

New restaurant tenants at the Pavilions include:

* Lawry's, The Prime Rib: The restaurant will feature prime rib specialties in what will be its first location in the Houston area and only its fifth location in the U.S.

* Tuscany: The old world gourmet coffee shop's third Houston location is headed for the Pavilions.

* Yao's Restaurant and Bar: The second Houston location for the sports-themed restaurant, owned by the family of Houston Rockets superstar Yao Ming.

* Antica Osteria: One of the most popular Italian restaurants in the city, will serve northern and southern Italian delicacies that its loyal patrons have enjoyed in the restaurant's existing location on Bissonnet for years.

* Red Cat Jazz Cafe: Already one of the top live music venues in Houston, Red Cat Jazz Cafe will feature soulful blues and cool jazz with its Creole and southern cuisine at its second downtown location.

* McCormick & Schmick's: The Pavilions will be the second Houston location for this nationwide seafood restaurant.

That's sounds like a lot of space. Hopefully they will have a decent amount of room for soft goods retail.

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yea i hope that they start buildng more shopping and stores to shop off main to acomodate this pavilon thing once it opens and kind of turn it into like a 16th strt like mall in Denver does anyone know if the pavilon in denver mushrooomed the deveopment off 16th street mall because the way i see it houston has way more comming to help the pavilions in houston more than denver like the downtown park & park tower.

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yea i hope that they start buildng more shopping and stores to shop off main to acomodate this pavilon thing once it opens and kind of turn it into like a 16th strt like mall in Denver does anyone know if the pavilon in denver mushrooomed the deveopment off 16th street mall because the way i see it houston has way more comming to help the pavilions in houston more than denver like the downtown park & park tower.

i think you need your own track to do all that runnin' on!

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Just a thought (spawned by this morning's rain), if HP is going to be an open-air type of deal with a central walkway and so forth, I wonder if they'll include in its design an overhang that will sort of shelter people from the elements while they're out. It certainly would make the project more appealing year round. This is Houston of course; when it rains, it's usually a pretty good shower.

Again, just a thought.

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Just a thought (spawned by this morning's rain), if HP is going to be an open-air type of deal with a central walkway and so forth, I wonder if they'll include in its design an overhang that will sort of shelter people from the elements while they're out. It certainly would make the project more appealing year round. This is Houston of course; when it rains, it's usually a pretty good shower.

Again, just a thought.

I don't know how they'd work out the on-ground retail, but I wouldn't expect any overhead. They'll probably be just as opened as Rice Village's retail. But all the buildings will be connected with circular sky-tunnels, so if you were inside one building, you could just walk to the other without worrying about the elements. But the idea is to be open-air, I presume.

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Just a thought (spawned by this morning's rain), if HP is going to be an open-air type of deal with a central walkway and so forth, I wonder if they'll include in its design an overhang that will sort of shelter people from the elements while they're out. It certainly would make the project more appealing year round. This is Houston of course; when it rains, it's usually a pretty good shower.

Again, just a thought.

A close inspection of the renderings shows virtually all of the walkways have overhangs or other roofs that shade or protect pedestrians from the elements. The open area along Main Street is surrounded by overhangs next to the buildings.

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Heard some bad news the other day. Looks like the residential isn't going to work. And, the date is being pushed back until around February or March 2007. If there is a silver lining, it does sound like they've secured some other really great tenants including a book store. But, the delay and the lack of residences is a bummer. Still might be a chance, but it looks pretty slim :(

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Heard some bad news the other day. Looks like the residential isn't going to work. And, the date is being pushed back until around February or March 2007. If there is a silver lining, it does sound like they've secured some other really great tenants including a book store. But, the delay and the lack of residences is a bummer. Still might be a chance, but it looks pretty slim :(

If the two apartment towers aren't going to work, maybe they should ditch at least one of them and drop in a hotel or hotel/condo (the original plan included a hotel; Through the first 7 months of 2006, downtown hotels ran at 70% occupancy, a large jump over last year; If that growth continues, the market would be more than able to handle new entrants by the time construction would be completed. ). W Hotels comes to mind...

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this is definitely not good news! I was looking forward to someone telling me that they were starting to get some dirt moving for construction in the next week. MAJOR LET DOWN!

Hey largeTEXAS, did your sources tell you WHY the residential towers wouldn't work out?

BTW: Semipiro is bathing in his laughter of him being right after all! :(

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BTW: Semipiro is bathing in his laughter of him being right after all! :(

I don't see how this makes semipro right. The Pavilions are still being built, there's just speculation that it could be pushed back again. We'll see. Anyhow, they're adding more tenants all the time, I don't see how this news spells the end of the project.

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I hate to admit it but i think i'm starting to join Captain Semipro's team of negativity. This thing has been pushed back too many times and now i'm starting to think the developers are going to pull out alltogether. The residential componenets have been cancelled which will hinder the idea of residential/walking environments on a consistent level. I really pray that it will still go forth but i'm very skeptical now!

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Have some faith, people.

This is a HUGE project right in the heart of the city. These things take TIME. This isn't like plopping down a TGI Fridays out in Katy.

Last I heard, the condo towers were dead. Instead, they were going to build apartment towers and had lined up Wood Partners out of Atlanta to develop the buildings. Wood Partners is part of the team on the Mosaic project and they just recently completed a project on Almeda (rehab of a 10 story building and new buildings around it) under the name Alta Lofts. The Alta brand is what I heard was going to be rolled out for the Pavilions project.

That said, the Pavilions WILL BE BUILT. They are lining up quality tenants. They have secured construction financing from a Houston bank. They have secured loans/bonds from the City of Houston and Harris County.

It is not uncommon at all for a project of this magnitude to be delayed. Get a grip.

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