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Hello, all. This is my first post on the forum.

I am thinking of moving to the Klein area. However after reading some of your posts, I am concerned about how my family and I would be treated if we moved to the area.

I am an african-american female, in my early thirties, college educated and currently work in the natural gas industry. However grew up in a very low income neighborhood in the northeast side of Houston (think Northline area). I feel if I moved to the area, my family would be viewed as everything that is currently going wrong in the area. And we would only be continuing to bring these "once-great" neighborhoods down. I don't really care what people may think; but I am concerned about how people would treat us.

Not really me, but since my sister and my two tweenage nephews are moving with me, I am concerned about how the children would be treated. I have been the object of prejudice in the past and it is not an experience that I welcome upon them.

I am looking for an intelligent discussion, not an argument. I just want some inside information from current residents.

Thanks!

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for one, welcome to the forum! we like everybody.

i would really be disappointed if i thought there were klein neighborhoods who did not lay out the welcome mat for any new family. same goes for the woodlands (i live in the woodlands). hopefully, someone on the forum will have some good info for you.

good luck with your home search.

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considering the context of the original post, your term "warts and all" could be misconstrued.

Let me further elaborate. I come here and read post after post of comments about how bad FM 1960 is, how bad the Willowbrook area is. I moved here in 2005 and bought a house here this year so I don't find it as bad or distasteful as others have.

I tend to like areas with character!

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Problems as people make it seem. If you stay on this newsgroup a bit, you see that a lot of bashing of the 1960 area goes on.

Well I have read some of the posts and that is where my concern is coming from.

I didn't read the posts as bashing the area as much as bashing the upstarts who have moved there and are now (supposedly) ruining the area.

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Well I have read some of the posts and that is where my concern is coming from.

I didn't read the posts as bashing the area as much as bashing the upstarts who have moved there and are now (supposedly) ruining the area.

I'm an upstart out here... how am I ruining the area?

Many people find it cheaper to move out here to North Houston/Spring/Klein because we can afford to buy a house here (something increasingly difficult in the city) and the area has some pretty decent schools (from what I know ... we don't have kids).

I'm just saying people move to where they can afford and base their decisions on what's best for them. Don't follow the threads here that make it seem like everyone who moves out this way is bad

We (recent transplants) are not all some poor ecapees from the city and not all of us have criminal records.

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I'm an upstart out here... how am I ruining the area?

Many people find it cheaper to move out here to North Houston/Spring/Klein because we can afford to buy a house here (something increasingly difficult in the city) and the area has some pretty decent schools (from what I know ... we don't have kids).

I'm just saying people move to where they can afford and base their decisions on what's best for them. Don't follow the threads here that make it seem like everyone who moves out this way is bad

We (recent transplants) are not all some poor ecapees from the city and not all of us have criminal records.

Okay calm down. It appears you may have misunderstood my original post. I was asking if I would face any prejudice out here because I am:

a) non-Caucasian

B) African-American

c) from an poorer background

When I read posts of the area, all I see are people bashing the people that have moved to North Houston/Spring/Klein, saying they are the reason the area is on the decline (I personally don't feel the area is on the decline). I don't want to be the object of their frustration, especially since I would be moving to the area with two tween age children. I don't want my nephews being treated badly because people are prejudiced.

So my post was not to bash anyone, I was simply asking if I would face any problems in the area since I do not share a similar background of people originally lived in the area. I am currently looking at a homes in Greenwood Forest and the surrounding subdivisions.

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Okay calm down. It appears you may have misunderstood my original post. I was asking if I would face any prejudice out here because I am:

a) non-Caucasian

B) African-American

c) from an poorer background

When I read posts of the area, all I see are people bashing the people that have moved to North Houston/Spring/Klein, saying they are the reason the area is on the decline (I personally don't feel the area is on the decline). I don't want to be the object of their frustration, especially since I would be moving to the area with two tween age children. I don't want my nephews being treated badly because people are prejudiced.

So my post was not to bash anyone, I was simply asking if I would face any problems in the area since I do not share a similar background of people originally lived in the area. I am currently looking at a homes in Greenwood Forest and the surrounding subdivisions.

I'm fit into several of your categories too and I have not been mistreated or in any way slighted out here because I am black. But I will pose this thought ... we ALL have prejudices of some kind. It's how that prejudice is manifested where the problems occur. I could care less what people think of me, it's when they DO something to me where the problems start.

I think if you like the area, the schools, the houses, the neighborhood, you and your family will be fine.

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it's when they DO something to me where the problems start.

Exactly. I am not concerned about what people say, but what they do. That is why I posted.

Some of the posts I read were pretty bad, and I wanted to make sure that the vibes I was feeling from the message boards were not the prevailing behavior in the neighborhoods.

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Exactly. I am not concerned about what people say, but what they do. That is why I posted.

Some of the posts I read were pretty bad, and I wanted to make sure that the vibes I was feeling from the message boards were not the prevailing behavior in the neighborhoods.

You've got to put all of these posts into perspective. First, this is a microcosm of society. You are only getting 1,000 or so people (and only about 50-100 that post regularly/daily). So it is a kind of warped view.

The people that post here are vocal and impassioned, but we don't represent all the segments of 'society' or most neighborhoods than do the people you see interviewed on the news. They/we just happen to have their voices heard.

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When people refer to "new folks" causing the area to decline, they are generally referring to the explosion of apartment complexes and the lower-income people that inhabit them.

It's not about what they look like.

It's about what they do.

CDeb is right on target with the last post. A website that you may want to check out would be http://www.greatschools.net/

It is very interesting to hear what the community - including students and teachers have to say about the schools for the neighborhoods that you are considering.

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Okay calm down. It appears you may have misunderstood my original post. I was asking if I would face any prejudice out here because I am:

a) non-Caucasian

B) African-American

c) from an poorer background

When I read posts of the area, all I see are people bashing the people that have moved to North Houston/Spring/Klein, saying they are the reason the area is on the decline (I personally don't feel the area is on the decline). I don't want to be the object of their frustration, especially since I would be moving to the area with two tween age children. I don't want my nephews being treated badly because people are prejudiced.

So my post was not to bash anyone, I was simply asking if I would face any problems in the area since I do not share a similar background of people originally lived in the area. I am currently looking at a homes in Greenwood Forest and the surrounding subdivisions.

KayKayGirl,

As a Greenwood Forest homeowner myself I would welcome you and your family to the community. I would prefer to have a wonderful neighbor that took pride in their home and neighborhood than to have a closed minded and ignorant neighbor that lived like a slob. We have 3 African-American families on my street who maintain beautiful homes and I'm proud to have them as neighbors. These homes look better than they did when the caucasian families owned them.

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Sounds like you are a North Forest alum......Forest Brook?

I grew up on the southwest side close to Missouri City so I know firsthand how areas can change but I know what your experiencing as I moved to the NW Side in 2002 and watched the demographic shifts...

if you have so many concerns you do better moving somewhere that's brand new with no identity or move somewhere that's already diverse off Veterans Memorial as Acres Home has basically extended up that street anyway.....

when it's all said and done whites are always going to move at first "threat" of change....history has proven that in Houston as alot of the wards were white. then they moved right outside the loop, then outside the beltway and now way out past the Grand Parkway...blacks then follow as hispanics move in..

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I spent a few years in the NW burbs, and all I have to say is that the people that are saying AA's from a poor background (now making it mind you) are bringing the neighborhood down, are white people from a poor background, finally making it. They get a little money and now they are big stuff. :wacko:

So there you go. Laugh at them and move on.

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I have lived in the Spring-Klein for the majority of my life. It is true that the area is becoming more ethnic in every facet. But, the Klein community has dealt with it very well, with very little complaints from the residents or the migrators. The community you are moving into is a very accepting and welcoming community even in spite of wealth status.

you'll love it

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Don't move into a house in the klein Forest atendence zone

Please don't listen to this person ... I live in the KF attendance zone and for every "scary" story I hear about Klein Forest, I can share with a story about someone's child who attdended KF and is now at SMU, Princeton, Notre Dame, Harvard etc. or was able to get into any Texas school they wanted to attend.

Yes, KF is diverse and there are socio-economic challenges, but you can't beat their Fine Arts (it won several Tommy Tune awards last year, even beating out our "sainted" Klein High in a few categories and have won the Grammy Awards for music in the past)

I have two children at Wunderlich right now who are headed to KF. I had heard all of the "scary" stories about Wunderlich before my kids went there. Wow... how scary is this.. they have the largest middle-school orchestra in the whole Klein ISD district; they have some wonderful new programs like AVID, which they get because they are an "evil" Title I school (woo hoo). For every middle-school horror story about Wunderlich, I can share with you equally scray stories from Doerre or Kleb.

If you want your children to attend a racially diverse school where the children wear standardized dress and there is less peer pressure to "fit in" -- Wunderlich is your school because there is no all-white majority; my children are white and I repeatedly ask them how they like it. THEY LOVE IT. Their friends are Indian/Asain/Hispanic/Black and yes, white.

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Revealing my utter nerdness, but here's an interesting KF story.

When I was at Westfield, I was on the academic quiz team (remember the Texaco Star Academic Challenges on TV in the 90's?? I don't know if they still do those).

Anyway, you had to win a "mall match" in Town & Country Mall before you could have a televised match. We had an awesome team at Westfield that year. In our mall match, we annihilated the High School for Health Professionals, which at the time was regarded as HSID's best magnet school.

Our TV match was against Klein Forest (which had a much worse reputation than Westfield in those days). KF kicked the ever lovin' crap out of us. It was really ugly.

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Please don't listen to this person ... I live in the KF attendance zone and for every "scary" story I hear about Klein Forest, I can share with a story about someone's child who attdended KF and is now at SMU, Princeton, Notre Dame, Harvard etc. or was able to get into any Texas school they wanted to attend.

Yes, KF is diverse and there are socio-economic challenges, but you can't beat their Fine Arts (it won several Tommy Tune awards last year, even beating out our "sainted" Klein High in a few categories and have won the Grammy Awards for music in the past)

I have two children at Wunderlich right now who are headed to KF. I had heard all of the "scary" stories about Wunderlich before my kids went there. Wow... how scary is this.. they have the largest middle-school orchestra in the whole Klein ISD district; they have some wonderful new programs like AVID, which they get because they are an "evil" Title I school (woo hoo). For every middle-school horror story about Wunderlich, I can share with you equally scray stories from Doerre or Kleb.

I was at Doerre, and the 8th grade principal (Mr. Allen) was creepy.

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I was refering to the acadimics of KFHS.

2006 ratings this is the most recent I could find.

2005 ratings

2004 ratings

2003 ratings

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I was at Doerre, and I admit the 8th grade principal (Mr. Allen) was creepy.

He is a fast runner( I speek from experiance).

I was refering to the acadimics of KFHS.

2003 ratings

Just like I wouldn't judge the quality of your high school education by your poor spelling -- I would suggest that test scores do not necessarily offer a complete picture of any school. :mellow:

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I was at Doerre, and I admit the 8th grade principal (Mr. Allen) was creepy.

He is a fast runner( I speek from experiance).

I was refering to the acadimics of KFHS.

Each time I read one of your posts I want to reach for a red pen!

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Please don't listen to this person ... I live in the KF attendance zone and for every "scary" story I hear about Klein Forest, I can share with a story about someone's child who attdended KF and is now at SMU, Princeton, Notre Dame, Harvard etc. or was able to get into any Texas school they wanted to attend.

Yes, KF is diverse and there are socio-economic challenges, but you can't beat their Fine Arts (it won several Tommy Tune awards last year, even beating out our "sainted" Klein High in a few categories and have won the Grammy Awards for music in the past)

I have two children at Wunderlich right now who are headed to KF. I had heard all of the "scary" stories about Wunderlich before my kids went there. Wow... how scary is this.. they have the largest middle-school orchestra in the whole Klein ISD district; they have some wonderful new programs like AVID, which they get because they are an "evil" Title I school (woo hoo). For every middle-school horror story about Wunderlich, I can share with you equally scray stories from Doerre or Kleb.

If you want your children to attend a racially diverse school where the children wear standardized dress and there is less peer pressure to "fit in" -- Wunderlich is your school because there is no all-white majority; my children are white and I repeatedly ask them how they like it. THEY LOVE IT. Their friends are Indian/Asain/Hispanic/Black and yes, white.

I'd have to disagree. I have subsitute taught at the different high schools in KISD, and Klein Forest is not a place I would want to send my kid. The learning environment there is shockingly different than it is at the more northerly schools.

When did Klein Forest High School when a Grammy award?

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When did Klein Forest High School when a Grammy award?

I like the thinly-veiled "learning environment" comment ... yes, if you get the daily, KleINTouch from the school district you'll notice that environment is generating the kind of students who have pretty much cleaned up when in comes to Scholastic Writing Awards, FreedeomTrek awards and they even did well in the recent Academic Decathalon.

To your question, Klein Forest has won seven or more Grammy Foundation awards (from what I can find with a quick Google check) and are finalists for another one this year. I believe Klein Oak won last year. Here are some links from this decade if you'd like to check:

They won the big award -- National Signature School in 2003http://www.enjoythemusic.com/news/0403/

2004http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/051304/met_933085.shtml 2005http://www.arkmea.org/announcements/Danville.htm 2006http://www.grammy.com/PressReleases/272_251_2006GSS.pdfhttp://brookcntr.k12.mn.us/bchs/bchsbcbandawardinfo.html

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I saw that article.....developers are getting extra greedy now....just by them going all the way into Tomball at first to do that says alot...but where is it exactly in Tomball?

money is blind and we wonder why there's a thing called white flight....if this project is successful, a large amount of folks will move out so far away no telling what will come out of this..

I'm black and I think a project of this magnitude would fare better in Acres Homes or NE Houston near Homestead as the land is available and both areas would love to add the taxbase...it would also repopulate those areas and the surrounding school systems...

putting a project out there makes no sense as it causes you to rely heavily on the busline and it creates a tension at the first hint of a crime related to the area

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Hello, all. This is my first post on the forum.

I am thinking of moving to the Klein area. However after reading some of your posts, I am concerned about how my family and I would be treated if we moved to the area.

I am an african-american female, in my early thirties, college educated and currently work in the natural gas industry. However grew up in a very low income neighborhood in the northeast side of Houston (think Northline area). I feel if I moved to the area, my family would be viewed as everything that is currently going wrong in the area. And we would only be continuing to bring these "once-great" neighborhoods down. I don't really care what people may think; but I am concerned about how people would treat us.

Not really me, but since my sister and my two tweenage nephews are moving with me, I am concerned about how the children would be treated. I have been the object of prejudice in the past and it is not an experience that I welcome upon them.

I am looking for an intelligent discussion, not an argument. I just want some inside information from current residents.

Thanks!

I'm sure you have been keeping up with all the bond election talk, so here's my advice, for what it's worth:

Buy the cheapest house you can find that feeds into Klein High. None of the other high schools get the same quality/type/number of programs and teachers. Their school will be smaller than the others, meaning smaller classes as well. Klein Oak is predicted to grow to between 3500 to almost 5000 students, Klein High will be much smaller, so your kids will get a better educational experience. The board, as I have seen it for almost 15 years, swings whichever way Klein High parents demand, so you definitely want to be part of that group. Go 'Kats!

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I'm sure you have been keeping up with all the bond election talk, so here's my advice, for what it's worth:

Buy the cheapest house you can find that feeds into Klein High. None of the other high schools get the same quality/type/number of programs and teachers. Their school will be smaller than the others, meaning smaller classes as well. Klein Oak is predicted to grow to between 3500 to almost 5000 students, Klein High will be much smaller, so your kids will get a better educational experience. The board, as I have seen it for almost 15 years, swings whichever way Klein High parents demand, so you definitely want to be part of that group. Go 'Kats!

Is someone bitter? ^_^

Sorry pineda, couldn't resist.

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Bitter, maybe? Realistic, more likely!

A couple of examples:

The last two years, Klein Oak has gone to the playoffs in football. Klein High didn't even make it to round one this year. Yet, at the end of the year, Klein High had far more of their athletes sign with universities with scholarships than Oak. The athletes from Oak were just as academically qualified as the ones from Klein.

The last two years, Klein Oak has had the highly-touted International Baccalaureate Programme at their school, which means all the participants in it come from the other high schools as well as Oak. You would think this would mean that Oak would have a lot of academic talent, since the I.B. kids are ranked with the Oak kids, not their own home schools. Yet, this year, Oak had not one National Merit Scholarship finalist. I think Klein High had between 5-10 of them.

Klein High consistenly participates in and consistently wins Academic Decathlons held annually. Oak was not even mentioned this year as a participant. Klein High's parking lots are full after school, Oak's are empty, do the math.

You want your kid to have the best possible "educational experience" in Klein ISD? Send them to Klein High. Forget Klein Oak, Klein Forest and Klein Collins. We aren't even on the same level as the "darling of the district", Klein High.

As one parent told me recently, "It means something when you tell someone you graduated from Klein High."

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Bitter, maybe? Realistic, more likely!

A couple of examples:

The last two years, Klein Oak has gone to the playoffs in football. Klein High didn't even make it to round one this year. Yet, at the end of the year, Klein High had far more of their athletes sign with universities with scholarships than Oak. The athletes from Oak were just as academically qualified as the ones from Klein.

The last two years, Klein Oak has had the highly-touted International Baccalaureate Programme at their school, which means all the participants in it come from the other high schools as well as Oak. You would think this would mean that Oak would have a lot of academic talent, since the I.B. kids are ranked with the Oak kids, not their own home schools. Yet, this year, Oak had not one National Merit Scholarship finalist. I think Klein High had between 5-10 of them.

Klein High consistenly participates in and consistently wins Academic Decathlons held annually. Oak was not even mentioned this year as a participant. Klein High's parking lots are full after school, Oak's are empty, do the math.

You want your kid to have the best possible "educational experience" in Klein ISD? Send them to Klein High. Forget Klein Oak, Klein Forest and Klein Collins. We aren't even on the same level as the "darling of the district", Klein High.

As one parent told me recently, "It means something when you tell someone you graduated from Klein High."

I was teasing you. But the examples you mention do not point to district favoritism. Colleges signing athletes to scholarships... that's between the college and the student. I don't really see why the two schools' football success is that relevant here, since Klein tends to do best in other sports besides football.

I'm not sure why having the IB program would indicate that Klein Oak has a lot of academic talent. As for all the extra-curricular programs like Decathlon, this comes from teachers who are motivated in starting them and students interested in joining them. Nothing the district decides.

In the world of education, it takes longer for the new guy to catch up than in just about anything else. It takes time for a culture to develop... at Klein I had teachers who had taught there for over twenty years, and when you teach in a place for that long, you can develop things like extra-curriculars that new teachers can't.

And honestly, it may mean something in North Houston to have graduated from Klein High, but in the rest of the world, it's pretty much meaningless. No one I knew in Chicago had heard of Klein, and very few people here in Dallas have. Don't be so down.

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I was teasing you. But the examples you mention do not point to district favoritism. Colleges signing athletes to scholarships... that's between the college and the student. I don't really see why the two schools' football success is that relevant here, since Klein tends to do best in other sports besides football.

I'm not sure why having the IB program would indicate that Klein Oak has a lot of academic talent. As for all the extra-curricular programs like Decathlon, this comes from teachers who are motivated in starting them and students interested in joining them. Nothing the district decides.

In the world of education, it takes longer for the new guy to catch up than in just about anything else. It takes time for a culture to develop... at Klein I had teachers who had taught there for over twenty years, and when you teach in a place for that long, you can develop things like extra-curriculars that new teachers can't.

And honestly, it may mean something in North Houston to have graduated from Klein High, but in the rest of the world, it's pretty much meaningless. No one I knew in Chicago had heard of Klein, and very few people here in Dallas have. Don't be so down.

I specifically mentioned football because Klein Oak went to the playoffs two years in a row, and yet Klein High signed more football players than Oak both years. That was but one example.

Having the IB program should indicate that Klein Oak has a lot of academic talent as it is touted as a very rigorous course of study that would seem to draw the very best scholars the district has to offer.

How long will Oak be considered as the "new guy" in your mind? We've been there over 20 years already. Many of our teachers have been there that long. When does being the "new guy" stop being used as an excuse for not having the same quality of teaching programs available at Oak that Klein High has?

When Klein Collins opened, Oak lost a lot of very good teachers and programs. That has not happened at Klein High.

I have always asked that the programs and the teaching abilities be evenly distributed at all the high schools, but they seem to be overly concentrated at Klein High, hence the consistent Academic Decathlon titles.

And, honestly, I totally agree with you that in the real world, to brag about having graduated from Klein High would seem pretty meaningless, but within the Klein district, it does seem to mean something.

My child graduates Klein Oak this year and will go on to a major university in the state and I'm proud of her and what she has been able to accomplish.

Yet, at the same time, I think there is a difference between succeeding IN SPITE of Klein High having better teachers and programs, and succeeding BECAUSE Klein High has better teachers and programs.

Because the person who started this thread was asking about the Klein schools, I thought it best to advise them that because we all pay the same tax rate in Klein ISD, that it would be in their child's best interest to go to the best possible place and get the best possible education, which as everyone in Klein ISD knows, IS the darling of the district, Klein High.

Hey, did I mention that they're getting a brand-new school? Yeah, the superintendent didn't even base that decision on any published engineering reports, he just said he felt "it was time". Go Kats, go! Move into Klein High zone & be the best!

2007 High School Rankings list by the Children At Risk group

Klein High - Tier One - 19

Klein Collins - Tier One - 26

Klein Oak - Tier Two - 40

Klein Forest - Tier Three - 73

Is someone bitter?

Sorry pineda, couldn't resist.

No, H-Town Man, don't apologize, you're absolutely right! Klein High is DA BOMB! If you want the absolute best education for your children within Klein ISD, move into a neighborhood that is zoned to Klein High, you can't do any better than that!

Thank goodness Dr. Cain and the Klein ISD school board have the good insight to know this fact and are currently pushing a gigantic bond election that will help build a new and much better-looking "flagship" school for the Klein High students.

Finally, all the Klein High parents can stop their whining and complaining that although they already have the best programs and teachers, that their school looked like a P.O.S. compared to Klein Collins. Now, they will truly have the best of everything! I'm pretty sure the drawings for the new and improved Klein High will beat anything they have over at Klein Collins.

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I specifically mentioned football because Klein Oak went to the playoffs two years in a row, and yet Klein High signed more football players than Oak both years. That was but one example.

Having the IB program should indicate that Klein Oak has a lot of academic talent as it is touted as a very rigorous course of study that would seem to draw the very best scholars the district has to offer.

How long will Oak be considered as the "new guy" in your mind? We've been there over 20 years already. Many of our teachers have been there that long. When does being the "new guy" stop being used as an excuse for not having the same quality of teaching programs available at Oak that Klein High has?

When Klein Collins opened, Oak lost a lot of very good teachers and programs. That has not happened at Klein High.

I have always asked that the programs and the teaching abilities be evenly distributed at all the high schools, but they seem to be overly concentrated at Klein High, hence the consistent Academic Decathlon titles.

And, honestly, I totally agree with you that in the real world, to brag about having graduated from Klein High would seem pretty meaningless, but within the Klein district, it does seem to mean something.

My child graduates Klein Oak this year and will go on to a major university in the state and I'm proud of her and what she has been able to accomplish.

Yet, at the same time, I think there is a difference between succeeding IN SPITE of Klein High having better teachers and programs, and succeeding BECAUSE Klein High has better teachers and programs.

Because the person who started this thread was asking about the Klein schools, I thought it best to advise them that because we all pay the same tax rate in Klein ISD, that it would be in their child's best interest to go to the best possible place and get the best possible education, which as everyone in Klein ISD knows, IS the darling of the district, Klein High.

Hey, did I mention that they're getting a brand-new school? Yeah, the superintendent didn't even base that decision on any published engineering reports, he just said he felt "it was time". Go Kats, go! Move into Klein High zone & be the best!

2007 High School Rankings list by the Children At Risk group

Klein High - Tier One - 19

Klein Collins - Tier One - 26

Klein Oak - Tier Two - 40

Klein Forest - Tier Three - 73

No, H-Town Man, don't apologize, you're absolutely right! Klein High is DA BOMB! If you want the absolute best education for your children within Klein ISD, move into a neighborhood that is zoned to Klein High, you can't do any better than that!

Thank goodness Dr. Cain and the Klein ISD school board have the good insight to know this fact and are currently pushing a gigantic bond election that will help build a new and much better-looking "flagship" school for the Klein High students.

Finally, all the Klein High parents can stop their whining and complaining that although they already have the best programs and teachers, that their school looked like a P.O.S. compared to Klein Collins. Now, they will truly have the best of everything! I'm pretty sure the drawings for the new and improved Klein High will beat anything they have over at Klein Collins.

Wow pineda, I don't think I realized how emotional you are about all this. There's no way I can respond to everything you just said, but as to a couple of things that stuck out...

You said Klein had more "athletes" sign to colleges, not more football players. Hence I questioned why you were just comparing football success. One could of course question why, if Klein had more talented football players (as evidenced by colleges' decisions to recruit them), did they not produce better teams than Klein Oak? Klein Oak must have better coaching! Oh the unfairness! The district should redistribute the coaches immediately!

The IB program doesn't mean a whole lot to me. Sometimes these programs are jumped at by schools who are trying to build themselves up academically. When I was at A&M, the big deal in the English department was that we were a part of the Carnegie Initiative on improving the doctorate. When I was at the University of Chicago, no one ever heard of the Carnegie Initiative. Now which of those two schools has the better English department?

You can't "evenly distribute" programs and teaching abilities around the district. Teachers teach where they want to teach. And programs get started when there is student interest. It's not up to the district to make sure Klein Oak's Academic Decathlon team is as good as Klein's.

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