TheNiche Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Disturbing.http://www.victoryplate.com/https://www.obamacoins.tv/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieDidIt Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Disturbing.http://www.victoryplate.com/https://www.obamacoins.tv/I think I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I would wait until Obama forges a solid political record, if he does so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 You're probably not surprised to learn that there are entire Obama gift shops on the south side of Chicago, and every Walgreen's in the city has an Obama gift section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 You're probably not surprised to learn that there are entire Obama gift shops on the south side of Chicago, and every Walgreen's in the city has an Obama gift section.I am, and especially that you said "gift shops" plural. I suppose that I shouldn't be, though. And a quick search of Google has turned up hundreds of Obama gift items.For my boss' Porsche, I should order a pair of Obama Car Mats, a "First Family" keychain, and a "Moved It On Up" bumper sticker. He was the only Obama supporter in the office and likes to prosthletize people over it, so this should go over really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20thStDad Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Where's that puking smiley?? It would fit perfectly. Reminds me of how the Chinese and North Koreans treat their leaders, except they have the excuse that they force them to. People are way too delusional about this politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanS Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) Does anyone think for a minute that these plates and coins would not have McCain and Palin on them, had they won?Or how about Ronald Reagan?http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/presi...oins_ag_au.htmlOh yea. Just as cheesy and disturbing. Edited November 23, 2008 by BryanS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) Edited November 23, 2008 by RedScare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Does anyone think for a minute that these plates and coins would not have McCain and Palin on them, had they won?Or how about Ronald Reagan?http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/presi...oins_ag_au.htmlOh yea. Just as cheesy and disturbing.Whether you like him or not, Reagan marked something of a seed change in American presidential politics in much the same way as Jefferson or Jackson. There's reason for holding a special reverence for him.In contrast, the George W. Bush coin seems entirely unjustified. ...of course it goes both ways.Now, as to whether reverence is best demonstrated in the form of commemorative coinage...or whether anybody deserves gift shops (plural)...the answer to both questions is no. The only gift shop unto a president should be the one at his library after the term has come to a conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Whether you like him or not, Reagan marked something of a seed change in American presidential politics in much the same way as Jefferson or Jackson.But, the first Black president in the history of the United States is no change at all.Give it up. You fail on an epic scale. Those who wish to commemorate history with a plate do so. Those who don't complain on internet forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) I'm waiting on the Obama collectors' plates to hang next to my Legends of Nascar collectors' plates! Them's classy. Edit: Oops! When I read the topic I thought it only said coins. Looks like I don't have to wait for the collectors' plates after all. Edited November 24, 2008 by KimberlySayWhat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieDidIt Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I've found a flaw on the coin. The halo is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) I am, and especially that you said "gift shops" plural. I suppose that I shouldn't be, though. And a quick search of Google has turned up hundreds of Obama gift items.For my boss' Porsche, I should order a pair of Obama Car Mats, a "First Family" keychain, and a "Moved It On Up" bumper sticker. He was the only Obama supporter in the office and likes to prosthletize people over it, so this should go over really well.Floormats? Do they have doormats, bathroom mats and toilet paper as well? Diapers would be funny, since that would be change we can ALL believe in! Edited November 24, 2008 by UrbaNerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I've found a flaw on the coin. The halo is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 How about a life-size, stick-on-the-wall, Obama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 But, the first Black president in the history of the United States is no change at all.Give it up. You fail on an epic scale. Those who wish to commemorate history with a plate do so. Those who don't complain on internet forums.Dark skin pigmentation is hardly an accomplishment or an enduring change in presidential politics. And that he got elected is less an indication of his own personal character than it is a reflection on changes in American culture.I realize that there are those that disagree. What can I say about them? :shrug: They're wrong.And what can I say about anything involving commemorative plates and coins except...they're tacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) For those who want to know what bitterness looks like, look above. ^^^ How about a life-size, stick-on-the-wall, Obama? A Big-eared Fathead! SWEET! Edited November 24, 2008 by RedScare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 For those who want to know what bitterness looks like, look above. ^^^A Big-eared Fathead! SWEET! And for those that completely lack taste, you can buy an Obama car mat by following the link above. ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanS Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Dark skin pigmentation is hardly an accomplishment or an enduring change in presidential politics. And that he got elected is less an indication of his own personal character than it is a reflection on changes in American culture.I realize that there are those that disagree. What can I say about them? :shrug: They're wrong.And what can I say about anything involving commemorative plates and coins except...they're tacky....and disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Dark skin pigmentation is hardly an accomplishment or an enduring change in presidential politics. And that he got elected is less an indication of his own personal character than it is a reflection on changes in American culture.I realize that there are those that disagree. What can I say about them? :shrug: They're wrong.And what can I say about anything involving commemorative plates and coins except...they're tacky.You can't see why someone might want to commemorate the first black president of the USA, no matter how tacky? You're a sad man if you can't find some joy in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barracuda Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Dark skin pigmentation is hardly an accomplishment or an enduring change in presidential politics.Wow. I mean, wow. Way to belittle a history of a people's suffering and discrimination. Anyone who's experienced discrimination was in tears over the significance of this election, politics aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 You can't see why someone might want to commemorate the first black president of the USA, no matter how tacky? You're a sad man if you can't find some joy in this.George Carlin coined the phrase, "I leave symbols to the symbol minded." I think that applies here.Obama's skin pigmentation coupled with his presidential victory reflects cultural changes. It is not a cultural change in and of itself, and the cultural change (albeit more abstract) is what ought to be fervently celebrated. Not the symbol of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Disturbing.http://www.victoryplate.com/https://www.obamacoins.tv/A plate with anyone's face on it is tacky, and just asking to become garage sale/landfill material.Waste of money and resources, and anyone who thinks it's tasteful to have these displayed in their homes has no idea what is means to have key decorative items in the house.Junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Waste of money and resources, and anyone who thinks it's tasteful to have these displayed in their homes has no idea what is means to have key decorative items in the house.thank you vern yip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I remember my grandmother had a JFK commerative plaque on the wall in her parlor. All the good Catholics did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 I remember my grandmother had a JFK commerative plaque on the wall in her parlor. All the good Catholics did.Who inherited it? Are they still displaying it or is this a validation of Puma's 'landfill' hypothesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Who inherited it? Are they still displaying it or is this a validation of Puma's 'landfill' hypothesis. God only knows where the JFK ended up. That whole house was a monument to mid-century American crap, Italian-immigrant style. I was lucky enough to inherit the ashtray in the style of Botticelli's Venus (butts in the shell!) , and the Legend of Romulus and Remus ashtray, and a plastic dish with a laminant photo of the fake David outside in the plaza d' Michelangelo. I still use the dish as a sponge holder in the kitchen. The ashtrays broke and made their way to the landfill years ago, as did hundreds of my grandma's decorations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hmm, I wonder if that newfangled waterway thingy in Pearland will have a gift shop for these sorts of trinkets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barracuda Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) If only I had acted now...I could be so proud today. Edited November 24, 2008 by barracuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Edited November 24, 2008 by Vertigo58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Waste of money and resources...This from the guy who spent 80 bucks on Madonna tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Dark skin pigmentation is hardly an accomplishment or an enduring change in presidential politics. And that he got elected is less an indication of his own personal character than it is a reflection on changes in American culture.I realize that there are those that disagree. What can I say about them? :shrug: They're wrong.And what can I say about anything involving commemorative plates and coins except...they're tacky.Well, the reason I think Obama got elected was of three reasons.1) The media trashed Bush like hell and promoted Obama like heaven. Everyone listens to the media.2) Here we have an African-American senator that isn't a buffoon like Al Sharpton or a nutcase like Jesse Jackson Jr.3) McCain's campaign was...not so good.So, Niche, I agree more or less what your saying. I respect the fact that he's the first half black President, and that is notable, but he's a shallow and no-name senator that really shouldn't have deserved the Presidency. I'd like to hear your opinions on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Well, the reason I think Obama got elected was of three reasons.1) The media trashed Bush like hell and promoted Obama like heaven. Everyone listens to the media.2) Here we have an African-American senator that isn't a buffoon like Al Sharpton or a nutcase like Jesse Jackson Jr.3) McCain's campaign was...not so good.So, Niche, I agree more or less what your saying. I respect the fact that he's the first half black President, and that is notable, but he's a shallow and no-name senator that really shouldn't have deserved the Presidency. I'd like to hear your opinions on this one.I more or less agree with you, but I place emphasis on #3. Had the election been held at certain points in the race, McCain may have won (or at least carried the popular vote). But he made a series of aggregious strategic and tactical errors, and effectively ran his campaign into the ground. ...but I'm going OT on my own thread, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 At last count, 8,538,559 more people voted for Obama/Biden than McCain/Palin. That's a lot of voters.Here's what I think; the Republican Party has relied on a coalition of country club Republicans (the owning class) and religious zealouts but that coalition fell apart this year. McCain has never been loved by the Religious Right so it didn't matter how much he changed his views for this election cycle. They were not fired up. Thus, to energize the base, the RNC had throw a bone to the zealouts and that bone was Palin. The problem arose when it became clear that people were paying much more attention to this election than in the recent past. Whether it was the terrible economy, the deficit, the two wars, or a host of any other reasons, there did appear to be a backlash against the Palin choice. I think this is best reflected by the fact of who voted for the Dems this time.Obama did much better with people earning higher incomes than either Kerry or Gore. He did much better with highly educated people with graduate level degrees. He did better with college graduates than Kerry or Gore too.In the end, Obama won 9 of the 10 most educated states (only loss was a close loss in Montana) and 12 of the top 15, including the flip of Virginia, Iowa, and New Hampshire.I truly think the Republican Party has a problem on its hands. It needs to decide whether it wants to be the true conservative party (fiscal responsibility, small government, less regulations into personal lives) or the make believe conservative party that it's become (wild spending, governmental expansion, and invasions of privacy). If it doesn't, then it better hope the American Public goes back to not paying attention... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.S.O.N. Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) I'll save the political rhetoric, but the commercials for those coins/plates are CLASSIC!!! Edited November 25, 2008 by J.A.S.O.N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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