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I think Midtown will survive. The residential population alone will keep most Midtown bars alive, and it looks like more is being built. I think the overall gentrification of the inner loop won't let any of these nightlife areas go away anytime soon.

I don't think the East End will take off as a new nightlife destination like a lot of people, though.

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I think Midtown will survive. The residential population alone will keep most Midtown bars alive, and it looks like more is being built. I think the overall gentrification of the inner loop won't let any of these nightlife areas go away anytime soon.

I don't think the East End will take off as a new nightlife destination like a lot of people, though.

There is a nightlife of sorts along harrisburg and I think Canal Street, but it's more along the line of Tejano and Cantinas, places that *I* would never go to, much less anyone from here.

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Isn't the Drake crowd what's been in the news lately for the immature behavior at 2am? That's over by Pandora's though, so that's on the other end of Washington closer to downtown, so not even in Rice Military.

I'm hoping that Washington only goes as far as having up-tempo lounges rather than mainstream club type places. Not too big on the jam-packed dance clubs that charge covers like you used to find on Richmond 10 years ago. I think the difference between Washington and Richmond is the concept of all the places. Richmond was more about big dance floors and lights and DJs, while Washington is more of a mix of bars, pubs, and lounges that incorporate some dancing and dj-ing and/or live music like Midtown pubs. I think the latter if more of the thing nowadays. The late 90s style clubs have become out of style.

I'm bar and pub kind of guy, but when I'm out at night on weekends I want a more up-tempo place with either live music or lounge music. Anyone know of a spot on Washington that is an uptempo weekend night hot spot, but without the douche atmosphere? I'm looking for a good place to mingle with attractive girls, but I want a more intelligent crowd where the girls have social skills and are more responsive, rather than just taking up space in the bar as a douchebag ornament. Hopefully some of you are hip to the nightlife scene and can point me in the right direction.

Yep, Drake is right by Pandora, but the crowd at Drake is very douche-like and IMO, I'm thinking Reign will attract the likes of the Drake crowd.

As for me, I always have a good time at Etro off Westheimer near Montrose...the dj plays 80s music which I love :)

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Yep, Drake is right by Pandora, but the crowd at Drake is very douche-like and IMO, I'm thinking Reign will attract the likes of the Drake crowd.

As for me, I always have a good time at Etro off Westheimer near Montrose...the dj plays 80s music which I love :)

I've been to Etro Lounge. Loved the ambiance of the place itself, but didn't care for some of the crowd there. The people looked messed up on drugs, and I was too tired at the time to scan for decent girls. Back to Washington scene, apparently Ei8ht has been open for at least a week and is poised to become the new "it" spot on Washington. I checked out the reviews on citysearch and has a few already. Most of the reviews are positive, some negative. I'm not sure if the place is douche-repellent or not, but from what I've read, it has already attracted the kind of people who like to be seen at the "it" spots, and there have been crowds outside the front trying to get in. I'm definitely going to check it out. Anyone on here been yet? I wish I would have gone opening weekend before word got around and the masses start showing up. Now I may have to wait until things settle down a bit, which could take months, or I could just get there early since it is a multi-purpose concept place. Hopefully Reign Lounge will open up soon, and draw in some of the Ei8ht crowd, so that way neither place is too overcrowded.

I think it's safe to say that Washington is no longer an inner loop secret. It's become high profile, which is okay with me as long as all these bars and lounges remain classy or at least respectable, even if some of the customers aren't.

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There is a nightlife of sorts along harrisburg and I think Canal Street, but it's more along the line of Tejano and Cantinas, places that *I* would never go to, much less anyone from here.

My workers especially like JB's on Canal Street, and apparently it gets a little bit of high society...when the politicians are campaigning, at the very least.

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It's become high profile, which is okay with me as long as all these bars and lounges remain classy or at least respectable, even if some of the customers aren't.

I know plenty of fellow Midtown residents that would love for the bars to move to Washington for this very reason.

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I was driving down Washington yesterday and noticed a new bar opening up with a doorway that looks like a barrell. Anyone know anything about this one?

Also, I tried to look for Ei8ht Lounge, but I didn't see it. I was driving from Studemont all the way to T.C. Jester. Is it on a side street? Anyone been there yet and tried it out?

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I was driving down Washington yesterday and noticed a new bar opening up with a doorway that looks like a barrell. Anyone know anything about this one?

Also, I tried to look for Ei8ht Lounge, but I didn't see it. I was driving from Studemont all the way to T.C. Jester. Is it on a side street? Anyone been there yet and tried it out?

eight is RIGHT next to the barrell entrance place.

across the street theres something else....the owner or GC presumably is there ALL the time. really noticeable escalade out front. douchebar or not , gotta respect that kinda work ethnic. was there at 10 or 11 last nt and sparks were flyin

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The barrel place will be Taps House of Beers, I guess this will be similar to the Ginger Man in Rice Village.

The douchiness from the place across the street probably comes from the Escalade with 28" wheels...so 200-LATE!

haha...jk, couldn't resist. I am excited about all of these places opening on Washington, douchey or not.

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Can't blame him. He's trying to hurry up and start making money now that the nightlife is booming around there. So you think the place across from the barrell entrance bar is going to be a douchebar? What gives you the impression if it's not opened yet?

OK, I am old and out of touch...but what exactly is a douchebar?

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Not on Washington, but in the area...

I noticed this morning that the Westcott Bar & Grill, north of the WoW roundabout, has a sign up "congratulating" the neighborhood on "their" new Onion Creek. A similar sign was put up in Shady Acres a few months before Cedar Creek opened for business.

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The barrel place will be Taps House of Beers, I guess this will be similar to the Ginger Man in Rice Village.

The douchiness from the place across the street probably comes from the Escalade with 28" wheels...so 200-LATE!

haha...jk, couldn't resist. I am excited about all of these places opening on Washington, douchey or not.

Taps House of Beers is still on? Nice! I thought they weren't opening anymore and it was going to be Busty (Rusty?) La Rue's. It'll be nice to have a relaxed place with many different kinds of beer.

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Not on Washington, but in the area...

I noticed this morning that the Westcott Bar & Grill, north of the WoW roundabout, has a sign up "congratulating" the neighborhood on "their" new Onion Creek. A similar sign was put up in Shady Acres a few months before Cedar Creek opened for business.

awesome, I love the Creeks. They are neighbor and community friendly. Just wish they would get better food. Had breakfast there Monday morning and the grits were speckles floating in water - grit broth...eggs over easy were more like hard boiled. The bacon was crisp just the way I like it, though. I have never been satisfied with their food and I have been going since they opened. I still like the place.

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I've heard this is a good spot to meet friendly people and attractive girls. Is it a coffee shop or a bar or cafe or all of the above?

Kobain is a bar that has a huge outdoor patio. I'm not sure about any other function (although I saw a sign advertising weekend brunch). IMO, the patrons are not anymore friendly than any other bar. I've always had a great time and met friendly people at Komodos in Midtown. The crowd is mid 20s - mid 30s I'd say.

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Kobain is a bar that has a huge outdoor patio. I'm not sure about any other function (although I saw a sign advertising weekend brunch). IMO, the patrons are not anymore friendly than any other bar. I've always had a great time and met friendly people at Komodos in Midtown. The crowd is mid 20s - mid 30s I'd say.

I just remember someone saying in a citysearch review I read recently that it had attractive girls and people in general there were personable. I had no way of knowing if other places are the same way, since this was my first time to go out at night on Washington other than a show at Walter's on Washington.

Anyway, I went there this Saturday night with my brother. I really liked it a lot more than I thought I would. It lived up to what that reviewer wrote and more! It kind of reminded me of Byzantios a little bit, the way you enter through a gate into an outdoor patio, then there's a covered patio, then the indoors. The place had a really good vibe to it and smelled nice outside. (Not sure if that was the women who smelled so good around me or the candles they had set up on all the tables :)).

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Went to Dubliner on a weekend afternoon. Nothing really special, not very many TV's, not a huge beer selection. Nothing bad about the place, but nothing stood out. Friendly bartender.

Hit Shuck Daddy's last night. Nice layout, friendly and attentive staff. Limited menu (according to my wife), food was a little above average. Prices were hefty. 2 beers, 1 po' boy w/ fries and 1 fried shrimp w/ fries = $30.

Would be great if they had a lunch menu.

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Hit Shuck Daddy's last night. Nice layout, friendly and attentive staff. Limited menu (according to my wife), food was a little above average. Prices were hefty. 2 beers, 1 po' boy w/ fries and 1 fried shrimp w/ fries = $30.

Would be great if they had a lunch menu.

Nice to know... My husband and I were just discussing Shuck Daddy's last weekend and deciding if we should try it... We went somewhere else instead, but we'll definitely give them a try.

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looks like 11 news is doing a report on how the bars are ruining the quality of life for residents along washington corridor

I just saw the report. Like I posted a few pages back the bars and residents on Washington will not co-exist for much longer. Do Houston bars ever win in these qaulity of life issues with local neighbors?

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I just saw the report. Like I posted a few pages back the bars and residents on Washington will not co-exist for much longer. Do Houston bars ever win in these qaulity of life issues with local neighbors?

the city just makes it harder for them to operate. more noise meters, inspections, etc. i know they've been doing joint inspections with tabc in midtown.

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I think some things people say don't help either side:

"We do want development. We want to see businesses come, but the right kind of businesses," said Thomason.

"But at the end of the day, this is a big city and this is how it is when you live inside the loop," Paolucci said.

:huh:

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Does anyone know what happened with Blue Label Lounge? Was it shut down from the inspections that have been going on in Midtown and this area?

It's possible that they are all just going over to "Eight." It's possible that Blue Label and Citizen will collapse under the weight of their own pretentiousness.

As far as the neighborhoods having problems with the bars; unless the city steps in with some sort of ordinance, they will have to rely on law enforcement to keep the crowds in line. Once it starts to get more dense (The corridor, not the people) might solve the issue. But that probably won't happen for decades.

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I know what happened to Blue Label Lounge, it sucks so people stopped going! LOL, jk...just not my crowd.

On a serious note, the comments on that KXAN story mention the comparison between Washington Ave and Richmond Strip several times. As I am a younger pup, can anyone elaborate on the Richmond Strip at all? Supposedly in the '70's (?) this place was hopping and then obviously died down.

In my younger generation, I would be more inclined to compare Washington Ave to 4th St. in Austin.

What are your thoughts on this? Any comparisons between 4th St. and Richmond?

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It's funny that everyone makes that comparison of Washington Ave to Richmond (or midtown, downtown, etc)and that everyone is obviously complaining about the bars, but I actually PREFER the bars on Washington Ave. compared to what was there before the bars came in... OLD Tire Shops, Used Car Lots, Grassy Lots and buildings that were a COMPLETE EYESORE.

I'm just so tired of everyone complaining, It was just 3 or 4 years ago, when I'd have out of town visitors and would try to avoid driving down Washington at all costs..Now there's actually legitimate businesses, eateries, bars, etc....

Since the bars may only be a 3 to 5 yr. phase (if not 5 to 7 yrs.), they are a definite upgrade to what was there 5 yrs. ago. PEOPLE WE MUST CRAWL before we WALK (even if it's a PUB Crawl :rolleyes: )

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I know what happened to Blue Label Lounge, it sucks so people stopped going! LOL, jk...just not my crowd.

On a serious note, the comments on that KXAN story mention the comparison between Washington Ave and Richmond Strip several times. As I am a younger pup, can anyone elaborate on the Richmond Strip at all? Supposedly in the '70's (?) this place was hopping and then obviously died down.

In my younger generation, I would be more inclined to compare Washington Ave to 4th St. in Austin.

What are your thoughts on this? Any comparisons between 4th St. and Richmond?

In the late 90's the Richmond strip was the happening place, similar to what is going on with Washington Avenue. There was pretty much a club/bar at every shopping center, after awhile things just got out of hand. You had people just cruising up and down Richmond and it was packed, if you see the no u-turn signs, that was the reason why. After a few shootings, I think the city stepped in and stopped renewing liquor license. The same thing happened with Main street after the superbowl, again the city stepped in and stopped renewing liquor license. These businesses are great on Friday and Saturday nights at first, but after awhile the it becomes uncontrollable and they do not contribute to the neighborhood during the day time.

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After a few shootings, I think the city stepped in and stopped renewing liquor license. The same thing happened with Main street after the superbowl, again the city stepped in and stopped renewing liquor license. These businesses are great on Friday and Saturday nights at first, but after awhile the it becomes uncontrollable and they do not contribute to the neighborhood during the day time.

If that's the case, then it seems that the boom/bust cycle could easily be nipped in the bud by the city by discouraging similar development once the density of liquor licenses reaches a certain point in an area, rather than waiting for things to spiral out of control.

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If that's the case, then it seems that the boom/bust cycle could easily be nipped in the bud by the city by discouraging similar development once the density of liquor licenses reaches a certain point in an area, rather than waiting for things to spiral out of control.

Welcome to no zoning. If the city would limit these bars to certain areas or districts things would be fine. I'm not saying bars should not be in neighborhoods, but 30 bars within a 3 mile radius are a bit excessive unless they are in a designated area.

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Welcome to no zoning. If the city would limit these bars to certain areas or districts things would be fine. I'm not saying bars should not be in neighborhoods, but 30 bars within a 3 mile radius are a bit excessive unless they are in a designated area.

No zoning doesn't appear to be much of a barrier to them deciding to stop renewing liquor licenses at some point, if what's been said above is correct. If that's the case, what's stopping them from doing it preemptively? Look at the current density in that area, set a soft cap that's a bit lower than that, and take note for the future. Why grant a another liquor license in an area that's reaching saturation, allow someone to make an investment in a property, only to cut the spigot off sometime in the future?

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In the late 90's the Richmond strip was the happening place, similar to what is going on with Washington Avenue. There was pretty much a club/bar at every shopping center, after awhile things just got out of hand. You had people just cruising up and down Richmond and it was packed, if you see the no u-turn signs, that was the reason why. After a few shootings, I think the city stepped in and stopped renewing liquor license. The same thing happened with Main street after the superbowl, again the city stepped in and stopped renewing liquor license. These businesses are great on Friday and Saturday nights at first, but after awhile the it becomes uncontrollable and they do not contribute to the neighborhood during the day time.

Actually I'm aware of the '90's Richmond strip scene. You described it exactly, as I would eat at the Taco Cabana on Richmond and Chimney Rock pretty often. From other posts I've seen most people are referring to the Richmond Strip during the 70's and 80's as the place to be. I've even read on Swamplot that the strip around Memorial Dr. from 610 to Beltway 8 is known as the "Divorce Strip from people meeting on the Richmond Strip".

Seems like the '90s Richmond scene was after the high point and definitely on the decline. More interested in the period prior, was it even that prevalent?

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I moved to Houston in 1997 when I was 22 and all of my friends went to Richmond to party. Just as you said, bars everywhere, bumper to bumper traffic late at night. Then the scene moved to Midtown/Downtown, now Washington. I had not been down Richmond for many years and drove down it a couple months ago. There were a lot of restaurants/bars that were out of business and with the building still empty. I think most of these were restaurants that came in during the end of the Richmond strip boom. What's worse on Washington? Vacant buildings from businesses that closed down, or as it was before with pawn shops, etc.

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Actually I'm aware of the '90's Richmond strip scene. You described it exactly, as I would eat at the Taco Cabana on Richmond and Chimney Rock pretty often. From other posts I've seen most people are referring to the Richmond Strip during the 70's and 80's as the place to be. I've even read on Swamplot that the strip around Memorial Dr. from 610 to Beltway 8 is known as the "Divorce Strip from people meeting on the Richmond Strip".

Seems like the '90s Richmond scene was after the high point and definitely on the decline. More interested in the period prior, was it even that prevalent?

The Richmond Strip actually began on Westheimer during the 70s. Toward the end of the 70s and beginning of the 80s, the Strip began to morph south to Richmond. As the 80s progressed, most of the bars from Westheimer closed and new ones opened farther west on Richmond. During the 90s, the bars hit their stride. They also became much larger. This brought the cruisers, which brought trouble. When violence erupted on the street and in the parking lots, the City leaders and police started paying attention. The rest is history.

I do not recall a concerted effort to yank liquor licenses. Jerrios' comment that the city stepped in and stopped renewing licenses after a few shootings is incorrect. TABC, a state agency, renews licenses. The City could contest the renewal on nuisance grounds, but I am unaware if that ever happened on Richmond. More likely, as the Strip got a bad reputation, the paying customers went elsewhere. No customers...no business. They shut down. Many moved to Shepherd square, which suffered a similar fate. Then they went downtown. Now, they are on Washington.

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The Richmond Strip actually began on Westheimer during the 70s. Toward the end of the 70s and beginning of the 80s, the Strip began to morph south to Richmond. As the 80s progressed, most of the bars from Westheimer closed and new ones opened farther west on Richmond. During the 90s, the bars hit their stride. They also became much larger. This brought the cruisers, which brought trouble. When violence erupted on the street and in the parking lots, the City leaders and police started paying attention. The rest is history.

I do not recall a concerted effort to yank liquor licenses. Jerrios' comment that the city stepped in and stopped renewing licenses after a few shootings is incorrect. TABC, a state agency, renews licenses. The City could contest the renewal on nuisance grounds, but I am unaware if that ever happened on Richmond. More likely, as the Strip got a bad reputation, the paying customers went elsewhere. No customers...no business. They shut down. Many moved to Shepherd square, which suffered a similar fate. Then they went downtown. Now, they are on Washington.

I'm in agreement with RedScare. I think that Richmond Strip just dwindled down to mostly the bars that were there in the first place for the most part when Richmond at Shepherd came into popularity which dwindled when the first downtown wave gained popularity and on it goes.

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