Gaeshun Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Check this out! Great Newschron.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Here's hoping. It would be even better if they put retail on the ground floor of the parking garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaeshun Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 I agree I do like the that the second building will have underground parking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtownguy Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 We'll see. There have been a lot of announced projects that haven't been built.Quite frankly, midtown has enough apartments, and not enough condos/townhouses. But, I suppose it's great to increase the residential density of midtown, which will bring in more retail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiDTOWNeR Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Keep 'em comin'!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Can't wait to see a rendering. And is $1.50 per sq. ft. quite low for midtown? It seems very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternGulf Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Sounds like another 2222 Smith Street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston-development Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 it will be comparable to 2222 smith. farb has the money to get it done and occupancy rates in midtown are doing quite well. problem is, after camden builds out their two sites, the market will be overbuilt quickly. additionally, at $1.50/sq ft, he can make the numbers work based upon his constuction estimate (+/- $90/sq ft). personally, dont see how its possible to build that cheaply. especially with a parking garage AND 4 over 2 podium. based upon my personal experience, would think it would cost a minimum of $130 psf to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 (edited) It seems like NANCY SARNOFF has been reading HAIF because she mentions some stuff that me and others have talked about onn here. Take a look at this quote:""Much of the development in the United States is sprawling, low-density, car-dependent, big-box or strip-mall construction, which produces more and more traffic and harms our land, air and water," the report reads.Many of the developments the group singled out as environmentally sound are mixed-use projects that combine residential units with offices, shops and, in some cases, transit. They include the Pearl District in Portland, Atlanta's Atlantic Station and Bay Meadows in San Mateo, Calif.Would anything in Houston ever live up to those values?"This whole article is good to read, it talks about the reson Houston isn't developing as urban as other cities (becuase of Zoning):http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headli...iz/3571633.html Edited January 9, 2006 by citykid09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 It seems like NANCY SARNOFF has been reading HAIF because she mentions some stuff that me and others have talked about onn here.She has the hots for you bad, citykid. I was having drinks with her the other day and she told me you were the only intelligent poster on this forum, because you are the only one who knows how cool Atlanta is...and how URBAN it is....and Urban turns her on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 She has the hots for you bad, citykid. I was having drinks with her the other day and she told me you were the only intelligent poster on this forum, because you are the only one who knows how cool Atlanta is...and how URBAN it is....and Urban turns her on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiDTOWNeR Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 She has the hots for you bad, citykid. I was having drinks with her the other day and she told me you were the only intelligent poster on this forum, because you are the only one who knows how cool Atlanta is...and how URBAN it is....and Urban turns her on.LMAO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 She has the hots for you bad, citykid. I was having drinks with her the other day and she told me you were the only intelligent poster on this forum, because you are the only one who knows how cool Atlanta is...and how URBAN it is....and Urban turns her on. This just became my new signature! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houstonian in Iraq Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 This just became my new signature! LMFAO y'all are too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeightsGuy Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Has anyone considered that citykid09 may in fact be Nancy Sarnoff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Has anyone considered that citykid09 may in fact be Nancy Sarnoff? Man, I sure hope not, cuz I kinda think Nancy Sarnoff is hot. If she turned out to be citykid, it would ruin ALL kinds of fantasies! Besides, I don't think Nancy Sarnoff has a problem with slant-in parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 C'mon guys, your going to make city kid move to Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 C'mon guys, your going to make city kid move to Atlanta.I plan to but I really want to see the city in person before I do that. I might move there or to Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Yeah, just be sure to visit more than the airport this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Yeah, just be sure to visit more than the airport this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 (edited) *check your building expiration dates*I predict in 20 years that these developments will be run by slum lords and that midtown will be the new ghetto. Edited January 10, 2006 by infinite_jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNerd Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) She has the hots for you bad, citykid. I was having drinks with her the other day and she told me you were the only intelligent poster on this forum, because you are the only one who knows how cool Atlanta is...and how URBAN it is....and Urban turns her on. Stop it, you're Imbarrassing him! If ya know what i mean... Edited January 22, 2006 by UrbaNerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Stop it, you're Imbarrassing him! If ya know what i mean... I DO know what you mean. Man, I sure hope Ms. Sarnoff has a sense of humor, given that we're using her for our own amusement. No hard feelings, huh, Nancy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2H Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I plan to but I really want to see the city in person before I do that. I might move there or to Houston.why would you move to Atlanta when Houston is only an hour away from you? Houston has everything Atlanta has, probably more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTexas Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I can't help but notice that since January 2006, when Farb bought three areas of land (McGowen @ Bagby (and on Bagby across the street) + McGowen @ Baldwin) there has been no development of what was supposed to be a midrise to be built starting in Spring 2006. Quite a long time to own expensive property without development (after purchasing it with a predetermined plan). Yes, the City of Houston building and parking lot were torn down (probably for tax reasons) making it less expensive to hold undeveloped property. And one of the lots is a disgusting "swamp".....neighbors are constantly calling to have the weeds cut down below "skyscraper height" ......not to mention a bird that looks like a crane that was hanging out in that "swamp" with the rats....true! Now they have had a guard outside the property for about 4 days while a communications shed is further disassembled...must be some expensive equipment in there running the cell phone tower on the lot! They put up new fencing and barbed wire around that shed today... Anyone heard anything new regarding what has happened to the development of these properties and the supposed midrise? Did it fall through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 welcome to the forum HTexas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTexas Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Anyone know anything about this development? Is it going through? Thanks! I can't help but notice that since January 2006, when Farb bought three areas of land (McGowen @ Bagby (and on Bagby across the street) + McGowen @ Baldwin) there has been no development of what was supposed to be a midrise to be built starting in Spring 2006. Quite a long time to own expensive property without development (after purchasing it with a predetermined plan). Yes, the City of Houston building and parking lot were torn down (probably for tax reasons) making it less expensive to hold undeveloped property. And one of the lots is a disgusting "swamp".....neighbors are constantly calling to have the weeds cut down below "skyscraper height" ......not to mention a bird that looks like a crane that was hanging out in that "swamp" with the rats....true!Now they have had a guard outside the property for about 4 days while a communications shed is further disassembled...must be some expensive equipment in there running the cell phone tower on the lot! They put up new fencing and barbed wire around that shed today... Anyone heard anything new regarding what has happened to the development of these properties and the supposed midrise? Did it fall through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston-development Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 sorry for the delayed response, i normally stick around the going up section.farb is still moving foward. ive seen the renderings and its going to be a gorgeous project.there was a possibility of him selling a chunk a while ago but the potential buyer realized it wasnt feasible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rci2145 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 It looks like construction has finally begun on the lots of land at McGowen and Bagby owned by Harold Farb. They are supposed to be upscale apartments. An existing cell phone tower on the big lot of land has stalled them. It likes like they are probably building a parking garage across the street from the big lot right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rci2145 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 It looks like construction has finally begun on the lots of land at McGowen and Bagby owned by Harold Farb. They are supposed to be an upscale midrise apartment building. An existing cell phone tower on the big lot of land has stalled them. It likes like they are probably building a parking garage across the street from the big lot right now. Hopefully that means the cell phone tower will be taken out soon so they can actually start building. The apartments are supposedly going to be really expensive. Every apartment will include granite countertops. After they are finished with that I'm guessing that some of the seedier stuff accross the street on Bagby will be torn down and they can put in some decent commercial development there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Got any additional info on this?I was always wondering what they were planning on doing with that tower. the location for it sucked and I always wondered why they didn't put it near the edge of the property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Are you talking about this piece of land?I don't see any other land that it could be.http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Houston,+TX,...p;z=19&om=0And if so, it doesn't look like many apts could fit onto it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Nope. sorry, that was downtown. We're talking closer to the montrose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) Here it is. Google map is stupid for some reason. If you click on the link, it takes you to the location I saved and then goes to downtown. I don't know why.Sorry Jax, but here's the live link: http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&...2&encType=1 Edited January 28, 2008 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KinkaidAlum Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 If I remember correctly, this was Papa Farb's son who purchased this land. He plans on building an upscale apartment community with a garage across the way attached via skyridge. The project was dubbed CitiPlace when it was first announced.If my memory is correct, you can see some of the townhome communities he's developed here, www.farbhomes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston-development Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) theres a thread or two about this project in the midtown forums.for clarification, its harold farbs grandson.long story short:it will be built on 3 parcels, parking garage will be wrapped by the main building, pool on top overlooking downtown (while hopefully somewhat hiding the phone tower) , and rents are projected to be about $1.50 psf.edited to add midtown forum links here and here (gave details in post #23) Edited January 29, 2008 by houston-development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Thanks, HD. Both links are the same though.Combine threads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 metamorphose and purge?It just doesn't "Sing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston-development Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Both links are the same though. i fixed them.. sorry, coffee hasnt kicked in yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Two of the topics merged. The other was about Webster/Brazos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydrama Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 The construction you see is a Midtown TIRZ project...updating utilities/water/streets/etc. They currently have Helena and Baldine ripped up. From what I know about the Farb project, they are eventually planning the midrisde apartments mentioned above. They were unable to negotiate out of the cell tower lease, therefore the building will "surround" the tower. I've also heard this project is delayed behind higher margin projects they have planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Man, I wonder how long that tower lease is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALaw Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Man, I wonder how long that tower lease is.Primary term of five years, with five options to renew for additional 5-year terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston-development Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 From what I know about the Farb project, they are eventually planning the midrisde apartments mentioned above. They were unable to negotiate out of the cell tower lease, therefore the building will "surround" the tower. I've also heard this project is delayed behind higher margin projects they have planned.um....he is not doing a midrise, its a 4-story project.the cell phone tower will be enclosed by the 6 level parking garage, which will be wrapped by the main building. the top will be seen but hes designed it so focus will be diverted elsewhere. he gave up trying to negotiate several months ago.it was delayed due to the architects, not because of "higher margin projects". he has a couple of townhome projects and that margin is ABSOLUTELY nothing compared to this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rci2145 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Anybody know when they will actually start construction? Estimated completion date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTexas Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 There seems to be some action in the past week. A large ground billboard, painted black now, has gone up. I imagine they will advertise the new mid rise if that is still happening. Today, they've been putting up a fence around the two parcels of land next to each other. Anybody have any new information on whether the mid rise is still the plan for this property? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston-development Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 i think that billboard is the same one he had up before (for information, please call..) they knocked down the fence.hes planning on breaking ground in the next 60-days and allegedly has financing.and its not a midrise, its 4-story wrapped around a parking garage with 2 out-parcels that will be connected via sky bridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 i think that billboard is the same one he had up before (for information, please call..) they knocked down the fence.hes planning on breaking ground in the next 60-days and allegedly has financing.and its not a midrise, its 4-story wrapped around a parking garage with 2 out-parcels that will be connected via sky bridges.Definitions of what constitutes a "midrise" are hazy. You're correct that Farb is planning a four-story wrap, but in the spectrum of descriptors (low-rise, midrise, highrise, skyscraper), a lot of people--including professionals--consider this to also be a midrise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydrama Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Billboard pic attached...sorry for the low res. They've since addeded a covered chain link fence are the property. Given the placement of the billboard, I would imagine a rendering/advertisement for the complex. Looking forward to the ground breaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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