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You can check the "Perennial - Post Oak topic for the more recent updates on the 2200 Post Oak site.

Most recent update is that the owners of the site filed some paperwork with the city to allow the building line to be closer to the road than normal regulations would allow. That was right at the turn of the new year.

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I am not sure of any of the details. I just heard that an office project at this address was in the works with funding and a teneant in place. The people that I talked to were being all 007 about it.

hmm... well that's good to hear bc it coincides with some chatter i heard last week (although i have no specifics). i'm pretty sure the hines/blvd place office tower has its lead tenant. and i could have very easily confused the lead tenant i mentioned for the redstone/houstonian bldg with the redstone/perennial bldg.

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http://blogs.chron.com/primeproperty/2011/04/bbva_to_consolidate_offices_in.html

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i initially thought they (BBVA) were going into redstone's proposed 2nd tower at the houstonian but thought even then i was likely mistaken. no word on the rest of the mixed-use development.

and if i were a betting man i'd expect another large tower announcement on post oak in the near future.

i've also heard not to hold your breath on skanska...

feel free to merge with the other thread(s) on this topic. just thought it was worth a new one.

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I am confused by this... I am assuming this will be the office tower portion of Redstone's mixed-use proposal? Or, has Redstone dumped their plans for hotel, condo, and office space and settled on just another boxy office tower with a large parking garage?

As for Skanska's project, I've heard that they've received very little interest in their proposal. While it's a highly visible location, I don't believe it has feeder access which is a killer for a freeway fronted tower...

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I am confused by this... I am assuming this will be the office tower portion of Redstone's mixed-use proposal? Or, has Redstone dumped their plans for hotel, condo, and office space and settled on just another boxy office tower with a large parking garage?

Here is another source, this one is from Bizjournal- Houston and it states that the other tower, the residential's, and the hotel will also get built too along with this tower.

From Bizjournals.com/Houston:

The 20-story building is part of a redevelopment that is expected to include a second office building, a hotel with residences and parking garages.

Read more: BBVA Compass to anchor new Galleria-area office tower | Houston Business Journal

Read here: http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2011/04/13/bbva.html

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Wow, no offense meant to Editor, but is HAIF dying? An announcement that a big project like this is breaking ground in an area like the galleria and nobody is talking about it? What is going on? A few years ago this topic would have already been on it's second or third page.

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Wow, no offense meant to Editor, but is HAIF dying? An announcement that a big project like this is breaking ground in an area like the galleria and nobody is talking about it? What is going on? A few years ago this topic would have already been on it's second or third page.

yeah, i thought the exact same thing... strange to see such little activity. this is the type of news this board used to eat up.

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Wow, no offense meant to Editor, but is HAIF dying? An announcement that a big project like this is breaking ground in an area like the galleria and nobody is talking about it? What is going on? A few years ago this topic would have already been on it's second or third page.

ha, i'm definitely pumped about this development, especially because my office is on Post Oak. However, I would really like to see some mixed use IN downtown or closer to downtown, like Regent Square. With the rails being delayed, this area will need tons of mixed use to become somewhat walkable. However, if this thing went up in downtown, which is already walkable, it would be much more interesting, to me at least.

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yeah, i thought the exact same thing... strange to see such little activity. this is the type of news this board used to eat up.

It may be just me, but I've become a lot more weary on anything going up these days. You can call it the recession blues, because I won't be excited until I see the movement of mass people and dirt. There seems to have been waay to many let downs among projects in Houston in the past few years and I think it might have gotten to people's architectural spirit.

I do however see the potential for this building to wake people up and restore some optimism. These days I am just lacking that optimism when I see a rendering and am told/read it's going up.

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It's nothing out of the ordinary. A 20 story building will be less than spectacular in a sea of skyscrapers on Post Oak. I think the forum is 'dying' simply because we are all tired of these fabulous renderings that come out and ultimately the project gets cancelled or the rendering is scaled down considerably. As much as I like Dallas, I hate that when they propose something, 90% of the time, they break ground and build it. Their uptown is booming right now---evidence by the numerous of cranes on their skyline.

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It's nothing out of the ordinary. A 20 story building will be less than spectacular in a sea of skyscrapers on Post Oak. I think the forum is 'dying' simply because we are all tired of these fabulous renderings that come out and ultimately the project gets cancelled or the rendering is scaled down considerably. As much as I like Dallas, I hate that when they propose something, 90% of the time, they break ground and build it. Their uptown is booming right now---evidence by the numerous of cranes on their skyline.

Yeah, but a lot of those buildings sit empty. Condo/office vacancy in that part of Dallas is high, due to the speculative building that they do there. In Houston, there does not seem to be as much speculation. Oh, and Dallas has zoning. That's the only spot in Dallas where highrises can go up (for the most part). In Houston, buildings go up all over the place.

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Yeah, but a lot of those buildings sit empty. Condo/office vacancy in that part of Dallas is high, due to the speculative building that they do there. In Houston, there does not seem to be as much speculation. Oh, and Dallas has zoning. That's the only spot in Dallas where highrises can go up (for the most part). In Houston, buildings go up all over the place.

You make a valid point about the zoning. Makes sense. I just wish there was a way to improve Houston's image as a clean, fun, cosmopolitan town. When people think of Houston, IMO, they think dirty, trashy, boring, congested and the delicate flower step child. When people think Dallas, IMO, they think glitzy, trendy and relatively clean. Anyway back to the building, I think it's okay, just nothing spectacular.

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Wow, no offense meant to Editor, but is HAIF dying? An announcement that a big project like this is breaking ground in an area like the galleria and nobody is talking about it? What is going on? A few years ago this topic would have already been on it's second or third page.

I think that one of the problems is that there are three seperate topics out there that, from what I can tell, are all bout the same project. BBVA, The Perennial, and 2200 Post Oak. Put them together and you probably have 3 pages worth.

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What the hell is so exciting about Dallas anyway? It has bigger Jumbotrons? It's a lot more boring than Houston. It's dirty and trashy too. Try driving around east, south, and west Dallas or anywhere outside that 1 square mile radius just north of downtown. BTW, there are more cranes in the Texas Medical Center in Houston than uptown Dallas right now. Parts of Houston are booming just as much as anywhere else in the country including Dallas.

THERE! I SAID IT.

The reason this forum is so quiet right now is that everyone has become jaded by watching all the cool proposals fall by the wayside. When things pick up again, this forum will spring back to life.

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What the hell is so exciting about Dallas anyway? It has bigger Jumbotrons? It's a lot more boring than Houston. It's dirty and trashy too. Try driving around east, south, and west Dallas or anywhere outside that 1 square mile radius just north of downtown. BTW, there are more cranes in the Texas Medical Center in Houston than uptown Dallas right now. Parts of Houston are booming just as much as anywhere else in the country including Dallas.

THERE! I SAID IT.

The reason this forum is so quiet right now is that everyone has become jaded by watching all the cool proposals fall by the wayside. When things pick up again, this forum will spring back to life.

Overall, it seems like it has been quiet for a couple of weeks. I just figure quite a few people are busy.

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Wow, no offense meant to Editor, but is HAIF dying? An announcement that a big project like this is breaking ground in an area like the galleria and nobody is talking about it? What is going on? A few years ago this topic would have already been on it's second or third page.

....ummm, have you been outside lately? i can't find anyone i do not already have plans with, cuz everybody is OUT and ABOUT! ......and it's only 20 stories. if it were 40 or so, we'd be tearing up the phones checkin' in.

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....ummm, have you been outside lately? i can't find anyone i do not already have plans with, cuz everybody is OUT and ABOUT! ......and it's only 20 stories. if it were 40 or so, we'd be tearing up the phones checkin' in.

It's on Post Oak, mixed-use, adds to galleria walkability and the only office/mixed-use tower going up since the downturn in a recession that's not getting any better, possibly worse.

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I don't think that low interest in this project is particularly surprising. The majority of the people on this forum have high interest in construction that occur in Downtown/Midtown and the immediate areas surrounding. TMC has been booming for years now, but that construction has never generated high post counts either.

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I don't think that low interest in this project is particularly surprising. The majority of the people on this forum have high interest in construction that occur in Downtown/Midtown and the immediate areas surrounding. TMC has been booming for years now, but that construction has never generated high post counts either.

I think it's all about the location of the post. Personally speaking, I rarely look at the other threads on here except 'The Woodlands and North side" being that that is where I am located. Outside of that, I always look for big projects in the 'going up' section.

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Maybe it has been quiet because everyone in the real estate industry is busy right now.....

Things are looking good for Houston right now. This project is going to happen (although it looks as if Skanska won't), and Downtown is gaining steam. I wouldn't be surprised if Skanska makes a play downtown or somewhere else in the city. That company has a lot of money and is dedicated to making a move in the Houston market. We all know Hines isn't shy about developing in Houston, and I think that second tower on Main will happen within the next 12-18 months.

Everyone needs to stop the pity party.

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Maybe it has been quiet because everyone in the real estate industry is busy right now.....

Things are looking good for Houston right now. This project is going to happen (although it looks as if Skanska won't), and Downtown is gaining steam. I wouldn't be surprised if Skanska makes a play downtown or somewhere else in the city. That company has a lot of money and is dedicated to making a move in the Houston market. We all know Hines isn't shy about developing in Houston, and I think that second tower on Main will happen within the next 12-18 months.

Everyone needs to stop the pity party.

agreed, but i'm not sure it's so much a pity party for the thread as a misconception that inactivity for a thread doesn't necessarily mean the thread isn't being watched or read. .....and as i said earlier in the thread....it's great weather lately....not too many of us spending too much time in front of a pc.

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I don't think that low interest in this project is particularly surprising. The majority of the people on this forum have high interest in construction that occur in Downtown/Midtown and the immediate areas surrounding. TMC has been booming for years now, but that construction has never generated high post counts either.

Yeah, come on, this is outside the loop! It might as well be in San Antonio. I'm surprised LTAWACS only has one post complaining that it's not in midtown so far, there should be at least five of those by now. In all seriousness though, the rendering looks pretty nice and I think it will add to that part of Post Oak quite well, especially if they do end up building the other building(s?) that they talk about. With this and BLVD place hopefully getting some action soon, Uptown is going to have some really cool new buildings in the near future.

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Is it safe to assume this building is a "phase 1", or is the rest of the project scrapped? It's a great rendering, nice to see a building with different facades on the same face. Seems to be a modern trend for midrise buildings here in Houston.

From the Business Journal story linked above:

"The 20-story building is part of a redevelopment that is expected to include a second office building, a hotel with residences and parking garages."

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Some more information, will quote in pieces to address points separately.

Updated to 22 floors from previously stated 20 floors:

The building at 2200 Post Oak Blvd. will have 22 stories, not 20 as previously reported. Plans call for 312,000 square feet of rentable office space on 12 floors.

Read more: Redstone reveals plans for new BBVA building | Houston Business Journal

Ground Floor to feature restaurants:

The ground-floor retail space will feature two restaurants with outdoor seating, according to Kim Phillips, Redstone’s vice president of marketing and special projects.

Read more: Redstone reveals plans for new BBVA building | Houston Business Journal

Construction details:

Construction will start in May, and be finished in April 2013.

Read more: Redstone reveals plans for new BBVA building | Houston Business Journal

The rest:

The office building is part of a 6.5-acre project that’s called Perennial on Post Oak subdivision in documents submitted by the developer to the Houston Planning Commission. Project plans show a second office building, a hotel with residences and parking garages.

I also found out that the area around the construction site also will undergo some changes.

Read more: Redstone reveals plans for new BBVA building | Houston Business Journal

Link: http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/2011/04/other-changes-planned-around-new-bbva.html

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It looks like they did do a slight change to the design. I just wish it were taller but anything is almost better than nothing...

Will someone please quote what Gary and Coaster (same person?) said please. For some reason I can't see any of their posts anymore. Thanks. :)

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It looks like they did do a slight change to the design. I just wish it were taller but anything is almost better than nothing...

Will someone please quote what Gary and Coaster (same person?) said please. For some reason I can't see any of their posts anymore. Thanks. :)

If you are unable to see the posts of one or more particular users, it is likely that the user has blocked you.

As for Gary and Coaster, they are not the same person. They're not even in the same time zone.

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As I went to work this morning I saw an inflatable archway over the entrance to the site. I just got home and was able to run out and snap some pictures. The archway was gone, but on the wall facing post oak was a big new banner (sorry I couldn't get a clear shot without the sign and light pole. It was all I could do to get one without cars in the way) :

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Here are the three pictures close up:

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On the site itself were two guys with a trunk that looked like they were party rental people cleaning up after an event. Also, what appeared to be a ~15x15 foot sandbox was set up. I imagine that's what was used for the ceremonial groundbreaking earlier.

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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/7609172.html

The owner of the Houstonian Hotel, Club & Spa is planning to expand its hospitality brand near the Galleria on a site that will also be home to a high-rise office building and possibly a residential tower.

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the hotel project is contingent on financing but could be under way within a couple years.

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It is expected to be full service and have 150 to 250 rooms and a spa

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The building will also have two restaurants. Young said talks are under way with local eateries and some that don't have a presence in Houston. The hotel is expected to be built in the second phase of development, and a third will consist of another office tower or a residential building.

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HKS Architects designed the office building, which will be built by Manhattan Construction. The property has been designed to achieve gold certification from the U.S. Green Building Council's Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design program.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/7609172.html#ixzz1PMUGwjTQ
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/7609172.html

The owner of the Houstonian Hotel, Club & Spa is planning to expand its hospitality brand near the Galleria on a site that will also be home to a high-rise office building and possibly a residential tower.

...

the hotel project is contingent on financing but could be under way within a couple years.

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It is expected to be full service and have 150 to 250 rooms and a spa

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The building will also have two restaurants. Young said talks are under way with local eateries and some that don't have a presence in Houston. The hotel is expected to be built in the second phase of development, and a third will consist of another office tower or a residential building.

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HKS Architects designed the office building, which will be built by Manhattan Construction. The property has been designed to achieve gold certification from the U.S. Green Building Council's Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design program.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/7609172.html#ixzz1PMUGwjTQ
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"BBVA Compass marked the official start of construction on its new corporate office building last week with an official groundbreaking ceremony. The 22-story, 312k SF LEED Gold building will centralize BBVA’s local executives, multiple business areas, and staff units under a single roof. The bank will occupy 150k SF and six floors. Redstone Companies Real Estate purchased the land in the early ‘90s and demolished the long-standing Compass Bank building in ’09. Redstone CEO Steve Lerner says it was always his vision to build a “crown jewel” in the heart of the Galleria. The tower was designed by HKS Architects and will be built by Manhattan Construction. Expect occupancy in early 2013."

http://www.bisnow.com/houston_commercial_real_estate_news_story.php?p=15708

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"BBVA Compass marked the official start of construction on its new corporate office building last week with an official groundbreaking ceremony. The 22-story, 312k SF LEED Gold building will centralize BBVA’s local executives, multiple business areas, and staff units under a single roof. The bank will occupy 150k SF and six floors. Redstone Companies Real Estate purchased the land in the early ‘90s and demolished the long-standing Compass Bank building in ’09. Redstone CEO Steve Lerner says it was always his vision to build a “crown jewel” in the heart of the Galleria. The tower was designed by HKS Architects and will be built by Manhattan Construction. Expect occupancy in early 2013."

http://www.bisnow.com/houston_commercial_real_estate_news_story.php?p=15708

A Crown Jewel? Hopefully he is talking about the second or third phase, because this BBVA building

is nice, but I dont think its "Crown Jewel" material.

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  • The title was changed to PNC Plaza & 2120 Post Oak Blvd. Mixed-Use
  • The title was changed to PNC Plaza & 2120 Post Oak Blvd Mixed-Use

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