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10 hours ago, jmitch94 said:

That is some straight up third world demo right there. 

No, that's second world. Third world would have the second machine holding up another machine, which would sit on top of some sketch bamboo scaffolding.

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It's more stable than it looks... :ph34r:

 

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Why didn’t they just tear the damn thing down and start over? What, if any, of the architectural elements of the building remain?

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21 hours ago, danielsonr said:

Why didn’t they just tear the damn thing down and start over? What, if any, of the architectural elements of the building remain?

 

Tell me about it! I REALLY dislike the hybrid plan they have for this project. Either restore and repurpose the building as it was, or build something totally new. 

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I'm still wondering why they didn't level this building and start over from scratch because it looks like they would be farther along if they did.

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That second picture looks as if it is a library (pretty sure it's not), but it made me think that a library would do better here than its location on the north-east side of Downtown.  I see more pedestrian traffic with residential nearby, and it's location off the light rail would make it ideal.

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44 minutes ago, por favor gracias said:

Thanks for the update, Urbannizer...looks great.

 

I wonder if there's anything substantive (yet) to that taller building in the background of the 3rd picture?


Yeah. Classic Ghost Tower. 

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Interesting mix going on. Modernist in terms of structure. 60's chic in terms of interiors. Contemporary design in terms of landscape and ideas. Build it!

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20 minutes ago, Luminare said:

60's chic in terms of interiors.

 

More like 30s deco with the plants someone stole from a Chotchkie's - but it does have flair. :ph34r:

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What is the time frame on all of this? 10 years? Thats almost impossible to imagine with the way that area is now. I finally know how some of the older members on the forum feel!

 

I like the synergy of this with the montrose collective building. Both incorporating impressive, by Houston standards, amounts of green in and around the buildings. The modernity of these designs almost feel like they are somehow even more modern than the stuff going up in TMC3. 

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44 minutes ago, X.R. said:

What is the time frame on all of this? 10 years? Thats almost impossible to imagine with the way that area is now. I finally know how some of the older members on the forum feel!

 

I like the synergy of this with the montrose collective building. Both incorporating impressive, by Houston standards, amounts of green in and around the buildings. The modernity of these designs almost feel like they are somehow even more modern than the stuff going up in TMC3. 

 

I think part of it is that the new TMC stuff is so large in scale that the details are going to be a bit low-res for now. I'm looking forward to getting more indepth detail info like we now are getting with The Ion.

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8 hours ago, X.R. said:

What is the time frame on all of this? 10 years? Thats almost impossible to imagine with the way that area is now. I finally know how some of the older members on the forum feel!

 

I like the synergy of this with the montrose collective building. Both incorporating impressive, by Houston standards, amounts of green in and around the buildings. The modernity of these designs almost feel like they are somehow even more modern than the stuff going up in TMC3. 

Also noticed that with the Medistar Tower that's planned next to the new Intercontinental/Latitude development. 

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They had 4 of those rotating concrete trucks parked there early this morning. It seems like they were sending concrete up onto the top of the building since they had one of those daddy long legs-concrete mover that I've seen in pics of other construction sites. They've been moving super quick, rain or shine. They really want to meet that deadline.

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City to negotiate community benefits agreement for anticipated innovation district

 

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Mayor Sylvester Turner has pledged the city will strike a deal ensuring that Rice University’s planned innovation district in Midtown provides benefits to the outskirts too, a victory for students and community groups who’d banded together over fears the venture would negatively affect the Third Ward.

 

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12 minutes ago, BeerNut said:

 

Ugh. Makes me want to vomit...

 

This quote tells you everything you need to know right here:
 

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Wickerson called the fact young people were able to meaningfully challenge existing systems “empowering.”

 

These kids have officially become cultists.

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13 minutes ago, BeerNut said:

“Icken said the city has twice previously orchestrated community benefits agreements, both related to the city’s tax abatement. The plan to negotiate an agreement with the Rice Management Co. is unique in that the school has not asked for public assistance with the development of the Ion, Icken said. The hope is that residents in surrounding under-served communities, like the Third Ward, will benefit in some way“


I hardly see this as a cave by Rice. An agreement that is “to be negotiated” is a playground. At a minimum, there’s a healthy opportunity to extract nondisparagement provisions.  I also think, from the quote above, Rice could negotiate support for items it might want, such as abandonment of right-of-way on which the public would get a say, as part of any agreement. Support for the TOD ordinance—all that’s in play.

 

This gives Rice a chance to get some good faith PR. 

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On 1/21/2020 at 8:36 PM, Moore713 said:

This project displaces nothing. 

 

I beg to differ! It displaces the free parking lot where I used to park and then take the train into Downtown! 😁

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Such agreements are negotiated to ensure that a developer delivers community benefits, like hiring, inclusion of affordable housing or funding for community programs, in exchange for residents’ support of the project and developments in or near their community, according to the Kinder Institute for Urban Research’s Third Ward Policy and Program Landscape Report.

 

This main thing I could see helping is the hiring part. If this project displaced houses or other community centers then I get it but this is taking away Sears and surface lots. The benefit is pushing out drug dealers. Though who knows where they will chill now. Fiesta would have been seen as a loss but the new HEB in the Third Ward should help offset that for residents. 

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I was among the why didn't they just tear the darn thing down and start from scratch crowd until I went past this building Friday and saw how opening the southern exposure let's in so much natural light.

 

It looks like a completely different building on that side but I understand now why it is so much of a frankenbuilding. Makes sense since the area across the street is open Park area for the foreseeable future to have that side opened up.

 

I'm itching to see construction start on other lots. 

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1 hour ago, CaptainJilliams said:

I tend to visit several different development forums outside of HAIF, one of which is for the city of Nashville. Now not to get too much into the details, their new mayor has been somewhat anti-development. Recent reports suggested that he may have scared off Microsoft from building a campus in the city. A trusted source from that page posted this information relating to Houston:

 

So I asked a colleague who is much closer to things in Nashville. Colleague said that Microsoft was scared away by Cooper's approach to Asurion. They are looking for an urban campus similar to Amazon. One place mentioned... they're looking at an area in Houston near the largest medical centers there. Their mayor is kicking butt with recruiting. 

 

If there's an ounce of truth in this report, my best guess would be they are looking at the Innovation District? Does that sound right? 

 

Would be really epic if true.

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3 hours ago, CaptainJilliams said:

I tend to visit several different development forums outside of HAIF, one of which is for the city of Nashville. Now not to get too much into the details, their new mayor has been somewhat anti-development. Recent reports suggested that he may have scared off Microsoft from building a campus in the city. A trusted source from that page posted this information relating to Houston:

 

So I asked a colleague who is much closer to things in Nashville. Colleague said that Microsoft was scared away by Cooper's approach to Asurion. They are looking for an urban campus similar to Amazon. One place mentioned... they're looking at an area in Houston near the largest medical centers there. Their mayor is kicking butt with recruiting. 

 

If there's an ounce of truth in this report, my best guess would be they are looking at the Innovation District? Does that sound right? 

 

Don't forget about the UT land that's for sale south of the Med Center.

 

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8 hours ago, CaptainJilliams said:

I tend to visit several different development forums outside of HAIF, one of which is for the city of Nashville. Now not to get too much into the details, their new mayor has been somewhat anti-development. Recent reports suggested that he may have scared off Microsoft from building a campus in the city. A trusted source from that page posted this information relating to Houston:

 

So I asked a colleague who is much closer to things in Nashville. Colleague said that Microsoft was scared away by Cooper's approach to Asurion. They are looking for an urban campus similar to Amazon. One place mentioned... they're looking at an area in Houston near the largest medical centers there. Their mayor is kicking butt with recruiting. 

 

If there's an ounce of truth in this report, my best guess would be they are looking at the Innovation District? Does that sound right? 

 

Now thats some juicy info. I'll be sure to have the popcorn ready if and when they make the announcement.

 

By the way, any way you could elaborate on these other forums? I'm genuinely interested in see what other cities got going on.

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