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Found some recent photos of inside with the floors cut out and skylight/tarp installed.       

Fiesta to become "Greentown Labs" a green energy incubator.    

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13 hours ago, rechlin said:

The green fabric is really taking a beating, if you compare each of the photos.  Now one large section is completely gone:

 

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It did look rough, but maybe they’re removing each section as they finish punching out the holes behind them?

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Treated as a transit corridor? That sounds unusual, no? I don't imagine there will be anyone there to fight the variance request¬†ūüėā.

 

They blow out holes in the Ion building and now needing the variance for the lot, do we know the timeline for this entire thing? I thought it was like 2021 or something. I would imagine building a garage wouldn't take very long, and the retail, depending on what it is, would benefit those apartments that are next door to that lot.

 

 

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"To allow part of the building in the visibility triangle at the corner of Fannin and Cleburne"
Does this mean the parking garage will be situated towards the northern portion of the block, or will it cover the entire block?
Wouldn't having the garage as close to the Wheeler Transit Center as possible make sense?

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On 9/9/2019 at 12:38 PM, dbigtex56 said:

"To allow part of the building in the visibility triangle at the corner of Fannin and Cleburne"
Does this mean the parking garage will be situated towards the northern portion of the block, or will it cover the entire block?
Wouldn't having the garage as close to the Wheeler Transit Center as possible make sense?

It would if you didn't want people using the rail. I'm sure the parking will be for others who drive to work.

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3 minutes ago, bobruss said:

It would if you didn't want people using the rail. I'm sure the parking will be for others who drive to work.

 

I was thinking it would have the opposite effect.
For those who are driving in from the suburbs, it would offer a convenient, centrally located place to park. They could then use the rail for in-town destinations, an increasing number of which are adjacent to the Red Line.
Wasn't that one of the selling points of the parking garage at MidMain (HCC/Ensemble Theater stop)?

 

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10 hours ago, dbigtex56 said:

For those who are driving in from the suburbs, it would offer a convenient, centrally located place to park. They could then use the rail for in-town destinations, an increasing number of which are adjacent to the Red Line.

 

One problem with that is the southbound freeway exit to Fannin from IH-69 is being eliminated as part of the freeway rebuild, so parking in this area becomes a lot less attractive for people driving in from the suburbs.

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On 9/9/2019 at 12:38 PM, dbigtex56 said:

Wouldn't having the garage as close to the Wheeler Transit Center as possible make sense?

In my opinion, putting a parking garage between Fannin and San Jacinto (i.e. where it’s planned) makes the most sense. Those are the two major thoroughfares serving this area and provide the most efficient traffic flow into a parking structure.  As for proximity to the transit center, I don’t think that it is important.   The parking garage and the light rail transit center serve totally different segments of the population with different needs.  The garage, in particular, will be to serve people driving in to work at the Ion, not for people using it as a park-and-ride facility to access downtown or the TMC by train.  That said, if someone WOULD choose to use the garage as a park-and-ride, the site where they plan to construct it is only two blocks from the Red Line.  Not very far at all.

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1 hour ago, rechlin said:

 

One problem with that is the southbound freeway exit to Fannin from IH-69 is being eliminated as part of the freeway rebuild, so parking in this area becomes a lot less attractive for people driving in from the suburbs.

 

Will there be a new exit on the southbound portion of IH-69 after the rebuild if Fannin is no longer there? Or will the next available exit be all the way at Shepherd?

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Looking at the current segment 3 schematics, there will be a new exit from southbound 59/69 to Almeda; that should replace the Fannin exit for going to Midtown from 59/69.  Now if you're coming from 288 NB, you will no longer be able to exit 59-S -> Fannin to get to Midtown, and I can't tell what the exit strategy for 288 is going to be http://www.ih45northandmore.com/docs11/08_NHHIP_Seg3_SH288_RollPlot_FEIS_1-1.pdf

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My question is if they do go with the continuation of the below ground 59/69 how do they go under the rail lines without causing timely delays for the rail during this construction.

I can't imagine how they will structurally support the rail lines and trains, while digging underneath.

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12 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

 

So... they're making it shorter? Or perhaps will build a different structure on top.

 

I was wondering this too, once I realized they weren’t just punching holes for windows, but starting to chip away the roof of that portion. Had to revert back to the renderings.. looks like that floor will be removed, for a flat roof across the whole building.

Could have been a cool indoor/outdoor type rooftop terrace.

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On 9/29/2019 at 4:24 PM, hindesky said:

Why not just start from ground zero? Seems like they're tearing everything down, what's going to be left of the old building?

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I thought the same with the Grigg's Boat Store in Montrose. They gutted the hell out of it, but then completely transformed it back to what it would have looked like before Grigg's. That's the same thing here. Sears stripped this building down so much that the original shell is the only thing worthy of saving. Use it as a base frame, and then bring back the ornament on top of that.

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The photos are all taken from the southern view. If you view from the east west or north you realize they have saved the most modern aspects of the building. I would also imagine that hideous brick will with get taken down or covered.

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