McNair Plaza: Mixed-Use At Post Oak And Richmond

[strickn 185]

I love the renderings, but if this is not Deyaar Post Oak, you should relocated Hicks Ventures 3100 Post Oak to it's own thread.

All right, but keep the web scoured for mentions of 3200 Post Oak then.

[Pumapayam 133]

If it's ok to post here for this, does anyone know why that "joke of a renovation across the st" (so true) with Luby's and Zadok is...well, just a joke of a renovation instead of something....better? Also, what is the story with the 24 hr fitness on post oak....anyone buying that so far?

Post on Joke Renovation across the street that I started. Yes, this shopping center belongs in Katy, not on Post Oak in the heart of Uptown.

Uptown 24 Hour Super Sport lease is up this January 2009. The option to renew was not granted, they plan on relocating. I don't have any idea where. But the Q/Super Sport building will be demolished.

Brucette's shoes is asking $400/ft for his land. No joke. He knows no one (please Deyaar, don't buy at this $) will pay that but is 'content' with holding it. He was going to do a deal and move to Zadok's site but couldn't command the same terms of lease that Zadok possesses so it was scrapped.

If Deyaar buys it, why not? It is nice to have foreign investor put money in American soil. We sure invest enough money overseas, let them share the wealth back.

Edited June 23, 2008 by Pumapayam

[JWW 12]

Post on Joke Renovation across the street that I started. Yes, this shopping center belongs in Katy, not on Post Oak in the heart of Uptown.

Uptown 24 Hour Super Sport lease is up this January 2009. The option to renew was not granted, they plan on relocating. I don't have any idea where. But the Q/Super Sport building will be demolished.

If Deyaar buys it, why not? It is nice to have foreign investor put money in American soil. We sure invest enough money overseas, let them share the wealth back.

Does anyone know who owns the land under 24 hr....and what's supposed to be going on there?

Regarding Deyaar, I'm not only fine with but welcome direct foreign investment. The benefits U.A.E. companies generally pay foreigners in their own countries tend to be great for the job market, as well. My point is that if they pay $400/ft with the cheap $ they have, it makes it very difficult to compete here. Look at the run-up on the price of the land of this Deyaar development - from 80something $/ft to $400/ft for post oak land in 9 months or less is NOTHING short of a mania...i don't really prefer that.

[editor 990]

I've split the posts about whether this project will ruin the Galleria skyline into its own thread here: Ruining the Galleria skyline?.

I've split the posts about the urbanization of the Galleria are into its own thread on Urbanizing the Galleria Area.

[The Great Hizzy! 18]

Praise the lord!

[citizen4rmptown 163]

so any updates on this........

[Trae 207]

It's only been a week.

[The Great Hizzy! 18]

[bcnet 1]

Does anyone know who owns the land under 24 hr....and what's supposed to be going on there?

It is owned by TIAA-CREF and they are planning to build another office tower for the Four Oaks Development. BTW, there is also an offer building planned on the site of Willie G's across the street.

[swtsig 2929]

It is owned by TIAA-CREF and they are planning to build another office tower for the Four Oaks Development. BTW, there is also an offer building planned on the site of Willie G's across the street.

i hear the willie g's deal is off.

Edited July 3, 2008 by swtsig

[dcdude 40]

I hear this project is definately moving forward but has been scaled down to 60 stories and Morris Architects is working the project.

Edited July 4, 2008 by dcdude

[livincinco 576]

I hear this project is definately moving forward but has been scaled down to 60 stories and Morris Architects is working the project.

Must be a direct result of the SAVE THE BEACON campaign.

[ricco67 448]

Must be a direct result of the SAVE THE BEACON campaign.

You know, I was having having a talk about this with a friend and he started laughing when I told him about the new building and says the following:

"Can you imagine being some poor putz working late at night and having to suddenly have to deal with your office lit up like the sun every 30 seconds or so?"

We both laughed so hard we cried.

[Jeebus 98]

You know, I was having having a talk about this with a friend and he started laughing when I told him about the new building and says the following:

"Can you imagine being some poor putz working late at night and having to suddenly have to deal with your office lit up like the sun every 30 seconds or so?"

We both laughed so hard we cried.

Could be worse I suppose. It could be a Kenny Roger's Roasters sign.

[King Owl 155]

If you notice the Transco beacon, it points up at an angle. It would probably take a 100+ story building to be in the path of that light, given that the Deyaar land is a little ways down Post Oak from Transco

[dmoneybangbang 1]

I hear this project is definately moving forward but has been scaled down to 60 stories and Morris Architects is working the project.

So about how high is 60 stories?

[dalparadise 4]

You know, I was having having a talk about this with a friend and he started laughing when I told him about the new building and says the following:

"Can you imagine being some poor putz working late at night and having to suddenly have to deal with your office lit up like the sun every 30 seconds or so?"

We both laughed so hard we cried.

Really? It doesn't seem all that funny.

[20thStDad 255]

Really? It doesn't seem all that funny.

I'm sure some chemical fun enhancers were involved...makes everything funnier.

[wxman 883]

Well Transco is 64 stories and 901'. So probably in the mid 800 footer range I'd imagine.

[MyEvilTwin 4]

If the beacon really was a problem for another tower going up, couldn't they just put something up that blocks the light as it moves in the direction of the other tower? After all, isn't that what they do with lighthouses as the light turns towards land?

[livincinco 576]

Well Transco is 64 stories and 901'. So probably in the mid 800 footer range I'd imagine.

A 60 story project is probably more realistic and still gives everyone plenty of reasons to get excited. Between this, Turnberry, BLVD Place, etc., that's a lot of cranes in Uptowns future!

[Trae 207]

You know, I was having having a talk about this with a friend and he started laughing when I told him about the new building and says the following:

"Can you imagine being some poor putz working late at night and having to suddenly have to deal with your office lit up like the sun every 30 seconds or so?"

We both laughed so hard we cried.

You must have a boring life if you think that's funny.

[HtownWxBoy 195]

If you notice the Transco beacon, it points up at an angle. It would probably take a 100+ story building to be in the path of that light, given that the Deyaar land is a little ways down Post Oak from Transco

Really? It always looked to me like it points fairly straight out... must be just a slight angle.

I think that if a building was built close enough and high enough that it was being hit by the rotating Williams Tower beacon, they would probably just turn the beacon off.... maybe put a beacon on the higher building.

[ricco67 448]

You must have a boring life if you think that's funny.

Well,as previously mentioned beer was involved and you had to imagine what it would have been like looking in.

[King Owl 155]

Really? It always looked to me like it points fairly straight out... must be just a slight angle.

I think that if a building was built close enough and high enough that it was being hit by the rotating Williams Tower beacon, they would probably just turn the beacon off.... maybe put a beacon on the higher building.

I can see the beacon from my roof-top deck, and it points up at a decent angle. I noticed it last night as I was watching the fireworks over uptown. Might even require more like 120 stories to be hit, given the fact that the Deyaar building would be along Richmond

[HtownWxBoy 195]

I can see the beacon from my roof-top deck, and it points up at a decent angle. I noticed it last night as I was watching the fireworks over uptown. Might even require more like 120 stories to be hit, given the fact that the Deyaar building would be along Richmond

Interesting... never really noticed that. I own a condo in the Med Center / Reliant Stadium area... my balcony (3rd floor) faced towards the Williams Tower (really good view) and I use to love just watching the beam streak across the sky at night when I lived there... especially during the winter when the air was dry and crisp.

[treblelino 47]

I hear this project is definately moving forward but has been scaled down to 60 stories and Morris Architects is working the project.

60 stories? I will believe it when I see it. I dont know why there is conversation about a building blocking the path of Transco's strobe light. Do you honestly think Houston will build something tall enough to block the path of the light.

[Pumapayam 133]

A 60 story project is probably more realistic and still gives everyone plenty of reasons to get excited. Between this, Turnberry, BLVD Place, etc., that's a lot of cranes in Uptowns future!

I bet it is lowered to 40-45 storys when the design is finalized.

Typical "Houston hype".

We never get anything substanstial anymore. *pouts*

[swtsig 2929]

I bet it is lowered to 40-45 storys when the design is finalized.

Typical "Houston hype".

We never get anything substanstial anymore. *pouts*

for the amount they threw down for that chunk of land i will be very surprised if it ends up that short... besides, everyone figured that the ritz - which was originally announced in the 60-story range - would end up closer to 35-40. instead, it's coming in (supposedly) at a lofty 53-stories.

[ENGcons 9]

small update

main tower 89 floors

secondary tower attached 52 floors

HBJ rendering is the current building

all subject to change of course

[lockmat 2291]

small update

main tower 89 floors

secondary tower attached 52 floors

HBJ rendering is the current building

all subject to change of course

lol

...really?

"attached" secondary tower?

[nate 241]

small update

main tower 89 floors

secondary tower attached 52 floors

HBJ rendering is the current building

all subject to change of course

Very cool.

I don't see anything recent on the HBJ site, so I assume that you are referring to the rendering in the February article?

http://cll.bizjournals.com/story_image/110451-400-0-1.jpg

[jgriff 738]

89 floors would be 1300ft + right?

[King Owl 155]

Surely the February HBJ rendering isn't what they plan on going with there. That rendering is Deyaar's Burlington at Business Bay project in Dubai. Would they just copy another project and plop it in Houston?

[lockmat 2291]

Surely the February HBJ rendering isn't what they plan on going with there. That rendering is Deyaar's Burlington at Business Bay project in Dubai. Would they just copy another project and plop it in Houston?

ahh, the rendering explains my "attached" question.

also, the rendering shows what looks to be a building of about 40 floors. If correct, this would be twice that? wow. And if it is just a copy of the dubai one, the only people who will notice are architects and maybe business travelers who frequent both cities. But I guess that would be a bit dissapointing.

Burlington at Business Bay project in Dubai: http://www.deyaar.ae/html/project.aspx?pid=10

Edited August 1, 2008 by lockmat

[Trae 207]

small update

main tower 89 floors

secondary tower attached 52 floors

HBJ rendering is the current building

all subject to change of course

Damn.

[lockmat 2291]

Is the galleria under any regulation for building height like downtown is? It in the way of any flight patterns?

[wxman 883]

WOW! Impressive! Damn, one floor shy of 90! That's awesome. Very cool indeed.

[roadrunner 44]

Sounds great, but I think I'll hold off my excitement until there is some sort of official announcement.

[Mister X 224]

small update

main tower 89 floors

secondary tower attached 52 floors

HBJ rendering is the current building

all subject to change of course

Engons,

The 'HBJ rendering is the current building' part is the part that is confusing me. Is the rendering you speak of different than this photo? http://cll.bizjournals.com/story_image/110451-400-0-1.jpg or do you mean that the rendering here is just a smaller version of what they are planning to build in uptown? The photo is not of any building in the 90 floor range at all, unless each floor in that rendering has a loft and is really 2 floors - which sounds a little weird.

Anyway, thanks for the tease.

Edited August 1, 2008 by Mister X

[ENGcons 9]

You guys place too much stock in those renderings. They are only to show the overall concept of the design, many times they are not specific as to how many floors the building has. The floor count on any major building can change from week to week depending on costs. you most likely won't get an accurate floor count from any rendering.

[BigSky 8]

I seriously doubt this building will get built at that height. 120 floors total between two buildings in the Galleria area. The place cannot support the level of traffic nor the pedestrian traffic. If there isn't any regulations in place there should be, this building doesn't make any sense outside of downtown.

Another fallic symbol to feed the ego of some developer.

[TheNiche 945]

I seriously doubt this building will get built at that height. 120 floors total between two buildings in the Galleria area. The place cannot support the level of traffic nor the pedestrian traffic. If there isn't any regulations in place there should be, this building doesn't make any sense outside of downtown.

Another fallic symbol to feed the ego of some developer.

The City and METRO are focusing their efforts (and some serious money) on upgrading Post Oak Blvd. This is to accomodate the LRT, but also to make it easier for pedestrians to reach the stations and to minimize the adverse impacts on traffic congestion. This would actually be the perfect time to initiate some big deals in Uptown...they wouldn't even be occupied until all the improvements are made.

[Montrose1100 3720]

89 instead of 80? Yeehaw!!!

[Pumapayam 133]

89 instead of 80? Yeehaw!!!

Welcome back Montrose1100, pretty exciting stuff!

A big brother for the Williams Tower.

[maceo9903 1]

Heading North on 610 is already an awesome sight. Especially once you go up over the bridge that crosses 59. Can you imagine the sight if this is a go and in the coming years of seeing Transco (will never be able to call it Williams), Deyaar, and the Ritz of Blvd Place?!?

Edited August 7, 2008 by maceo9903

[swtsig 2929]

Heading North on 610 is already an awesome sight. Especially once you go up over the bridge that crosses 59. Can you imagine the sight if this is a go and in the coming years of seeing Transco (will never be able to call it Williams), Deyaar, and the Ritz of Blvd Place?!?

and the W just across the freeway

[Pumapayam 133]

and the W just across the freeway

Are you refering to Westcreek?

[swtsig 2929]

Are you refering to Westcreek?

soon to be River Oaks Shopping District.

[kennyc05 301]

out of towners will be confusing it for downtown