Trae Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 NYC gets hella hot. So does Chicago. Being between those buildings and stuff. A lot of the subway stations in NYC have no AC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totheskies Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 NYC gets hella hot. So does Chicago. Being between those buildings and stuff. A lot of the subway stations in NYC have no AC.Dayumm-- we even AC the sidewalks here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 NYC gets hot as balls during the summer.... muggy, sticky, stinky, hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmann101 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 It's hot here, and "no one" walks anywhere (except crazy people who like hotness).Heat isn't going to stop people from walking. Look at all the people walking in Miami and LA! It's attitudes like this that keep Houston from becoming more of a urban city. What's the point of building these dense/urban projects if there going to have parking spots and parking garages...Their pointless if Houston dosen't get its act together on the whole public transportation issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Really? Just a few blocks? I guess you'll have to stay away from all these urban projects like BLVD Place, West Ave., Oaks District, City Center, HP and DG. That stinks.I will if I remember to use my Dryosal the night before! Or just in the cooler months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Heat isn't going to stop people from walking. Look at all the people walking in Miami and LA! It's attitudes like this that keep Houston from becoming more of a urban city. What's the point of building these dense/urban projects if there going to have parking spots and parking garages...how is building a few projects going to make already built out areas more dense? i.e. cars will be required for most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfre81 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I took Metro and walked on West Gray, right in front of the New York Pizzeria, with the car parked at home.I actually walked there from Wheeler Station.This city is full of lightweights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h8s Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Swamplot today is running the demo permit for the strip mall. I think I saw a tractor on the site today, too.Demolition just started. I'm watching it through my window in the HCC building. It'll probably be a pile of rubble by the time I get back from lunch.As for the comment on the "failed" attempt at retail space in the ground level of the HCC garage, it may not have worked as retail but HCC is making a killing leasing it to St. Luke's hospital as a large call center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmann101 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 how is building a few projects going to make already built out areas more dense? i.e. cars will be required for most.You just repeated what I said. I stated what was the point of building these places if there going to have parking space/garages. Then I commented on the need to expand rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 You just repeated what I said. I stated what was the point of building these places if there going to have parking space/garages. Then I commented on the need to expand rail.no...i'm wondering how NOT building parking spaces/garages is going to suddenly make people leave their cars? i know you want houston to be "more of an urban city" and not building parking spaces/garages is going to accomplish this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h8s Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 It's hot here, and "no one" walks anywhere (except crazy people who like hotness). Lazy people make me . Gas prices go up -> Houstonians drive less -> Houstononians walk more -> Houstonians lose weight -> Houston stops winning "Fattest City" awards. Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Does Camden usually use the same architecture firm, engineers, etc? I wanna find a rendering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Houston stops winning "Fattest City" awards.i think we lost it in 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmann101 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 no...i'm wondering how NOT building parking spaces/garages is going to suddenly make people leave their cars? i know you want houston to be "more of an urban city" and not building parking spaces/garages is going to accomplish this?I'm not saying don't build them, I'm just saying their not exactly urban with parking spaces. Houston really needs to expand rail if they want people out walking more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I'm not saying don't build them, I'm just saying their not exactly urban with parking spaces. Houston really needs to expand rail if they want people out walking more. so rail results in walking MORE? is THAT what this is all about? we're building rail so people will walk more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfre81 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 so rail results in walking MORE? is THAT what this is all about? we're building rail so people will walk more? I usually see more people walking around the rail stations than anywhere else so....yeah, he just might be on to something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I usually see more people walking around the rail stations than anywhere else so....yeah, he just might be on to something.those are homeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfre81 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 those are homeless. They look like they're fairly well-off by homeless standards then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 They look like they're fairly well-off by homeless standards then. yep that's how it is around bus stops too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfre81 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 yep that's how it is around bus stops too. You know, I've been taking Metro a lot more often lately and finding a lot more people who I know aren't homeless riding. Maybe this $4/gallon business has something to do with it. It's not just for the poor and homeless anymore. Driving makes you poor now. So - supposing we're transitioning into a new norm where transit is a little more "mainstream" here - can you can explain to me how the expansion of transit (i.e. rail) is not going to cause more pedestrian traffic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 You know, I've been taking Metro a lot more often lately and finding a lot more people who I know aren't homeless riding. Maybe this $4/gallon business has something to do with it. It's not just for the poor and homeless anymore. Driving makes you poor now.So - supposing we're transitioning into a new norm where transit is a little more "mainstream" here - can you can explain to me how the expansion of transit (i.e. rail) is not going to cause more pedestrian traffic?He can't and won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmann101 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 so rail results in walking MORE? is THAT what this is all about? we're building rail so people will walk more? Do you even know what your talking about? The whole point of rail is to encourage more walkable areas and also provide public transportation. Building Urban areas such as these are great but people will just drive to them and once finished; get back in their automobiles and go on with life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 So - supposing we're transitioning into a new norm where transit is a little more "mainstream" here - can you can explain to me how the expansion of transit (i.e. rail) is not going to cause more pedestrian traffic?utilizing ANY transit is going to require people to walk, including buses. There are more cost effective ways to accomplish your proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Do you even know what your talking about? The whole point of rail is to encourage more walkable areas and also provide public transportation.rail is a means of transportation, it has nothing to do with providing more walkable areas. that is independent of rail. Building Urban areas such as these are great but people will just drive to them and once finished; get back in their automobiles and go on with life.and many of these "urban areas" are located in high traffic areas already. are businesses going to limit access to possible consumers just because they are in a car? it is all about maximizing exposure to as many consumers as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) Lazy people make me .Gas prices go up -> Houstonians drive less -> Houstononians walk more -> Houstonians lose weight -> Houston stops winning "Fattest City" awards. Yay! I'm not lazy or over weight. Just whiny. Edited June 11, 2008 by Montrose1100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talltexan83 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 From a construction management perspective, is today's demolition a really good sign of this project taking off?.............or are we just as likely to see a vacant lot for a few more years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 From a construction management perspective, is today's demolition a really good sign of this project taking off?.............or are we just as likely to see a vacant lot for a few more years?Good question. Another long-term vacant block, especially considering its proximity to the superblock, sends a mixed message about Midtown; why all these huge empty lots if it's such a 'happening' place? If they're not going to start building within a reasonable time, I would rather they'd just let the existing building stand. An acceptable alternative would be to plant both blocks to prairie grasses and pasture a few longhorns on 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 Good question. Another long-term vacant block, especially considering its proximity to the superblock, sends a mixed message about Midtown; why all these huge empty lots if it's such a 'happening' place? If they're not going to start building within a reasonable time, I would rather they'd just let the existing building stand. An acceptable alternative would be to plant both blocks to prairie grasses and pasture a few longhorns on 'em.Don't forget a skybridge so that the Longhorns can cross the street without going outside in the awful sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jfre81 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Cool shots, midtownuser. I was out there yesterday walking from the 82 bus to the rail (yes, folks, walking) but my camera batteries were dead. The vacantness around there does indeed send a mixed signal about Midtown but I really think of the whole place as a work in progress. The question is what to do with all that space. I figure you can fit three or four CVS there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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