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I assumed there already was a topic on this magnificent Romanesque style church? This link gives good detail of it's beginning's to present.

http://www.abcsoffaith.com/artchurch/annuncc.htm

Been attending since childhood and although it has had fairly recent restorations it is in need once again. Can't help but notice the signs of rain coming through and paint peeling. You must take a tour one day to really appreciate it's grandeur. The narrow stairs leading to the pipe organ are a something else. You must study the intricate detail of the stain glass windows throughout and the gothic furnishings within. I could wonder in this place for hours examining every detail in the interiors.

Nicholas J Clayton - famed prominent Victorian Architect would be proud to see that it still stands today. :D

http://www.travelphotobase.com/s/TXXNC.HTM

Simply Magnifico!

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My grandparents were married there back in 1930 or so. Our family used to go there on Easter Sunday in the 80's. Boy has that area changed since then!

That is so cool. I am happy to report that the church still retains and follows traditional mass and the long time parisoners for the most part still bring the whole family. On recent Palm Sunday everyone gathers in the outside courtyard for the blessing of the palms. Then follow back inside for the remainder of the mass. Very traditional. I must mention they have some of the best singers in a choir I have ever heard. Must hear live. :P

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So how many downtown area Catholic churches are there? At least three?

I know the Hispanic parish, St. Joseph's, is fairly close to downtown. It was well known in the 1970s for its "mariachi" Mass.

Isn't Annunciation church a Nicholas Clayton design? [Oops! That was mentioned above.]

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So how many downtown area Catholic churches are there? At least three?

I know the Hispanic parish, St. Joseph's, is fairly close to downtown. It was well known in the 1970s for its "mariachi" Mass.

Isn't Annunciation church a Nicholas Clayton design? [Oops! That was mentioned above.]

I can only name the Roman Catholic churches/cathdedrals.

If St Joseph is the one near Houston Ave then..

1. St. Joseph

2. Annunciation Church on Texas Ave

3. Our Lady of Guadalupe on Navigation

4. The very GRAND Sacred Heart Co-Cathedral (and old one)

There is a very tiny one in the basement on Main Street next door to CVS? If it still there? Many of us office workers used to all go there once a yr for Ash Wednesday but that is the only time. Cant think of the name though. If you blink you miss it. Very rare for such a mad world just up above.

Annunciation is in real need of another overhaul. -_-

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That is so cool. I am happy to report that the church still retains and follows traditional mass and the long time parisoners for the most part still bring the whole family. On recent Palm Sunday everyone gathers in the outside courtyard for the blessing of the palms. Then follow back inside for the remainder of the mass. Very traditional. I must mention they have some of the best singers in a choir I have ever heard. Must hear live. :P

There is also St. Nicholas (2508 Clay; est. 1887, oldest traditionally black parish in town) and Holy Rosary in Midtown.

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Did the Diocese ever have Christ the King processions through downtown or elsewhere?

Our Lady of Guadalupe is one of the only ones I know of that still are hardcore "traditional" if thats what you are eluding to. Thats what some of us still love about them. Annunciation does or used to go out in the Garden for the Easter "Blessing of the Palms" but that was before they yanked out the garden and placed or enlarged the Girls shool next door. I just personally draw the line when they encourage parishoners to join in the anti abortion protests. Too dangerous and whole new topic.

I personally always wanted to go into every church in downtown (regardless of faith) and see what I (and hundreds of others) have been missing out on for decades/years. I respect any and all denominations and its the architecture that fuels my interest anyway! :P

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Did the Diocese ever have Christ the King processions through downtown or elsewhere?

I think this is the kind of very traditional procession you are referring to although in Spain its still Roman Catholic. If you recall there was a scene in The Talented Mr Ripley where the same procession is seen but in Italia. It saddens me somewhat that mass has become so "modern" that everyone has lost the true protocol, most church's now are like a night at a typical stadium. Lost its origins big time. Your lucky to even fine ONE in Latin!

Oops! other topic I know.

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I think this is the kind of very traditional procession you are referring to although in Spain its still Roman Catholic. If you recall there was a scene in The Talented Mr Ripley where the same procession is seen but in Italia. It saddens me somewhat that mass has become so "modern" that everyone has lost the true protocol, most church's now are like a night at a typical stadium. Lost its origins big time. Your lucky to even fine ONE in Latin!

Oops! other topic I know.

Holy Rosary used to have Latin mass. Maybe they still do; I wouldn't know since I was excommunicated.

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In style of great European churches. Begun 1867 when Father Querat bought old Harris County Courthouse to get bricks for the foundation; completed 1874. Sacristy and steeple were added 1881-1884 from plans of Nicholas J. Clayton, a leading Texas architect of the late 19th century.

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After seeing it for many years, I finally attended mass at Annunciation on February 3--a Novus Ordo mass, in fact.  Before mass, a couple who married there in 1950 came back for photographs and renewal of their vows.

What a gem! Definitely a Nicholas Clayton design.  It's a smaller space inside than it looks from the outside.  I noticed none of the windows opened .  I wonder if that was the case before air conditioning came along.

The adjacent Incarnate Word Academy looks relatively new.  When was it rebuilt?  Wasn't there a parish school in the same block?

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After seeing it for many years, I finally attended mass at Annunciation on February 3--a Novus Ordo mass, in fact.  Before mass, a couple who married there in 1950 came back for photographs and renewal of their vows.

What a gem! Definitely a Nicholas Clayton design.  It's a smaller space inside than it looks from the outside.  I noticed none of the windows opened .  I wonder if that was the case before air conditioning came along.

The adjacent Incarnate Word Academy looks relatively new.  When was it rebuilt?  Wasn't there a parish school in the same block?

 

Incarnate Word Academy rebuilt it's buildings in the late 1980's, after selling the Mother House Convent and adjacent former Marian High School campuses in Bellaire.

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The Foley house move will give us better office space, teaching space and will give the pastor and msr. better living space. I teach RCIA at the Parrish and currently we have to meet inside the church because we don't have proper classrooms.

 

anyone interested in learning about the faith or better forming their faith I invite them to our adult education course this Thursday night.

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Why doesn't the city just give them the Cohn house too? Since Nau Center isn't happening, atleast clear that block instead of leaving its remnants to rot. With all this work on going in the convention district, the historic Cohn house looks just terrible here now. There's space next to the Foley house on Annuciation's grounds (if they don't build that other structure). If not that, move it to Sam Houston Park pronto.

Also, I'd hope the move the train to some where on Minute Maid's grounds. Maybe the green space along Crawford north of Legends Plaza?

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The Foley house move will give us better office space, teaching space and will give the pastor and msr. better living space. I teach RCIA at the Parrish and currently we have to meet inside the church because we don't have proper classrooms.

anyone interested in learning about the faith or better forming their faith I invite them to our adult education course this Thursday night.

Outstanding!

Turning the house into office/function/education space as well as some living quarters is an outstanding use for this building.

I did not like the Nau center (it just felt wrong to me.... I just didn't get it) and I really didn't like how the house fit in. I like this use with the church. Turns the building into something functional rather than an appendix.

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What is strange to me is how this Catholic organization (Annunciation) is allowed and trusted to take these significant homes to preserve and keep them  while Incarnate Word Academy, just earlier this year, on the same block, has no problems dismissing and destroying Nicholas Clayton's Building, claiming that it was obsolete.  What is to say that these old homes won't soon be determined that they "obsolete" and torn down? I am sorry, but trusting the Catholic Church with our architecture never works out well for us in the end.   

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What is strange to me is how this Catholic organization (Annunciation) is allowed and trusted to take these significant homes to preserve and keep them  while Incarnate Word Academy, just earlier this year, on the same block, has no problems dismissing and destroying Nicholas Clayton's Building, claiming that it was obsolete.  What is to say that these old homes won't soon be determined that they "obsolete" and torn down? I am sorry, but trusting the Catholic Church with our architecture never works out well for us in the end.   

 

The same church that gave Philip Johnson his first commission in Houston and is responsible for the only historic mansion still standing on Montrose Blvd.? I guess Dominique de Menil didn't know better than to trust the Catholic Church with architecture...

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What is strange to me is how this Catholic organization (Annunciation) is allowed and trusted to take these significant homes to preserve and keep them  while Incarnate Word Academy, just earlier this year, on the same block, has no problems dismissing and destroying Nicholas Clayton's Building, claiming that it was obsolete.  What is to say that these old homes won't soon be determined that they "obsolete" and torn down? I am sorry, but trusting the Catholic Church with our architecture never works out well for us in the end.   

 

Foley house is a good fit at Annunciation. Foley was a parishioner of Annunciation, his family was very active and generous in the early days of the parish. I think he would be happy that the parish was putting the home to good use.

 

Not sure why you think the church is on some demolition free for all? Does the Catholic church have some history of not preserving it's buildings that we don't know about?

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I'm talking about "our architecture" as in our local structures. The neglectful treatment of our regional architectural treasures is what I am referring to.  The Clayton building which was demolished in March is irreplaceable.   But, typical in the church's local thinking.  When the Archdiocese decided that it was finally time to divest itself of the Bishop's Palace, in Galveston, it did so in such a way to maximize it's profits, rather than transfer it to good hands.  If the Archdiocese was interested in preserving The Palace, it could have made a deal/arrangements for it to be transferred to the GHF rather than make them compete to become the highest bidder.  If the church were at all interested in preserving our local architectural history, I think that they would have handled the destruction of the Clayton Building in Houston or the sale of the Bishops Palace in Galveston differently. 

 

The point about St. Thomas is a good one, however.  Does anyone know if they affiliated with the Galveston-Houston Archdiocese?  Is the Archdiocese over all Catholic entities in the region? 

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I'm talking about "our architecture" as in our local structures. The neglectful treatment of our regional architectural treasures is what I am referring to.  The Clayton building which was demolished in March is irreplaceable.   But, typical in the church's local thinking. 

 

You have no idea what you're talking about. But you are free to have that opinion.

 

As for facts. The city put a clause in the deal that would require Annunciation to maintain the hisotrical archecture of Foley House for at least 30 years. And even if Annunciation wanted to raze it one day, the city would have the option to take it back.

 

http://houston.novusagenda.com/agendapublic//CoverSheet.aspx?ItemID=4927&MeetingID=106

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You have no idea what you're talking about. But you are free to have that opinion.

 

As for facts. The city put a clause in the deal that would require Annunciation to maintain the hisotrical archecture of Foley House for at least 30 years. And even if Annunciation wanted to raze it one day, the city would have the option to take it back.

 

http://houston.novusagenda.com/agendapublic//CoverSheet.aspx?ItemID=4927&MeetingID=106

 

The Clayton Building was just torn down on the exact same block. Just to repeat.

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The Clayton Building was just torn down on the exact same block. Just to repeat.

 

I am aware. I go to church on that block.

 

That's one building. Not exactly a pattern of demolishing buildings.

 

Quite the opposite, the church has a rich history of preserving buildings for centuries. Can we preserve all of them? No. But I can't think of any organization that has done a better job preserving architecture.

 

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Here is an article about Bishop's Palace sale.  The Archdiocese gave GHF one month to come up with $3,000,000 or to Match highest bidder.  No small task for any non-profit organization. 

 

 

What exactly is your complaint?

 

Earlier your grievance was that the archdiocese tore down the clayton building.

 

In this case they are no longer able to maintain bishop's palace as a museum and would rather sell it and use that money for other ministries and other repairs and maintenance for other buildings on Galveston.

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My complaint about the Galveston-Houston Diocese is that they do a very poor job of preserving the architectural history in the possession.  The Clayton Building is a Prime Example as is the Sale of the Bishop's Palace.  In the case of The Bishop's Palace, if the Diocese could've gotten one more dollar from P-Diddy, or Randall Davis, for the building, then they would've, regardless of the intentions of the buyer. This sounds like Maximizing profit from the sale and nothing about preserving the richness of the history.  So, I guess I am concerned that more historic buildings are being transferred to the "care" of the Diocese. 

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More money for ministries like feeding the poor, clothing the naked, healing the sick, serving those in prisons, etc is not a bad thing. The Church is in the business of saving souls not maintaining empty palaces.

 

To say nothing of the fact about the skilled tradesman and architectural artisans that the Archdiocese will employ to maintain other historical buildings on the island with the money from the sale of the palace.

 

There are lots of architectural destroyers in our city. The Church is not one of them.

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Yeah, calling that "one building" is a bit disingenuous. The archdiocese has owned a huge number historic buildings, but that does not make it a particularly good caretaker of them. They might be better than HISD in that respect, but that's not saying much.

 

It's also worth noting that a building actually had to be torn down to make room for the Foley House.

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