South Main Innovation District in Midtown

[Houston19514 4653]

2 hours ago, houstontexasjack said:

Midtown Terrace Suites are in the ROW for the trenching of I-69 per the most recent schematics and would be taken as part of that under the present schematics:

 

http://www.ih45northandmore.com/docs13/04_NHHIP_Seg3_I-69_RollPlot_PH_1-2.pdf

 

 

 

It looks to me like the ROW would only require taking one wing (or perhaps only part of one wing) of one building of the Midtown Terrace Suites/Travis Street Plaza veterans housing complex.

 

1 hour ago, clutchcity94 said:

This is interesting - thanks for linking to it.

 

What does the “A” symbol represent at the intersection of Roseland St & Woodrow St?

 

Will the highway overpass at Richmond just east of Jack St always be there? Or are they planning on trenching that at some point as well?

 

The "A" is indicating the location and direction of the section view shown to the left.

[ChannelTwoNews 2924]

From Saturday...

 

 

 

[Houston19514 4653]

Glass is going up on the south side of the building!   (Sorry, no pic; I was driving)

[moistbrisket 62]

Got it. 

 

 

[moistbrisket 62]

[HNathoo 1186]

[Highrise Tower 33385]

[moistbrisket 62]

 

 

[HoustonIsHome 1627]

That looks slick

[Highrise Tower 33385]

[phillip_white 1913]

Crew on site today. Windows are going up quick!

 

 

[hindesky 46750]

[por favor gracias 627]

This is my favorite project in Houston right now.

[HoustonIsHome 1627]

I think I'm more excited about the potential for this area that the collective project may bring than this particular building itself. Yes the Sears building may have stood crumbling for the next 30 years so I'm glad that it is being made use of but personally I think the Reno is underwelming. It is quite different but to me not all that great.

 

For me Texas Tower, the Preston and a handful of other projects around town are my favorite.

 

With over a dozen blocks flanking a transit center WITH a rail way stop this project should be grand. Hopefully it doesn't go the way off Regency Square, Hardy Yards, Downtown Post Office site, Houston Pavilions or the granddaddy of them all- Houston Center.

 

Crossing my fingers that we get a few residential towers built from this project. 

[por favor gracias 627]

Renderings are rarely spot on, but with Rice University owning the land, I think it's safe to say this area won't get the Hotel Alessandra treatment.

 

I don't really care if residential towers come out of this project as much as the area turning into a destination. It'll take years, no doubt, but this part of town has so much potential and I'm not sure there are any better hands to be in than Rice's.

[HNathoo 1186]

https://www.chron.com/business/real-estate/article/The-Ion-on-track-to-open-in-Q1-in-former-Sears-15382356.php

 

The redevelopment of the former Sears department store in Midtown into a center for innovation is set to open by the end of March 2021, possibly with a full tenant roster, a developer of the project said in a recent interview.

"If all negotiations we are in right now end positively, we will have a full building," said Ryan LeVasseur, managing director of direct real estate with Rice Management Co., which is leading and financing the $100 million project called The Ion. The company, which manages Rice University’s $6.3 billion endowment, launched the redevelopment last summer.

[X.R. 1122]

Well, tech and startups are faring better than other companies during this time so I guess I shouldn't too surprised that they would have a full house but...I'm still pretty surprised that they may indeed be full upon open. That would be incredible and definitely exceeds my expectations for Houston's appetite for this development. 

 

Also, from the article it seems that these commitments have been there for a little bit, thus sort of confirming our thoughts that the CEO stepped down because she had gotten them to a positive place and wanted to take on some other challenge. Hats off to Rice, the Ion is on schedule and packed!

[JBTX 827]

Woah, did we make it from Monday until mid afternoon on Thursday for a new comment on this? That's gotta be a new record for "longest time without an update."

 

All jokes aside, that's a good update, thanks for sharing. I really do hope this becomes the bastion of development that Rice and the City plan for it to be.

[nate4l1f3 1122]

Take that Amazon!!

[ZRFkris 316]

I can’t wait until the the highway project correlates with this project. Next level, plus a double whammy for the Museum Park neighborhood. 

[Highrise Tower 33385]

[monarch 3797]

 

^^^ this development is well on it's way to becoming a SHOWPLACE.  happy 4th of july everyone!

[hindesky 46750]

Mock up in progress.

[CREguy13 1887]

On 7/2/2020 at 3:29 PM, HNathoo said:

https://www.chron.com/business/real-estate/article/The-Ion-on-track-to-open-in-Q1-in-former-Sears-15382356.php

 

The redevelopment of the former Sears department store in Midtown into a center for innovation is set to open by the end of March 2021, possibly with a full tenant roster, a developer of the project said in a recent interview.

"If all negotiations we are in right now end positively, we will have a full building," said Ryan LeVasseur, managing director of direct real estate with Rice Management Co., which is leading and financing the $100 million project called The Ion. The company, which manages Rice University’s $6.3 billion endowment, launched the redevelopment last summer.

I wonder if the demand exceeded Rice's expectations? Are they revising their timeline for the next phase to break ground sooner than anticipated and will the project be larger in scale than originally planned?  

[Moore713 789]

31 minutes ago, CREguy13 said:

I wonder if the demand exceeded Rice's expectations? Are they revising their timeline for the next phase to break ground sooner than anticipated and will the project be larger in scale than originally planned?  

If this is true, this could be a even bigger  boom for the area.  How long before  other businesses  start to pop up to support. Stores, restaurants  etc etc.... If all hold stead ... in 5 to 7 years this could be a booming  corridor 

[X.R. 1122]

@hindesky is that the mockup for the garage? If so, I guess this and that garage by Hermann park where they put that vine wall facing the park will be the two "green" garages near the city core. 

 

@CREguy13 Would not be surprised if demand exceeded expectation, given the comments. People within the tech industry in Houston on this forum had initial doubts re: occupancy, with good reason, to me, given Houston's relative lack of tech startup dollars when compared to Dallas/Austin. But, anecdotally, I've had friends come to Houston to interview at the medical/medical device incubator and say that those are pretty competitive as space was limited back in early 2019. So, maybe? @Moore713 yeah, was thinking the same thing this morning as I went by since this place sticks out like a sore thumb when compared to the stores in front of and behind it. You'd need a whole ecosystem there (small gyms, to go food, CVS 😝, etc) to support and they have alot of space to work with. I used to go to the barber shop pre-covid, hope Spot sees business from this. 

Edited July 6, 2020 by X.R.

[hindesky 46750]

2 hours ago, X.R. said:

@hindesky is that the mockup for the garage? If so, I guess this and that garage by Hermann park where they put that vine wall facing the park will be the two "green" garages near the city core. 

 

@CREguy13 Would not be surprised if demand exceeded expectation, given the comments. People within the tech industry in Houston on this forum had initial doubts re: occupancy, with good reason, to me, given Houston's relative lack of tech startup dollars when compared to Dallas/Austin. But, anecdotally, I've had friends come to Houston to interview at the medical/medical device incubator and say that those are pretty competitive as space was limited back in early 2019. So, maybe? @Moore713 yeah, was thinking the same thing this morning as I went by since this place sticks out like a sore thumb when compared to the stores in front of and behind it. You'd need a whole ecosystem there (small gyms, to go food, CVS 😝, etc) to support and they have alot of space to work with. I used to go to the barber shop pre-covid, hope Spot sees business from this. 

I'm just guessing but I think the parking garage, I don't see where it could fit in with the old Sears building.

[hindesky 46750]

Went down a rabbit hole looking for renderings of the parking garage, found these. Not sure if they've been posted before.

https://www.virtualbx.com/construction-preview/houston-rice-universitys-ion-campus-revealed-as-16-block-build-out/

https://www.virtualbx.com/construction-preview/houston-rice-university-proceeds-with-parking-garage-retail-building-for-the-ion-project/

 

First pic looks kind of like the mock up with all the plants.

 

Edited July 7, 2020 by hindesky

[BeerNut 2571]

Someone on Nextdoor just posted that Fiesta will close Friday.

[midtowndweller 281]

7 hours ago, BeerNut said:

Someone on Nextdoor just posted that Fiesta will close Friday.

Best news all year!

[clutchcity94 385]

8 hours ago, BeerNut said:

Someone on Nextdoor just posted that Fiesta will close Friday.

Take Jack in the Box with it!

[Houston19514 4653]

Why is the closing of a grocery store good news?

 

[Moore713 789]

7 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

Why is the closing of a grocery store good news?

 

So they can get some pretentious overly priced  store in there...duh.

[X.R. 1122]

10 hours ago, BeerNut said:

Someone on Nextdoor just posted that Fiesta will close Friday.

 

Damn. Their meat outside of their shredded taco meat sucks, and their bakery goods sometimes are moldy within two days of purchasing, but they have great produce and seafood. During COVID they have provided a fairly stress-free shopping experience, not a lot of people and they have great selection for ethnics foods. Good beer selection too (arguably better than that overpriced Randall's).

 

 Also, when you go there and hear people who clearly know each other for years call out to each other and inquire about their families you realize that the Fiesta means alot to the people who have been in this area for a while. That churches offers gross chicken (popeyes is miles better) but its cheap, and the line on Saturdays for the cashing checks/issuing money orders is robust. Whatever Rice does, I hope the figure out a way to open a small grocer or something with decently priced food. I know based on interviews its unclear where they stand on bringing another grocer in, but there is clearly a community need that this Fiesta met.

 

But yeah, that Jack in the Box sucks. That needs to go. 

[Avossos 2285]

1 minute ago, X.R. said:

 

Damn. Their meat outside of their shredded taco meat sucks, and their bakery goods sometimes are moldy within two days of purchasing, but they have great produce and seafood. During COVID they have provided a fairly stress-free shopping experience, not a lot of people and they have great selection for ethnics foods. Good beer selection too (arguably better than that overpriced Randall's).

 

 Also, when you go there and hear people who clearly know each other for years call out to each other and inquire about their families you realize that the Fiesta means alot to the people who have been in this area for a while. That churches offers gross chicken (popeyes is miles better) but its cheap, and the line on Saturdays for the cashing checks/issuing money orders is robust. Whatever Rice does, I hope the figure out a way to open a small grocer or something with decently priced food. I know based on interviews its unclear where they stand on bringing another grocer in, but there is clearly a community need that this Fiesta met.

 

But yeah, that Jack in the Box sucks. That needs to go. 

 

They absolutely need a grocer here. We need Aldi's or Trader Joe's to be incorporated into these developments. Why aren't urban Aldi's a thing?

[clutchcity94 385]

1 minute ago, Avossos said:

 

They absolutely need a grocer here. We need Aldi's or Trader Joe's to be incorporated into these developments. Why aren't urban Aldi's a thing?

Given where land values are going with this development, you’re far more likely to see a Central Market here than an Aldi’s.

[clutchcity94 385]

With this development turning a dilapidated area into what many hope it will become, are there other examples in Houston where something similar happened? For example, was Rice Village or Highland Village ever considered a seedy part of town? We’ve seen the inverse before (Sharpstown in the 80s), but I can’t think of any other revitalization examples.

[Avossos 2285]

1 minute ago, clutchcity94 said:

With this development turning a dilapidated area into what many hope it will become, are there other examples in Houston where something similar happened? For example, was Rice Village or Highland Village ever considered a seedy part of town? We’ve seen the inverse before (Sharpstown in the 80s), but I can’t think of any other revitalization examples.

 

good question...

 

Montrose was definitely considered seedy... So was the Heights. Both of which are on their way to be very 'high end'.

[clutchcity94 385]

7 minutes ago, Avossos said:

 

good question...

 

Montrose was definitely considered seedy... So was the Heights. Both of which are on their way to be very 'high end'.

Good point. The area around The Ion, though, seems more extreme. It was literally one of, if not THE MOST, unattractive corners of the city up until last year. It was essentially Houston’s very own version of E. Hastings Street (Vancouver) or Hamsterdam (The Wire reference).

Edited July 7, 2020 by clutchcity94

[Texasota 2970]

No it wasn't. At least not in the last 20 years. Compared to how completely bombed out Lyons in Fifth Ward, or Dowling in Third Ward were after having been bustling, successful commercial corridors, at the least the south side of Midtown had a functioning grocery store. 

 

I do think this part of town was a huge waste of potential, but that was true of most of midtown and downtown. Honestly it still is. 

[Amlaham 198]

I think people are happy fiesta is closing because of how it looks. It's an eyesore driving down 59, its a building on half the block and surface parking on the other half, this structure literally belongs in the suburbs. It has nothing to do with the fact that its a "fiesta" and everything to do with how it looks. The closing of the store is "good news" because 1. It's shows that this major development is moving forward 2. The area itself will look a lot more appealing once everything is done.  How are you going to be annoyed that this is closing but want this project 😂 fiesta isn't a small mom and pop store, if they wanted to downsize and stay in the area, they could. 

Edited July 7, 2020 by Amlaham
Grammer

[Avossos 2285]

8 minutes ago, Amlaham said:

I think people are happy fiesta is closing because of how it looks. It's an eyesore driving down 59, its a building on half the block and surface parking on the other half, this structure literally belongs in the suburbs. It has nothing to do with the fact that its a "fiesta" and everything to do with how it looks. The closing of the store is "good news" because 1. It's shows that this major development is moving forward 2. The area itself will look a lot more appealing once everything is done.  How are you going to be annoyed that this is closing but want this project 😂 fiesta isn't a small mom and pop store, if they wanted to downsize and stay in the area, they could. 

 

 

Fiesta is a great idea with poor execution. I think they have a great market, but haven't been able to capitalize on it. I am hopeful they figure out how to grow and make money. No reason why they cant attract a variety of customers.

[clutchcity94 385]

The elephant in the room is this — what will happen to our Shipley Donuts?!

[tigereye 1843]

12 hours ago, BeerNut said:

Someone on Nextdoor just posted that Fiesta will close Friday.

 
True story bro. 

 

https://abc13.com/fiesta-coronavirus-mart-closing-in-houston-location/6304620/

Edited July 7, 2020 by tigereye

[houstontexasjack 2359]

1 hour ago, clutchcity94 said:

The elephant in the room is this — what will happen to our Shipley Donuts?!

There’s a site that was getting permitted at Almeda and Blodgett for a new Shipley’s. Not sure if that’s connected.

[phillip_white 1913]

2 hours ago, Amlaham said:

I think people are happy fiesta is closing because of how it looks. It's an eyesore driving down 59, its a building on half the block and surface parking on the other half, this structure literally belongs in the suburbs. It has nothing to do with the fact that its a "fiesta" and everything to do with how it looks. The closing of the store is "good news" because 1. It's shows that this major development is moving forward 2. The area itself will look a lot more appealing once everything is done.  How are you going to be annoyed that this is closing but want this project 😂 fiesta isn't a small mom and pop store, if they wanted to downsize and stay in the area, they could. 

 

You think people are excited a business (that is surrounded by empty parking lots) is closing because it has a parking lot? If this was 5-10 years from now when Rice has completed developed every other phase of construction, I could see that. This closing will only add to the emptiness in the neighborhood and remove an affordable grocery option for a large swath of central Houston. I understand that negotiations were not successful, but this is not a good turn of events for any stakeholder (Rice included).

[Big E 139]

47 minutes ago, phillip_white said:

 

You think people are excited a business (that is surrounded by empty parking lots) is closing because it has a parking lot? If this was 5-10 years from now when Rice has completed developed every other phase of construction, I could see that. This closing will only add to the emptiness in the neighborhood and remove an affordable grocery option for a large swath of central Houston. I understand that negotiations were not successful, but this is not a good turn of events for any stakeholder (Rice included).

 

Isn't there another grocery store near Midtown? Pretty sure there is. Maybe they are doing more brisk business?

[clutchcity94 385]

Hard to believe that The Susanne apartment complex in Montrose was a Fiesta not long ago. How times change. This transformation will be even more drastic. 

[Houston19514 4653]

2 hours ago, phillip_white said:

 

You think people are excited a business (that is surrounded by empty parking lots) is closing because it has a parking lot? If this was 5-10 years from now when Rice has completed developed every other phase of construction, I could see that. This closing will only add to the emptiness in the neighborhood and remove an affordable grocery option for a large swath of central Houston. I understand that negotiations were not successful, but this is not a good turn of events for any stakeholder (Rice included).

 

Quite right.  My understanding is that Fiesta's lease had expired and that RIce "begged" them to stay.  Hopefully, Rice can accelerate their plans for the Fiesta block (without delaying their plans for other blocks...).

[Fortune 891]

A Target would be great in this area!