GreenStreet: Mixed-Use Development At 1201 Fannin St.

[Montrose1100]

I'll never understand the vision to make Dallas St the "Retail" street Downtown when we've got plenty of actual retail spots & streets Downtown. Understand we need garages and entrances/exits, loading docks, garbage entrances, but a true retail street shouldn't have these obstructions and should be put in as an ordinance.

Greenstreet was doomed from the beginning and perhaps too much of a head start. Downtown can really become a retail destination, especially with the East side and Midtown exploding with apartments & town houses. Likely another 20 years before that happens.

[j_cuevas713]

1 hour ago, Montrose1100 said:

I'll never understand the vision to make Dallas St the "Retail" street Downtown when we've got plenty of actual retail spots & streets Downtown. Understand we need garages and entrances/exits, loading docks, garbage entrances, but a true retail street shouldn't have these obstructions and should be put in as an ordinance.

Greenstreet was doomed from the beginning and perhaps too much of a head start. Downtown can really become a retail destination, especially with the East side and Midtown exploding with apartments & town houses. Likely another 20 years before that happens.

Yeah I think Greenstreet was just a bit ahead of the curve, doesn't mean it still can't work. The shell is still good. I like that Dallas St was picked because it forces the cities vision further south. And as more stuff opens up on that end, we'll see the need for more retail. There are still about 4 lots I would like to see turned in to residential on that side of downtown. Trebly Park is basically going to become "Discovery Green south" in time so maybe we'll see more than just the standard midrise. It won't have the same affect but I can still see developers building around it. 

1 hour ago, mattyt36 said:

Trebly Park somehow helping GreenStreet seems quite the reach to me.  There seems to be an underlying thought that any new park will produce the effects of Discovery Green, but when you're talking about a park that takes up 3/4 of a parking lot, I think you'll be lucky if it has even the ho-hum effects of either of the Midtown parks.  (Although, admittedly, La Calle has seemed to help Bagby Park, but I'm not sure how much you can attribute that to the park and restaurant versus the nightlife resurgence in the Gray/Dallas corridor.)

 

For sure it's not going to have the same impact. I'm just saying that it will draw attention and events. And the return on that is more foot traffic for that side. And we've seen it before, things could expand and change just because of this little park. It's a small investment that has a ripple effect. 

THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT TREBLY PARK? “We want it to be the heart of the neighborhood,” says Angie Bertinot, the Downtown District Director of Marketing and Communications. “We do see it as a catalyst project that will hopefully encourage even more development.”

Edited March 23, 2022 by j_cuevas713

[kennyc05]

1 hour ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Yeah I think Greenstreet was just a bit ahead of the curve, doesn't mean it still can't work. The shell is still good. I like that Dallas St was picked because it forces the cities vision further south. And as more stuff opens up on that end, we'll see the need for more retail. There are still about 4 lots I would like to see turned in to residential on that side of downtown. Trebly Park is basically going to become "Discovery Green south" in time so maybe we'll see more than just the standard midrise. It won't have the same affect but I can still see developers building around it. 

For sure it's not going to have the same impact. I'm just saying that it will draw attention and events. And the return on that is more foot traffic for that side. And we've seen it before, things could expand and change just because of this little park. It's a small investment that has a ripple effect. 

THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT TREBLY PARK? “We want it to be the heart of the neighborhood,” says Angie Bertinot, the Downtown District Director of Marketing and Communications. “We do see it as a catalyst project that will hopefully encourage even more development.”

It bothers the hell out me that the new park is not on the full city block I don't why 🤦🏽‍♂️

[Avossos]

52 minutes ago, kennyc05 said:

It bothers the hell out me that the new park is not on the full city block I don't why 🤦🏽‍♂️

same.

[kennyc05]

41 minutes ago, Avossos said:

same.

Maybe one day they'll be able to get the remainder of the block.

[mattyt36]

4 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT TREBLY PARK? “We want it to be the heart of the neighborhood,” says Angie Bertinot, the Downtown District Director of Marketing and Communications. “We do see it as a catalyst project that will hopefully encourage even more development.”

I sincerely hope they are successful in accomplishing what they want.  I see quite an uphill climb, but it's certainly worth trying.

[hindesky]

Houston Eater reported the Hull and Oak opened in the Laura on March 24.

https://houston.eater.com/2022/4/1/23005849/houston-laura-hotel-restaurant-hull-and-oak-opening

 

[BeerNut]

Saturday, May 21, 2022

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GreenStreet 10th Anniversary Event

10:00a - 3:00p

GreenStreet is turning 10! Join us for Greenstreet’s 10th Anniversary Event on May 21st from 10 – 3 PM. The anniversary event will feature Yoga on the Lawn with Lifetime Fitness accompanied by a live DJ, followed by a vendor market, live music, live art, and happy hour!

 

10 AM – Yoga on The Lawn 

Enjoy outdoor yoga with Lifetime Fitness and a live DJ on the first lever GreenStreet Lawn. RSVP HERE: https://forms.gle/vny5171Y52Av2HbMA 

11 AM – Vendor Market 

Shop 50+ Vendors, artisans, and makers curated by BLCK Market & The Brunch Market on the second and third floors!

3 PM Astros Happy Hour

End the day with dinner & drinks at GreenStreet’s on-site restaurants and bars. Watch the Astros take on the Rangers that evening at any of our restaurant bars or snag a free 30-minute B-Cycle to Minute Maid ride at the event!

 

This event is free to attend and paid parking is available in the GreenStreet Garage, located at 1320 Fannin St. Stay tuned for more information!

 

[Big E]

On 5/11/2022 at 12:52 PM, BeerNut said:

Saturday, May 21, 2022

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GreenStreet 10th Anniversary Event

10:00a - 3:00p

GreenStreet is turning 10! Join us for Greenstreet’s 10th Anniversary Event on May 21st from 10 – 3 PM. The anniversary event will feature Yoga on the Lawn with Lifetime Fitness accompanied by a live DJ, followed by a vendor market, live music, live art, and happy hour!

 

10 AM – Yoga on The Lawn 

Enjoy outdoor yoga with Lifetime Fitness and a live DJ on the first lever GreenStreet Lawn. RSVP HERE: https://forms.gle/vny5171Y52Av2HbMA 

11 AM – Vendor Market 

Shop 50+ Vendors, artisans, and makers curated by BLCK Market & The Brunch Market on the second and third floors!

3 PM Astros Happy Hour

End the day with dinner & drinks at GreenStreet’s on-site restaurants and bars. Watch the Astros take on the Rangers that evening at any of our restaurant bars or snag a free 30-minute B-Cycle to Minute Maid ride at the event!

 

This event is free to attend and paid parking is available in the GreenStreet Garage, located at 1320 Fannin St. Stay tuned for more information!

 

Here's to celebrating 10 years of the most underwhelming development in Downtown Houston. Hip hip hooray.

[j_cuevas713]

I wonder if they did more events like this similar to how POST has, if it would help build some momentum. I think they need to renovate the entire complex with a much more modern look. i.e. Montrose Collective

[hindesky]

Tom's Watch Bar a sports bar is moving into Greenstreet across from House of Blues.

https://tomswatchbar.com

https://realtynewsreport.com/downtown-sports-bar-opening-in-greenstreet/

[mattyt36]

1 hour ago, hindesky said:

Tom's Watch Bar a sports bar is moving into Greenstreet across from House of Blues.

https://tomswatchbar.com

https://realtynewsreport.com/downtown-sports-bar-opening-in-greenstreet/

Looks like my kind of place!

[X.R.]

I've been to the Denver location, pretty much the ideal sports bar for cities with multiple teams/strong sports town since their main offering is that they can get any game on any channel. Denver was a lot of people who were baseball/football fans but didn't go to the game, and alot of non-Denver fans looking for their teams' games. And the numerous TVs help them have a bunch of different games on at different times, including the EPL.

I know Greenstreet has its issues, but I think this is a positive sign both for the development and for downtown regarding the strength of the demand for such an experience. Can't help but think this is them thinking "we want to get as close to Toyota Center/Juice Box to capture that audience." Kind of smart since they get to establish the brand before whatever Crane and Co have in store for the area around Minute Maid. 

[nate4l1f3]

Nice! Definitely something that caters to me. If I recall correctly Mia’s was a little on the small side, right?

[Tumbleweed_Tx]

I give it a year, two if they have really deep pockets. The other bars and restaurants are dependent upon activities at the "stupid place" in that complex, which are few and far between now that they have lost their minds. Greenstreet is *not* a destination one goes to regularly.

[hindesky]

If this is where they are moving into, here are the specs.

[hindesky]

Architect - https://sba-arc.com/index.php/our-firm/

[Tumbleweed_Tx]

weird, the address is wrong. 1201 Caroline is the bar that may or may not still be Reserve 101. The stupid place is 1204, this one should be an even number address.

btw, if y'all are ever inclined to cause mayhem, all the pin numbers at the stupid place are 1204....

[mattyt36]

On 7/11/2022 at 1:34 PM, hindesky said:

Architect - https://sba-arc.com/index.php/our-firm/

Somehow missed this. I went to the location in Vegas and very much enjoyed, a great French dip, great atmosphere, and plenty of TVs and bar space. Never thought it would take until April 2023 to open up. OH WELL. Guess in time for Opening Day.

Edited September 12, 2022 by mattyt36

[ttuchris]

I am not sure why my photos load upside down.  How do I fix that?

Anyways, this piece of Greenstreet by Hotel Laura has been incomplete since 2017.  What is the plan?  I am surprised they leave this unfinished next to a nice hotel. 

 

[hindesky]

[Tumbleweed_Tx]

that piece has been like that since they tore down that part of the building. It's a structural part of the sky walk cover.

[IntheKnowHouston]

On 6/6/2022 at 7:15 PM, hindesky said:

Tom's Watch Bar a sports bar is moving into Greenstreet across from House of Blues.

https://tomswatchbar.com

https://realtynewsreport.com/downtown-sports-bar-opening-in-greenstreet/

 

On 6/7/2022 at 1:15 PM, hindesky said:

If this is where they are moving into, here are the specs.

 

On 9/11/2022 at 7:24 PM, mattyt36 said:

Somehow missed this. I went to the location in Vegas and very much enjoyed, a great French dip, great atmosphere, and plenty of TVs and bar space. Never thought it would take until April 2023 to open up. OH WELL. Guess in time for Opening Day.

What Now Houston has an updated opening timeline for Tom's Watch Bar.

The sports bar chain is opening in the former Mia Bella Trattoria restaurant unit at 1201 San Jacinto St., Ste 161 / 1201 Caroline St, Ste 161. It's located in GreenStreet.


From yesterday's article:

"A GreenStreet representative told What Now Houston that Tom’s Watch Bar is tentatively set to open to the public at the end of March 2023."

https://whatnowhou.com/toms-watch-bar-coming-soon-to-houston/


 

Edited January 25 by IntheKnowHouston

[BeerNut]

I heard they plan to replace the restaurant with a comedy club.

[IntheKnowHouston]

@Urbannizer @Triton if possible, please consider merging this topic with the Greenstreet topic. House of Blues is one of several tenants at Greenstreet.


https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/28274-greenstreet-and-the-laura-hotel-autograph-collection/

 

[Tumbleweed_Tx]

On 9/11/2023 at 8:57 AM, BeerNut said:

I heard they plan to replace the restaurant with a comedy club.

they are stupid, but they are not THAT stupid. As a former HoB employee (was there from opening day through 2021 when Dave Chappelle's people got me fired), I can tell you that HoB started in Bahston as a restaurant, so they are a restaurant with a concert venue attached, not the other way around. The food may suck, but they will never lose the restaurant. They depend too heavily upon it for special events which are what keeps the doors open.

[Houston19514]

To be clear, the first House of Blues was a concert hall and restaurant.

[IntheKnowHouston]

Below is the latest retail leasing brochure for Greenstreet, the mixed-use development at 1201 Fannin St.

The site plans indicates the following units are available for lease:
 

• 1201 Main St, Suite 101
• 1201 Main St, Suite 201
• 1201 Fannin St, Suite 123
• 1201 Fannin St, Suite 125
• 1201 Fannin St, Suite 131
• 1201 Fannin St, Suite 133
• 1201 Fannin St, Suite 136
• 1201 Fannin St, Suite 137

 

https://greenstreetdowntown.com/wp-content/uploads/230822-Retail-Leasing-Brochure.pdf

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1201-Fannin-St-Houston-TX/21341752/

https://images1.loopnet.com/d2/aBsut065L1UzLzGoce3g2IHrVxScLRBgd1zD6KhEpVw/230822RetailLeasingBrochure.pdf

 

 

[IntheKnowHouston]

Below are photos of GreenStreet. The photos of the mixed-use development at1201 Fannin are from LoopNet.

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1201-Fannin-St-Houston-TX/21341752/

 

Edited September 15 by IntheKnowHouston

[IntheKnowHouston]

Below are photos of Spaces, a flexible and coworking office space in GreenStreet. It's located at 1201 Fannin St, Suite 262.

The photos are from a LoopNet lease listing.


https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1201-Fannin-St-Houston-TX/24634712/

 

 

Edited September 15 by IntheKnowHouston

[IntheKnowHouston]

On 6/6/2022 at 8:15 PM, hindesky said:

Tom's Watch Bar a sports bar is moving into Greenstreet across from House of Blues.

https://tomswatchbar.com

https://realtynewsreport.com/downtown-sports-bar-opening-in-greenstreet/

 

On 6/7/2022 at 2:15 PM, hindesky said:

If this is where they are moving into, here are the specs.

Below is a screenshot of Tom's Watch Bar from GreenStreet's Instagram two days ago.

The sports bar chain is expanding into the Houston market at 1201 San Jacinto St., Ste 161 / 1201 Caroline St, Ste 161.

According to Tom's Watch Bar's Houston location Instagram, it's looking to open this month.


 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxJRutBJiIH/

https://www.instagram.com/toms_houston/

 

[Tumbleweed_Tx]

20 hours ago, Houston19514 said:

To be clear, the first House of Blues was a concert hall and restaurant.

actually it was in a small house in Cambridge MA that had a stage added as an afterthought when customers started asking for music. 

Live Nation drilled this stuff into our heads as part of the corporate culture. New Orleans was the second HoB, the first one built as a restaurant/concert hall/side room / Foundation Room.

and thanks for making me think about that place more in the last 5 minutes than i have in the last 2.5 years.... .

[Houston19514]

16 hours ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said:

actually it was in a small house in Cambridge MA that had a stage added as an afterthought when customers started asking for music. 

Live Nation drilled this stuff into our heads as part of the corporate culture. New Orleans was the second HoB, the first one built as a restaurant/concert hall/side room / Foundation Room.

and thanks for making me think about that place more in the last 5 minutes than i have in the last 2.5 years.... .

Someone may have told you that take, but that doesn’t make it true.  The founder’s stated mission was the preservation of blues music and they opened as a restaurant and live music venue.  Here’s a story about their grand opening.

 

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1992/12/10/the-house-of-blues-pbmbonday-november/

[Tumbleweed_Tx]

pissing contest over, it was Issac Tigret who told me the story. He was the HoB CEO.

[Houston19514]

7 hours ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said:

pissing contest over, it was Issac Tigret who told me the story. He was the HoB CEO.

ROFL  Riiiiiggghhttt     

First you told us Live Nation "drilled this stuff into [your] head".  Now it magically becomes Isaac Tigret who told you . . .  Isaac Tigret has not been CEO of HoB since 1997 and he left HoB entirely in 1998, long before anyone from Live Nation (let alone Isaac Tigret himself) was telling stories to HoB Houston employees. (The Houston HoB opened in 2008.)

Edited September 18 by Houston19514

[BeerNut]

I have no reason to doubt the source considering industry/HOB connections.  End of the month supposed to be last day.  

[Houston19514]

31 minutes ago, BeerNut said:

I have no reason to doubt the source considering industry/HOB connections.  End of the month supposed to be last day.  

FWIW, they appear to be taking restaurant reservations well into late October (I checked for October 20, to be specific).

[BeerNut]

7 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

FWIW, they appear to be taking restaurant reservations well into late October (I checked for October 20, to be specific).

Hmm I don't have answer for that I just know what I heard and what was posted(private FB page).  

[Justin Welling]

4 hours ago, BeerNut said:

I have no reason to doubt the source considering industry/HOB connections.  End of the month supposed to be last day.  

Do you mind clarifying? You're only talking about the restaurant portion of House of Blues, right? I think you've made it clear in above posts, but just wanted to make sure haha. 

[BeerNut]

Yes just the restaurant portion. I would ask for more details but someone commented that it wasn't supposed to be public knowledge.  My guess is they plan to rearrange seating to focus on stage and retool menu for basic service.  

[Houston19514]

On 9/11/2023 at 8:57 AM, BeerNut said:

I heard they plan to replace the restaurant with a comedy club.

 

On 9/20/2023 at 3:24 PM, BeerNut said:

I have no reason to doubt the source considering industry/HOB connections.  End of the month supposed to be last day.  

Any follow-up from your source?  Per their website, the restaurant still seems to be a restaurant, with no hint of a comedy club.

[skwatra]

On 9/15/2023 at 7:16 AM, IntheKnowHouston said:

The sports bar chain is expanding into the Houston market at 1201 San Jacinto St., Ste 161 / 1201 Caroline St, Ste 161.

According to Tom's Watch Bar's Houston location Instagram, it's looking to open this month.

Their website says they are opening on 10/29

[Tumbleweed_Tx]

7 hours ago, Houston19514 said:

 

Any follow-up from your source?  Per their website, the restaurant still seems to be a restaurant, with no hint of a comedy club.

a current employee confirmed the stupidity - the hob restaurant will be converted into a comedy club. He didn't mention a timeline. 
I guess the door codes won't be 1204 anymore...

[j_cuevas713]

That's actually great news! Downtown needs a comedy club bad. I'm surprised The Houston Improv hasn't moved Downtown yet. 

[X.R.]

Tom's did a soft, soft opening on Saturday night as said by their bar manager. Went there after the Rockets game. You don't know how nice it is to be able to walk three streets and find a place to hang out with TV's facing the street and people sitting on the patio with generally good vibes. Food was fine, typical bar fare, burger was good, etc. Good/great drink specials. The bar facing the street/patio has a great view.

They will be announcing this later, but they are going to be in partnership with the Rockets and will have the official pre-game location. Wish Crane and Co would hurry with the minute maid bars, the ability to make money is so clear. It was a clear funnel from Toyota Center to the bar, and about 30 mins after the game there were tons of people from the game there checking college football games, talking, etc. 

[nate4l1f3]

23 hours ago, X.R. said:

Tom's did a soft, soft opening on Saturday night as said by their bar manager. Went there after the Rockets game. You don't know how nice it is to be able to walk three streets and find a place to hang out with TV's facing the street and people sitting on the patio with generally good vibes. Food was fine, typical bar fare, burger was good, etc. Good/great drink specials. The bar facing the street/patio has a great view.

They will be announcing this later, but they are going to be in partnership with the Rockets and will have the official pre-game location. Wish Crane and Co would hurry with the minute maid bars, the ability to make money is so clear. It was a clear funnel from Toyota Center to the bar, and about 30 mins after the game there were tons of people from the game there checking college football games, talking, etc. 

I randomly drove by Saturday night and they had all the windows opened to the outside and this place looks badass from the street. Definitely exceeding my expectations. 

[hindesky]