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new orleans is not a place to live, and yes its dangerous. its look dirty also in those pics. I visited new orleans alot of times, smells like a damn sewer, but nice to have fun and come back home. That's why people that lives in new orleans rather live in texas, cause more nicer, more things to get into, and twice as more JOBS!

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The first time I went to New Orleans, I loved it.

The second time I went, I loved it.

The third time was not so great.

The fourth time I didn't like it.

The fifth time I just thought it was gross.

I don't think the city changed all that much over four years. I think the magic just wore off.

I agree that it's dirty, and much more dangerous than Houston, but maybe not so dangerous as New York. But it's the filth that bothers me more.

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Typical Houston Architecture Form bashing. It seems like many people on this form bash any city that is not Houston. I know many people who quit posting on this forum because of it and other reasons (child like behavior). I would move back to New Orleans in a heartbeat if I had a job there. I never had a problem with crime. Half of all the murders are within a seven-mile radius, which is consisted of the projects that they are being torn down. It is dirty because it is 300yrs old. It is not new like Houston. They city has done an exemplary job of preserving the vibe, culture, and architecture of the city. Houston is still trying to grasp that idea. I love Houston do not get me wrong, but Houston could learn many things from it

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Houston, can make up of different cities such as; new york, chicago, l.a., even international cities. They flim movies here to make up for those cities. New orleans is not even close to be an international city. Yes, New orleans have great architecture, and culture, but it's nasty, smelly, and the buildings look like its has mildew on them. i would never live in new orleans, but I'll visit. That's why people all over louisiana really wants to come to houston, or dallas cause of jobs, and more things to get into here. Texas is king of the south, and houston is #1, and everyday we're growing and growing. New orleans is light miles away from houston and dallas. So please don't even compare new orleans to the texas cities. I rather move to austin before i move to new orleans, and austin is not that big. I know alot of my friends from new orleans right now saying they wish they could come to texas, cause its ain't s.h.i.t. here. But New Orleans is a nice city to Visit, but not to live.

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Typical Houston Architecture Form bashing.  It seems like many people on this form bash any city that is not Houston.  I know many people who quit posting on this forum because of it and other reasons (child like behavior).  I would move back to New Orleans in a heartbeat if I had a job there.  I never had a problem with crime. Half of all the murders are within a seven-mile radius, which is consisted of the projects that they are being torn down.  It is dirty because it is 300yrs old.  It is not new like Houston.  They city has done an exemplary job of preserving the vibe, culture, and architecture of the city.  Houston is still trying to grasp that idea.  I love Houston do not get me wrong, but Houston could learn many things from it
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New Orleans is supposed to be a bit dirty, and mildewed and decayed. It's what gives the French Quarter its patina, its ambiance, its mystery.

The funny thing is that a lot of the 'decay' you see isn't really genuine. They have very strict preservation laws, and any change - including maintenance - to an exterior of a building has to go through exhaustive review. I was told by a native that any material that isn't hopelessly rotted or termite infested must be re-used; and new materials have to be artificially aged. Therefore, if you have to replace a door or window, it not only has to match the original in construction, and be of a period-appropriate color; after painting, people apply paint remover, then wipe it off, so that it has the appearance of having been there for a couple of hundred years. Vinyl siding or aluminum storm doors would ruin the effect.

And it pays off. New Orleans is one of the world's great unique cities. How many plays and movies have been set in N.O. compared to, say, Houston? How many advertisements have been filmed there? And artists make a good living by selling watercolors of quaint French Quarter scenes (funny, you don't find many tourists eager to buy prints of The Galleria or Katy Mills).

New Orleans can be dangerous. The natives were very clear about which streets to avoid at night, and even on which side of the street I should walk (the side away from where the cars are parked; muggers lurk there). They can size up a drunk tourist at a glance. Here's a typical New Orleans scam:

"Bet you $5 I can tell you were you got them shoes."

"Bet you can't. Here's $5...."

"You got them on yo' feet."

New Orleans is a peculiar blend of truth and fiction, of calculated charm. If I had a spare liver, I'd love to live there.

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I agree, but all your talking about is the French Quarter. Name other parts of New Orleans that aren't as bad as they seem.

The Garden District - in may eyes it is the best neighborhoods on the continent.

The Warehouse District - Old Warehouses turned into lofts, art galleries, and upscale restaurants.

Mid City - nice neighborhoods lined with oaks and century old homes and business

The Margine - just like the French quarter but not with clubs and bars.

By-Water - a up and coming neighborhood with artist and professionals

Old Metarie - old estates just outside the city that is on par with river oaks

The CBD - that has many turn of the century skyscrapers.

Should I go on?

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Houston, can make up of different cities such as; new york, chicago, l.a., even international cities. They flim movies here to make up for those cities. New orleans is not even close to be an international city. Yes, New orleans have great  architecture, and culture, but it's nasty, smelly, and the buildings look like its has mildew on them. i would never live in new orleans, but I'll visit. That's why people all over louisiana really wants to come to houston, or dallas cause of jobs, and more things to get into here. Texas is king of the south, and houston is #1, and everyday we're growing and growing. New orleans is light miles away from houston and dallas. So please don't even compare new orleans to the texas cities. I rather move to austin before i move to new orleans, and austin is not that big. I know alot of my friends from new orleans right now saying they wish they could come to texas, cause its ain't s.h.i.t. here. But New Orleans is a nice city to Visit, but not to live.

New Orleans not an international city? Dude the port of South Louisiana is the largest in the United States. The city does not want to grow to 5 million like Houston. Growth is very restricted in the city and has been for several decades. People all over Louisiana do not want to move to Houston or Texas, but many of them have to because most of the Oil Companies downsized and moved over here. If you ask most people who are from Louisiana or New Orleans they would move back if their job would let them, as would all my Louisiana friends and I. I am glad Houston is growing by leaps and bounds, but it could learn much from New Orleans. That city has done more to preserve it's identity, architecture, culture, and heritage than almost any other major city, even at the expense of economic expansion. Unlike here in Houston, money is not everything over there. I am happy that Houston is used in film to pretend it is NYC or Chicago. They obviously can not do that in New Orleans because every one who would see it would know right off the bat it is New Orleans (Again look at preserving identity). You can not say the same about Houston. Houston is a great city. I love it. I should not be surprised that people on this forum are bashing yet another city. I should expect this as the norm by now.

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The Port of Houston, one of the region's greatest assets, ranks as the nation's largest port in international tonnage and second in total tonnage.

According to the report, total waterborne commerce in the United States reached a record 2.34 billion tons in 1998. The Port of South Louisiana was ranked first in total tonnage, followed by Houston and New York.

Pretty good for New Orleans for once.

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The nation's poorest congressional district is New Orleans. And, no... I don't think people here bash other cities. People here are quite fond of Bartlesville, Austin, I would even say New Orleans. Houstonians have a fondness for any city that is genuine. They may not have a fondness for Dallas, simply because they rival Houston and are not genuine. Cities like Baton Rouge aren't unique either.

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Thanks for posting the pics. I so miss that lovely city. Where I do agree that it can be a dangerous place I still ove it. It is not a place you woudl want to raise a family anymore but if I was single or had not kids I would live there in a heart beat.

Both of my parent were born and rasied there and I was born there but primarly raised in Houston. Again thanks

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New Orleans is a great city. There is a lot of short-sightedness on this forum in that regard. While New Orleans has a lot of crime, it isn't all over the city like some portray. Some of the most beautiful residential areas that I've ever seen are in New Orleans. Houston's downtown will never have the appeal for tourism and cultural activities like the city of New Orleans. Sure, Bourbon Street stinks, but it is a bar strip in the middle of a city. Any areas with non-stop partying will be the same.

HOWEVER, there is no sustainable economy in NO except tourism. Most people have to leave South Louisiana to go to cities like Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta to get really good jobs that pay well. Not so many people flee NO and South LA like some portray because the thing about people there is they are very family focused, and those that leave generally return within a few years.

I like Houston and grew up outside of New Orleans in a smaller town. However, I would no go back unless I got one unbelievable opportunity (which isn't likely). I live in Midtown Houston and there is no way that it compares to Uptown New Orleans. Nothing in Houston does if you like a lot of historical influence in your architecture and atmosphere.

Houston could learn a lot from New Orleans from a historical and architectural perspepctive. However, NO could learn a lot from Houston in more economic regards. That being said, Houston isn't exactly a beacon of economic diversity.

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Sorry, I meant that as a kidding reply to Sooner and Rice grad.

I haven't been on in awhile... I apoligize. Life has wrapped me up, lol. I was taken aback when I did see that though, reassured when I saw your explanation though. Good one. Ha! :lol:

Not True Though.

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I grew up in the city of Thibodaux about 60 miles southwest of New Orleans. I've visited New Orleans several times and made it a point to see more and more areas. The city is always better than the news portrays it. You would think the city should be called New Fallujah from the new reports, but it is not that bad.

The current Mayor is also weeding out all the corruption from the past 20 years of bad mayors. He is a local business man that is cleaning things up like Mayor White is trying to do here.

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Garden District - Beautiful streetside density. 200 year old woodframe victorians next to double entry/exit shotguns. St. Charles Ave & the electric streetcars, with wonderful mansion type homes & oak trees lining the street all the way to Carrollton Ave.

Uptown - Still more beautiful victorian architecture & home to Audobon Zoo and Audobon Place (a River Oaks type neighborhood), also home to Loyola University.

(I will edit this post to add pictures as soon as I get them hosted, which should be today.)

My father grew up on Audubon blvd in the heart of the garden district. I spent many a happy day lying in the grass in the front yard watching the squirrels playing the ancient oaks and riding the streetcars down to the Quarter. Ah how I miss those days.

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The Garden District - in may eyes it is the best neighborhoods on the continent.

The Warehouse District - Old Warehouses turned into lofts, art galleries, and upscale restaurants.

Mid City - nice neighborhoods lined with oaks and century old homes and business

The Margine - just like the French quarter but not with clubs and bars.

By-Water - a up and coming neighborhood with artist and professionals

Old Metarie - old estates just outside the city that is on par with river oaks

The CBD - that has many turn of the century skyscrapers.

Should I go on?

Although I wouldn't want to live there I have to admit that I like N.O. It's unlike any city in the country and has such a french feel to it. My wife is from Red Stick (Baton Rouge) so I get over there every now and again. The food is great to!!!

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New Orleans is supposed to be a bit dirty, and mildewed and decayed. It's what gives the French Quarter its patina, its ambiance, its mystery.

New Orleans can be dangerous. The natives were very clear about which streets to avoid at night, and even on which side of the street I should walk (the side away from where the cars are parked; muggers lurk there).

New Orleans is a peculiar blend of truth and fiction, of calculated charm. If I had a spare liver, I'd love to live there.

You are correct. It is a great place to visit. I go at least 3x/yr. However living in the Quarter (or nearby can be difficult). Many long term residents that I know are moving from the quarter.

The comment about walking on the side of the street where the cars aren't parked is true.

I went on a garden district tour 4-5 yrs ago and i remember the guide told the ladies "please clutch your purses as you walk through the intersection." I asked why? and she said that the kids come by on their bikes and while the ladies are crossing the intersection, they grab their purses.

The architecture is wonderful as i have befriended numerous residents who now invite me to stay with them while i'm there. Some of them consider me a native there. I know to say buGUNdy not BURgandy, etc The people are nice there just like Houston.

Yes the town is economically blighted for most, however the Quarter area is a wonderful place to visit for adults. Kind of like Houston, there are MANY hidden gems. If you say off the beaten path, you will like it.

As for that spare liver, head to Warren's Inn downtown on Travis, I'm sure there are a few there to spare.

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I'm from New Orleans, and I'm not one for bashing. But one thing I can't tolerate is someone talking about my home. The best thing that ever happened to New Orleans was the oil bust. New Orleans was poised to become what Houston is. And thanks to some political pocket lining and the economy, ironically for the best, we missed out on the mess that Houston endures. Yes, New Orleans is dirty. But a little dirt doesn't kill. The New Orleans murder rate does seem high. But take out a map. Mark in red where all of the murders occur. You'd find a pretty clean map with a couple of dime sized red dots. The fact is that the perception of crime here is much worse than the violent crime itself. It's VERY confined to just a few areas. I also happen to like the fact that anywhere I need to go, I can get there within a half an hour. And that's with heavy traffic! New Orleans did miss out on a whole hell of a lot. We missed out on being #1. Number 1 in air polution, ground polution, water polution, reinforced concrete highway monstrosities, and out of control urban sprawl. We are by no means perfect. Unlike Houston, we don't claim to be. We are struggling with our public school system. We are cleaning up our fragile corporate environment. We are working hard on our strengths in tourism and the convention industry. We are taking the regional approach seriously in our area. (example: La. has committed 1 million dollars to help Stennis, in Miss., land a NASA project) We, as a community, have taken a step back... looked good and hard at what we want to become, and we're trying to do our best to get there. We don't want to be Houston or Atlanta. We want to be the New Orleans that we know we can be, unique in every way. So please, before you bash my home, take a good look at your own.

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yea great post JWR..N.O. is a great city..but just like any other big city it has problems. problems that are being solved and handled in the proper way. Now the real estate market is hitting big and plans for 3 new high rise condos are being brought up. New Orleans seems to be moving forward, new jobs are being created, 2004 was the first year that the gain in the metro pop. wasnt just from people moving out or NO but from people(mostly retired people) moving to the suburbs around the city, and now if these condos work it could draw even more people to the city which would bring in more money and create more jobs which would make the cities economy go up. I was born in NO and I now live in covington about 40 miles north.. and I love the city. there is so much to do, amazing food and culture..and history is everywhere. Houston is great to, i have family living in the woodlands area and consider it my secong home..but there is just something about New Orleans that makes me love it.

does anyone know when the artists pic of the new 700-800 foot condo will be released??

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Here's the problem... There is a tower that hasn't been announced yet. It's supposed to be an office tower, possibly a mixed-up devolopment like the Hancock Tower in Chicago is. They want to be the tallest (and from the talk, will be no matter what). But the knew condo tower wants the honors. That's why they first said 50 stories @ 700 ft. Now they say 60 stories, which would make it atleast 790 ft, and that's with 8' high ceilings with 1' thick decks. From the sound of things, they could go into a height battle. If they finally decide on a height, it could go before the Regional Planning Commission by next month. If it passes, they should be eager to introducing it to the public. So, I would think that we would be seeing it by the end of July.

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