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Thanks for posting, I just posted a topic about the entertainment industry in Texas, and how it lagging behind States like Georgia, California, Florida and New York. I really hope this happens, but for some reason, I think the people in charge of the decision will choose not to because that is the way it usually works in Houston, its like nothing cool is allowed for the city.

If you were seriously forward-thinking, you would be down with the former Astrodome as an Agri-Center.

Movies are bullshit, kid. Think of the agricultural future of the planet, and not TV for a change.

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If you were seriously forward-thinking, you would be down with the former Astrodome as an Agri-Center.

Movies are bullshit, kid. Think of the agricultural future of the planet, and not TV for a change.

Of the options that have been given crunch, the moviedome is the best. Agri-Center was not an option, and if it was it wouldn't be my top option. The entertainment industry is much more attractive than an agri-center.

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Of the options that have been given crunch, the moviedome is the best. Agri-Center was not an option, and if it was it wouldn't be my top option. The entertainment industry is much more attractive than an agri-center.

Options given by whom?

Are you not equipped for a reasonable debate? I can assure you that quite a number of people are in favor of an agribusiness option for the dome. Let's just start with why, from an engineering and economic standpoint, you are in favor of a film studio. You go first, as I know your supporters have some damn tight ROI figures:

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i think i have to agree with citykid09 on this one. movie and film industry seems much more exciting than a agriculture center. That seems like a big waste of space. If you want an agricenter, there's plenty of open land outside of the Houston metro area for that. :)

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i think i have to agree with citykid09 on this one. movie and film industry seems much more exciting than a agriculture center. That seems like a big waste of space. If you want an agicenter, there's plenty of open land outside of the Houston metro area for that. :)

A huge concrete wasteland otherwise known as the AstroDomain could be used TO GROW STUFF, and then load it onto trucks to MOVE IT. The whole point is that the open exurban land is going to get built on. After the endless subdivisions go up, how do we maximize urban and suburban space ? The dome can be farmed in layers--stacks if you will. Jesus. I can't believe this is the thousand dollarsing future of urban planning. I can't believe I'm even having this conversation.

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A huge concrete wasteland otherwise known as the AstroDomain could be used TO GROW STUFF, and then load it onto trucks to MOVE IT. The whole point is that the open exurban land is going to get built on. After the endless subdivisions go up, how do we maximize urban and suburban space ? The dome can be farmed in layers--stacks if you will. Jesus. I can't believe this is the thousand dollarsing future of urban planning. I can't believe I'm even having this conversation.

LOL! crunch that would be a great idea really it would if there was no space for that type of stuff, but this is Texas, there is plenty of land. I could see if this was Manhattan or some other small area and there was no way to grow enough with the land that was left. I think the movie/TV studio/museum/etc would be best. It will bring in lots of money, tourist will be attracted, and maybe Houston can get some talk shows taped their which will attract tourist to be on the shows. It would be great it is an attraction for music artist as well to record music, or shoot music videos.

If it can't be a movie studio, I really don't know what it could be used for. Well how about a city with a city. Astrodome city? apartments, a hotel, businesses, etc all in the dome.

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We can turn the Dome into a giant indoor seascape, filling it with sharks and whales and sea anemones. That way, when people say, as they inevitably will, "Galveston sucks," we can direct them to the Astrogulf. The train goes right to it, and it's near the middle of town. No more pesky 50 minute drives!

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i really hope this happens too, but like Kimberly i too am a tad pessimistic that this will go all the way. It seems in the past whenever Houston has the opportunity to do something great, it's always drops the ball. I hope and pray things will be different this time around!

BTA (but then again) maybe this will go the way of HP and actually get approved!

BTW- this is my first post in over 5 months. Did yall miss tierwestah?

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It seems in the past whenever Houston has the opportunity to do something great, it's always drops the ball.

BTW- this is my first post in over 5 months. Did yall miss tierwestah?

Welcome back tierwestah, I feel the same way, but when you try to say that on HAIF, some people get uptight and say you don't know what you are talking about.

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How is privatizing a public building a good idea in this case?

Well it isn't so public now, you could just walk in now if you wanted to. They will have a museum in it as well and I am sure you can get studio tours. Letting the movie studio use it is better than letting it sit empty for more years. What solution do you have to keep it a public building that can be used by the citizens of Houston? A giant indoor park?

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LOL! crunch that would be a great idea really it would if there was no space for that type of stuff, but this is Texas, there is plenty of land. I could see if this was Manhattan or some other small area and there was no way to grow enough with the land that was left. I think the movie/TV studio/museum/etc would be best. It will bring in lots of money, tourist will be attracted, and maybe Houston can get some talk shows taped their which will attract tourist to be on the shows. It would be great it is an attraction for music artist as well to record music, or shoot music videos.

If it can't be a movie studio, I really don't know what it could be used for. Well how about a city with a city. Astrodome city? apartments, a hotel, businesses, etc all in the dome.

I agree with you on this one, citykid. Land is abundant; if urban agribusiness is our aim, then we ought to seriously incentivize the utilization of vacant urban acreage as community gardens. I'd be for that. Crunch is asking for ROI figures, yet I cannot fathom that the crop yield from an Astrodome-based hydrophonics operation would be sufficient even to maintain the facility itself...unless of course we're talking about a certain sort of crop ;), but you know that's not gonna happen.

At the same time, as I mentioned in your entertainment industry thread, the concept of using the Astrodome for studios is also pretty absurd. Some tiltwall buildings with up to 40-foot clearance heights would satisfy the same physical needs at minimal cost. Movie studios don't need sexy buildings, just expansive and cheap buildings. It's easy to forget this if you're reading tabloids or whatever it is you do to obtain your information about the entertainment industry, but that industry is a profit-motivated business. And business is about the profit margin. Never forget that.

What I propose is a convention hotel (smaller than had been initially proposed) coupled with the world's largest medical mall and permanent medical exposition. Along the alignment of Holly Hall (if it continued west of Fannin) would be a sports-themed retail/entertainment strip, behind which would be a permanent array of carnival rides for the kiddoes; replacement parking would be at the old Astroworld site, with people-moving sidewalks providing a rapid connection back to the core of Reliant Park on game days or during the Rodeo. The concept would integrate Reliant Park into the Texas Medical Center, which continues to steadily creep south. Given the current financial environment, I cannot envision any use of the Astrodome being privately-financed, so some amount of public input would be necessary; yet that's not so objectionable in my mind for something that picks at low-hanging fruit as it is for something as pie-in-the-sky as a stand-alone grow house or stand-alone movie studios.

...plus, anything that benefits the quality of services rendered at the TMC benefits the whole of our regional population. "You might live longer" is always a stronger value proposition than "you'll be able to eat locally-grown Astro-Veggies" or that "movies that you don't participate in get filmed here, briefly, before all the hard work is sourced to NYC or LA".

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That was a april fool's joke..

Was it really? A safari sounds like a good idea though. I would still rather have it become a Movie Studio.

If it doesn't become a Movie Studio it would be great if the state allowed gambling in the state only within the dome. If that were to happen, I guarantee you that Houston would be one of the top tourist destinations in Texas if not the nation.

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Was it really? A safari sounds like a good idea though. I would still rather have it become a Movie Studio.

If it doesn't become a Movie Studio it would be great if the state allowed gambling in the state only within the dome. If that were to happen, I guarantee you that Houston would be one of the top tourist destinations in Texas if not the nation.

City, you've hit on the best idea so far, and - the most probably successful - IF you could get past the Baptists .... that's not gonna' happen yet.

Man, we could have the beginnings of a place as significant as the Balineese Room, right there at the Dome! Now that's a plan old Roy would look down on with admiration!!

I can't wait 'til the Baptists roll in on my post, with the, " Organized crime!!! Prostitution!!!( I am FOR legalized prostitution BTW ) The END TIMES!!!! Be Afraid!!! They'll all go to Vegas, and play, but we can't have it here!

O.K.: I've got 2 select bottles of old vine red Zin, a John Wayne movie ( The Searchers ), and a beautiful woman at the fort, in preparation for the on-slaught of Armageddon!!!

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City, you've hit on the best idea so far, and - the most probably successful - IF you could get past the Baptists .... that's not gonna' happen yet.

Man, we could have the beginnings of a place as significant as the Balineese Room, right there at the Dome! Now that's a plan old Roy would look down on with admiration!!

I can't wait 'til the Baptists roll in on my post, with the, " Organized crime!!! Prostitution!!!( I am FOR legalized prostitution BTW ) The END TIMES!!!! Be Afraid!!! They'll all go to Vegas, and play, but we can't have it here!

O.K.: I've got 2 select bottles of old vine red Zin, a John Wayne movie ( The Searchers ), and a beautiful woman at the fort, in preparation for the on-slaught of Armageddon!!!

I like people like you! Just Real!

If not the Astrodome I say Texas could set aside maybe 4 square miles or less where developers could come in and develop a mini Vegas. Put it in an area where no one live such as somewhere in West Texas maybe the desert that way people wont complain. It would develop densely because everyone would want some of the land within the boundary. I think more people would be willing to except gambling in a concentrated boundary.

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I like people like you! Just Real!

If not the Astrodome I say Texas could set aside maybe 4 square miles or less where developers could come in and develop a mini Vegas. Put it in an area where no one live such as somewhere in West Texas maybe the desert that way people wont complain. It would develop densely because everyone would want some of the land within the boundary. I think more people would be willing to except gambling in a concentrated boundary.

While we're at it, there ought to be a red light district as one component of the Reliant Park gambling district. Just like Amsterdam, but with prettier women...and men, because I need a job. :lol:

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While we're at it, there ought to be a red light district as one component of the Reliant Park gambling district. Just like Amsterdam, but with prettier women...and men, because I need a job. :lol:

After your army idea, nothing should surprise me :lol: Alas, unless you're thinking of switching teams, the first legal male prosty in the US recently quit his Nevada bunny ranch gig after a couple of months to go back to porn. No customers. That's one bright spot about being female: I may make 78 cents to the man's dollar, but I'll never have to pay for sex.

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After your army idea, nothing should surprise me :lol: Alas, unless you're thinking of switching teams, the first legal male prosty in the US recently quit his Nevada bunny ranch gig after a couple of months to go back to porn. No customers. That's one bright spot about being female: I may make 78 cents to the man's dollar, but I'll never have to pay for sex.

Nor do you see as many women lining up to go to places to tuck in 1 dollar bills in men.

"Weaker sex" my poopy head.

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After your army idea, nothing should surprise me :lol: Alas, unless you're thinking of switching teams, the first legal male prosty in the US recently quit his Nevada bunny ranch gig after a couple of months to go back to porn. No customers. That's one bright spot about being female: I may make 78 cents to the man's dollar, but I'll never have to pay for sex.

Just so we're perfectly clear...that was a joke. I have a future now.

And what's so crazy about seeking an Army commission, anyway? Crazy would be sitting on my ass for another year (or longer). Another kind of crazy would be expending ridiculous sums of borrowed resources to go to a grad school that does little to distance myself from a dead industry.

Military experience signals a clean break from past work experience as well as some amount of personal discipline and an ability to commit to something in the face of certain adversity; it gets me an in with every employer that's ever been in the military; and the leadership experience puts me on a level that no fresh-faced MBA or baby lawyer can really compete with. I know that I probably come off sounding like an advertisement, but these are conclusions I've drawn from discussing this idea with former employers as well as with all the chumps that have actually done grad school and are now working for the Census just to scrape by.

Then consider the pecuniary aspects. It'll pay about $120k for three years, plus room and board for those years (whatever that's worth), followed by Hazelwood Act (100% free tuition and fees for 150 credit hours, transferable to a spouse or dependents) combined with the MGIB & Kicker...which (for UH Law School, as a specific example) adds up to Marksmu's 'gubbmint' paying out about another $192k. So for three years that I might've spent as a depressing unemployable bum or otherwise digging myself deeper into a debt hole in an effort to convince myself that I'm being productive--which I wouldn't be, really--I instead get to accumulate government-backed benefits, the best kind of benefit, on par with a job that has a six-figure salary.

It's a no-brainer. ... and all I have to do is ensure that that phrase doesn't inadvertently become double entendre.

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This is just my opinion, but I think the Astrodome will be next in line to face the same destiny Texas Stadium did this morning. With a massive city deficit and a shortfall of a projected $90 million by the end of the next fiscal year, I think the Astrodome will be next for the demolition teams. It's costing the city millions to keep it as is every year and with a lackluster economy, I just don't see the dome being saved.

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This is just my opinion, but I think the Astrodome will be next in line to face the same destiny Texas Stadium did this morning. With a massive city deficit and a shortfall of a projected $90 million by the end of the next fiscal year, I think the Astrodome will be next for the demolition teams. It's costing the city millions to keep it as is every year and with a lackluster economy, I just don't see the dome being saved.

The City of Houston does not own the Astrodome.

Also, according to my analysis based upon cost estimates from a Chronicle article, the net present value of demolition is less than that of mothballing the facility indefinitely. Unless the site is to be redeveloped, it doesn't make any sense For the Sports Authority to demolish the facility.

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The City of Houston does not own the Astrodome.

Also, according to my analysis based upon cost estimates from a Chronicle article, the net present value of demolition is less than that of mothballing the facility indefinitely. Unless the site is to be redeveloped, it doesn't make any sense For the Sports Authority to demolish the facility.

I stand corrected. Who owns the Astrodome then?

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Hmmm, actually you are both incorrect. The Astrodome is owned by Harris County alone. HCHSA is a joint city/county entity.

I thought that it was the Sports Authority that was still paying down the debt from constructing the Astrodome, using proceeds from hotel taxes.

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I'm not clear that the sperm ever fertilized the egg that it could possibly be aborted, much less that it ever lived that it might die.

Ah, Dear Niche ... thou dost protest too much! Thy egg and sperm wilt camerge' du pe' without thee - spread across the dark of the moon - thus saving the said Astro-Dome by thy esparages!

Note: Old vine red Zin, chapter 6, verse 3; 5.

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I thought that it was the Sports Authority that was still paying down the debt from constructing the Astrodome, using proceeds from hotel taxes.

The HCHSA does not own the Astrodome, nor does it have any debt related to the Astrodome. Nobody had even dreamed of a sports authority at the time the Astrodome was constructed.

Harris County built the Astrodome and has always owned it.

The debt that remains on the Astrodome is not from its construction, but from the remodel and addition of seating capacity sometime around the mid-80s (not sure about the exact time-frame, but it was to keep the Oilers from moving to Jacksonville).

I am pretty sure the debt is being paid by Harris County general revenue, not by any dedicated revenue source (such as hotel taxes).

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Considering that the Astrodome has its own zipcode, and inner loop Houston is desperate for hotel space, I wish that they would reconsider the hotel idea. Astrodome could easily divide up into 1200 spacious rooms.

Turning it into a hotel makes way too much sense. How cool would it be to have a hotel with the ultimate atrium? You could actually extend the MetroRail into it, so people could just ride to downtown, the medical center, the Galleria, wherever.

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